CW3: Jurong East Int - Larkin/Kota Raya II Ter
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From all my trips so far, they do head count check before moving off @ both Jurong East & Tuas. The transfer to 666 (for those going North) takes place @ Gelang Patah terminal instead.Originally posted by 105090:does CW3 waits for ppl at Tuas to reboard?
From J East > Tuas (alight) > tuas (re-board same bus?) > TG Kupang (alight) > TG Kupang (reboard same bus?) OR 666. > city -
From my travels, Jurong East to Gelang Patah fairly consistent @ 40 mins.Originally posted by hannwei:I do not board CW3 very often these days, but its frequency should still be about one bus every thirty minutes or so. I have never boarded the first bus, but I heard the first bus to Jurong East departs from Gelang Patah at around 0600 or 0610. So, the first CW3 and 666 from the town should reach Gelang Patah around 0545 till 0610. It usually takes about 50 to 70 minutes to get from Gelang Patah to Jurong East Interchange.
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Hi hseochin,Originally posted by hseochin:From my travels, Jurong East to Gelang Patah fairly consistent @ 40 mins.
How long does it take you to travel from Gelang Patah to Jurong East each morning? And when do you board the bus at Gelang Patah?
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CW3 has been affected badly by the long jams on 2nd Link.
Anyway went I went in, saw 1 with just 3 passengers near Tg Kupang R&R Towards Tuas. 3 passengers is not even making $$ if taken the fact that the toll at SG side is alreadty $9!
Saturday morning (To JB) and Sunday evening (To SG), bus lanes were clogged terribly... Sunday came back kena jammed for 1 hr, yet no CW3 buses was in sight -
There are a lot of people going to JB to enjoy their vacations, especially on School holidays. I predicted that CW3 & 666 was disrupted due to heavy traffic along 2nd Link as CW3 & 666 travels via 2nd Link.Originally posted by sbst275:CW3 has been affected badly by the long jams on 2nd Link.
Anyway went I went in, saw 1 with just 3 passengers near Tg Kupang R&R Towards Tuas. 3 passengers is not even making $$ if taken the fact that the toll at SG side is alreadty $9!
Saturday morning (To JB) and Sunday evening (To SG), bus lanes were clogged terribly... Sunday came back kena jammed for 1 hr, yet no CW3 buses was in sight -
Actually it was caused by the influx of tourist or express busesOriginally posted by Apex-LW'21:There are a lot of people going to JB to enjoy their vacations, especially on School holidays. I predicted that CW3 & 666 was disrupted due to heavy traffic along 2nd Link as CW3 & 666 travels via 2nd Link. -
666 enter singapore meh?Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:There are a lot of people going to JB to enjoy their vacations, especially on School holidays. I predicted that CW3 & 666 was disrupted due to heavy traffic along 2nd Link as CW3 & 666 travels via 2nd Link. -
People will transfer 666 from KSAB to Larkin, might be affected by the jam.Originally posted by sinicker:666 enter singapore meh? -
Actually, 2nd Link is no longer a good choice to use for buses during holidays, as many from KL/ Malacca uses 2nd Link. Somemore not worth it if it is jammed as of the much higher toll
Woodlands at least now are usually the Fty buses. Even no matter how jammed, cars can still move -
More people prefer driving cars then travelling on buses via Woodlands & Tuas Chkpts.Originally posted by sbst275:Actually, 2nd Link is no longer a good choice to use for buses during holidays, as many from KL/ Malacca uses 2nd Link. Somemore not worth it if it is jammed as of the much higher toll
Woodlands at least now are usually the Fty buses. Even no matter how jammed, cars can still move -
My point is thereOriginally posted by Apex-LW'21:More people prefer driving cars then travelling on buses via Woodlands & Tuas Chkpts.
If you were to notice, during holidays, Tuas is more prone to car jams than Woodlands
Even if it is not, WDL has more lanes opened -
Does anyone realise that the jams are ALMOST ALWAYS at the S'pore side? Could the S'porean immigration authority be deliberately slowing down the processing of passports to cause a traffic jam in an attempt to discourage S'poreans from travelling to M'sia? You know, S'poreans are always so efficient, how could it be that the jam occurs at the S'pore gateway almost every time?
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It's NOT processing of passports, there are now stringent security checks in Singapore, thr ICA officers trained to look out for any items like cigarettes to be smuggled to Singapore or any suspicious character. Remember that security in Singapore is a great concern.Originally posted by surfbabe:Does anyone realise that the jams are ALMOST ALWAYS at the S'pore side? Could the S'porean immigration authority be deliberately slowing down the processing of passports to cause a traffic jam in an attempt to discourage S'poreans from travelling to M'sia? You know, S'poreans are always so efficient, how could it be that the jam occurs at the S'pore gateway almost every time? -
Thanks for praising the ICA.. but then how do you explain when its the ex-Singapore side which is having ridiculous jams?Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:It's NOT processing of passports, there are now stringent security checks in Singapore, thr ICA officers trained to look out for any items like cigarettes to be smuggled to Singapore or any suspicious character. Remember that security in Singapore is a great concern.
or that when there is 50+ counters built, only 10 is operating?
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See the number of closed lanes vs opened lanesOriginally posted by surfbabe:Does anyone realise that the jams are ALMOST ALWAYS at the S'pore side? Could the S'porean immigration authority be deliberately slowing down the processing of passports to cause a traffic jam in an attempt to discourage S'poreans from travelling to M'sia? You know, S'poreans are always so efficient, how could it be that the jam occurs at the S'pore gateway almost every time? -
Tuas has abt 40 counters, yet even it is crazily jammed, only 20 are openOriginally posted by Apex-LW'21:It's NOT processing of passports, there are now stringent security checks in Singapore, thr ICA officers trained to look out for any items like cigarettes to be smuggled to Singapore or any suspicious character. Remember that security in Singapore is a great concern.
Woodlands, abt 60 counters, at least 40 are opened
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For Malaysia, I think that there is no stringent checks first, they won't check every vehicles that leaves the country.Originally posted by 105090:Thanks for praising the ICA.. but then how do you explain when its the ex-Singapore side which is having ridiculous jams?
or that when there is 50+ counters built, only 10 is operating?
As for the 50+ counters, I believe that the immigration officers (not ICA) are offline or very busy. (I mean offline is that the immigration officers are not working now or taking a leave/vacation break.)
Even the cars are also using the M'cycle lane at Woodlands Chkpt, some vehicles trying to cut through in between the lanes.Originally posted by sbst275:Tuas has abt 40 counters, yet even it is crazily jammed, only 20 are open
Woodlands, abt 60 counters, at least 40 are opened
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Obviously you have not heard what bear saidOriginally posted by Apex-LW'21:For Malaysia, I think that there is no stringent checks first, they won't check every vehicles.
As for the 50+ counters, I believe that the immigration officers (not ICA) are offline or very busy. (I mean offline is that the immigration officers not working or taking a leave) -
Woodlands by right the left lane (AM) and viaduct (PM) is for motorbikesOriginally posted by Apex-LW'21:Even the cars are also using the M'cycle lane at Woodlands Chkpt, some vehicles trying to cut through in between the lanes.
Bus lane is on the right lane except CW buses that dun know where is the most right lane, filter in and out of lanes.. Anyway, never be behind a CW bus at Checkpoint or Causeway -
From my observations, the delays @ the Causeway or Tuas @ the Singapore are due 50 % to bad road design leading to the complex (especially @ the Causeway !) other 50 % due to plain Singaporean 'deleberate' inefficientcy cleverly disguised / excused on 'security' grounds !!!!
My belief as why they appear be deliberately slowing everything down
(as much as they can) is due to the 'discomfort' caused to some people in Singapore of seemingly too many Singaporeans going frequently over to Johore & spending too much S$ there !! Therefore the unavoidable speculation then is that they try to make it as unattractive as possible for people here to convinently get there & back !!!!!!
Overall i find the Malaysian approach to checking on people/vehicles the more practical way which offers a superior trade-off between security concerns & human & vehicular traffic flow efficiencies ! The Malaysian side may appear 'sleeping' half the time but in actuality i've ever seen them knowing 'when' to check & when to pass basing on prior experiences of human psychology upon having seen so many thousands (many familar even !) of faces crossing daily. When they indeed do check it tends to be quite a 'good hit' ! Such 'victims' were most obviously surprised as i saw the look on their faces ! Therefore i observe that although on the surface the Malaysian side appears less competent or more lax etc., it's highly not advisable to 'take advantage' of that. Indeed they seem to know the human psychological aspects much better than what many 'stuck-up' Singaporeans seem to think that they're bodoh inside & try to take advantage of that !
The Singapore side i prefer to believe likes to put up plenty of 'show' for people to see, even from miles away while the Malaysian side tends to be more 'discrete' so people think they're 'sloppy' compared to the Simgapore side. But in ultimate reality i have to conclude that afterall don't be too surprised that the 'nett effect' of the different approaches taken need NOT yield any significantly different outcomes !Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:It's NOT processing of passports, there are now stringent security checks in Singapore, thr ICA officers trained to look out for any items like cigarettes to be smuggled to Singapore or any suspicious character. Remember that security in Singapore is a great concern. -
i do agree fully on this part. also, when singaporeans goes to MY to spend $$, they are spending the money overseas, and not within SG, in other words, diverting the money elsewhere and depriving local's business. sad.Originally posted by hseochin:My belief as why they appear be deliberately slowing everything down
(as much as they can) is due to the 'discomfort' caused to some people in Singapore of seemingly too many Singaporeans going frequently over to Johore & spending too much S$ there !! Therefore the unavoidable speculation then is that they try to make it as unattractive as possible for people here to convinently get there & back !!!!!! -
You have not heard what bear saidOriginally posted by 105090:i do agree fully on this part. also, when singaporeans goes to MY to spend $$, they are spending the money overseas, and not within SG, in other words, diverting the money elsewhere and depriving local's business. sad.
You dun know how Malaysian immigrantion officers work at KTM JB stn...
Actually, 2nd Link there the Customs officers zhuo buo one.. Just sit there do nothing... Didn't bother to check
Anyway dun understand why Singaporeans still go JB hypermart to shop... Many buy imported stuff which is cheaper to buy in SG -
Since the hypermarkets are far from the town center, I suppose most visitors from Singapore drive. However, there do not seem to be many Singapore-registered cars, both in Giant Tampoi and Carrefour Plentong (?) on weekends.Originally posted by sbst275:Anyway dun understand why Singaporeans still go JB hypermart to shop... Many buy imported stuff which is cheaper to buy in SG
As for price difference, I do notice ADSL modems and computer DDR RAMs are at least about twenty percent to fifty percent cheaper in Johor Baru. -
People realised it is no where cheaperOriginally posted by hannwei:Since the hypermarkets are far from the town center, I suppose most visitors from Singapore drive. However, there do not seem to be many Singapore-registered cars, both in Giant Tampoi and Carrefour Plentong (?) on weekends.
As for price difference, I do notice ADSL modems and computer DDR RAMs are at least about twenty percent to fifty percent cheaper in Johor Baru.
ADSL? We here are already talking abt routers already -
things in JB may not be cheaper after considering the time and hassle. But hey! Singaporeans, sundays and PH, and lopng weekends always like to go to JB Shopping + food. To many,. sundays are boring, same for chinese new year. CNY ppl go to Bangkok, HK etc etc. Sundays to JB.
so why go JB to shop? as said, to kill time, second is the thinkn ing that JB goods are dirt cheap. not anymore.