CW3: Jurong East Int - Larkin/Kota Raya II Ter
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if u are in some bus travelling to JB via Second Link be sure to look out for car zooming past u on their top speed.....
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Malaysians open many counters, so you can shop for more time.Originally posted by surfbabe:If so, then why wasn't there a jam at the M'sian side of 2nd link? Everyone breezed through the M'sian checkpoint but got stuck at the S'porean side!!!
S'pore side open fewer counters, so you have to stall for less time to shop. -
If you are departing MY, they are only bothered to collect the white card and stamp your passport... Not abt recording your leaveOriginally posted by Donavan:Malaysians open many counters, so you can shop for more time.
S'pore side open fewer counters, so you have to stall for less time to shop. -
i saw 2 CW3 buses at Jurong East, and another one just arrived, so makes it 3. Then means each driver can have up to 90 minutes rest?
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How is the frequency of the CW3 buses now on weekdays? I may be taking this bus regularly on weekday mornings and weekday evenings from Gelang Patah to Jurong East.
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still the same at 30 minutes. starts 6.40am, 7.10am and so on....Originally posted by surfbabe:How is the frequency of the CW3 buses now on weekdays? I may be taking this bus regularly on weekday mornings and weekday evenings from Gelang Patah to Jurong East. -
So when does the 6.40am bus reach Jurong East bus interchange? At about 7:40am?Originally posted by 105090:still the same at 30 minutes. starts 6.40am, 7.10am and so on.... -
Back from Johor yesterday... Was stucked as JB Checkpoint for 70 mins bef a fast breeze thru WDL
For buses, 8 SBS packed buses were recorded during this 70 mins, 2 packed SJE and 2 empty SMRT 950 (1 in fact have no passengers at all!) were recorded. There was no CW1 or CW2 trip seen during this 70 mins
In fact saw 1 coach style CW2 bus brokedown at Jln Tun Abdul Razak -
It was because of the CNY period, they do have relatives staying in JB.Originally posted by sbst275:Back from Johor yesterday... Was stucked as JB Checkpoint for 70 mins bef a fast breeze thru WDL
For buses, 8 SBS packed buses were recorded during this 70 mins, 2 packed SJE and 2 empty SMRT 950 (1 in fact have no passengers at all!) were recorded. There was no CW1 or CW2 trip seen during this 70 mins -
But when I reached the Woodlands side, there was no need to queue at all!Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:It was because of the CNY period, they do have relatives staying in JB. -
That 950 bus that arrived JB Chkpt empty, it ended up leaving packed aft 10 mins... It caused massive longer queue for passengers waiting for the next 170. They poached SBS passengers to get better loading
I say too many cross bordor bus svs is bad, ends up destructive compeition, and wasting road resources and jamming the roads
Anyway, I wonder how can the best earning season yet no CW buses are in sight -
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u mean, if i reach WDL ckpt on 170, i must die die continue taking 160/170 to JB ckpt?
cant Transitlink make all ez-link card users have freedom to take 160/170/950 for the less-than-1km causeway? -
JB Checkpoint by right is not a bus stop... It is a place where you just complete the immigration clearance... So by right no changing of bus operator buses is allowedOriginally posted by sinicker:u mean, if i reach WDL ckpt on 170, i must die die continue taking 160/170 to JB ckpt?
cant Transitlink make all ez-link card users have freedom to take 160/170/950 for the less-than-1km causeway?
Of course HI was the one that started this at both sides, now only seen at JB side cos no one enforcing it -
Take a look at Sv 160/ 170B and 950's fare stageOriginally posted by sinicker:cant Transitlink make all ez-link card users have freedom to take 160/170/950 for the less-than-1km causeway?
SBS charges 1 fare stage bet Kota Raya and Woodlands Checkpoint
SMRT charges 3 fare stages -
crap. brings me to the point when SMRT had fare stages going frm 14 to 14.1, then to 15 while SBST, 14, 14.5, 15. and someone complained why he kena 4.9 fare stages if take SMRT and 4.5 for SBST when it's the same number of stops.Originally posted by sbst275:Take a look at Sv 160/ 170B and 950's fare stage
SBS charges 1 fare stage bet Kota Raya and Woodlands Checkpoint
SMRT charges 3 fare stages
den the whole TL online guide was revamped.
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SMRT's 0.1 way was from Tibs era.. Just leave it at 0.0 or 0.5... EasierOriginally posted by sinicker:crap. brings me to the point when SMRT had fare stages going frm 14 to 14.1, then to 15 while SBST, 14, 14.5, 15. and someone complained why he kena 4.9 fare stages if take SMRT and 4.5 for SBST when it's the same number of stops.
den the whole TL online guide was revamped.
but true ah.. 950's ridership quite bad ah?
950 ridership not that good cos goes Woodlands not Kranji... 1st bus only have 2 passengers, 2nd time kosong! Wheras all 170 trip fully loaded -
ic. so ppl go to Kranji to take train southwards coz' the train would be less packed i assume?
sorry ah.. i a bit kuku. nvr take 160/170/950 across the causeway before. and my last time on SJE was in 1997. -
If more buses is at Kranji, ppl prefer to go thereOriginally posted by sinicker:ic. so ppl go to Kranji to take train southwards coz' the train would be less packed i assume?
sorry ah.. i a bit kuku. nvr take 160/170/950 across the causeway before. and my last time on SJE was in 1997.
Supply and demand theory
950 and CW1 usually wait till next bus arrive Checkpoint bef they leave unlike SBS hoping to get higher average ridership
Anyway, CW2 and SJE should stop allowing standee as at SG side, no standing is allowed... If I take 60 ppl from Larkin, end up there will be backflow at JB Checkpoint -
170 farestage is 4.5 from Kota Raya because Kota Raya is to compensate for lost bus stop at Wisma LKN/ KOMTAR
whereas Kranji to JN is still 65cents, due to historical reasons, and competition reasons -
Not to forget the currency rate in these 20 years diffOriginally posted by 105090:170 farestage is 4.5 from Kota Raya because Kota Raya is to compensate for lost bus stop at Wisma LKN/ KOMTAR
whereas Kranji to JN is still 65cents, due to historical reasons, and competition reasons -
No need. From my many trips across the Causeway i've ever used the card on 160/170 then transfered to 950 & vice-versa & it works i.e. transfer indicated.
My conclusion is that as long as they use the same system, irrespective of operator the transfers would be processed as normal as if you used back the same operator to complete the trip.
Also noteworthy is that of late even SJE started selling tickets just before passengers board @ the Causeway, making it more convinent for those who didn't buy them from the travel agents @ City Square or Merlin Tower or Larkin.
It's only a matter of course that they do that if they don't want to lose out too much to the other 2 operators !!
On the Singapore side @ Woodlands complex noteworthy too is the fare prominently indicated on the official operator's metal signage for those wanting to take CW1 from there to Kranji. Currency used of course then in S$.
From personal observations, it's also routine practice for many people to board from there only buying tickets onboard as they head towards Kranji or Ban San etc. whether on 160, 170, 950, CW etc. In SJE's case, being the only operator without onboard ticketing machines, people buy the tickets from the SJE ticket inspector instead. I suppose they need to innovate a bit to survive !Originally posted by sinicker:u mean, if i reach WDL ckpt on 170, i must die die continue taking 160/170 to JB ckpt?
cant Transitlink make all ez-link card users have freedom to take 160/170/950 for the less-than-1km causeway? -
You guys are posting your messages in the wrong thread, starting from sbst275's message on 1 Feb 2006. This thread is for discussion on CW3 bus that runs thru the Second Link Tuas/Tanjung Kupang checkpoint, not Johor Bahru buses which runs thru the Woodlands/JB checkpoint.
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sorry. it was all my fault.
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It is then a loopholeOriginally posted by hseochin:No need. From my many trips across the Causeway i've ever used the card on 160/170 then transfered to 950 & vice-versa & it works i.e. transfer indicated.
My conclusion is that as long as they use the same system, irrespective of operator the transfers would be processed as normal as if you used back the same operator to complete the trip.
Also noteworthy is that of late even SJE started selling tickets just before passengers board @ the Causeway, making it more convinent for those who didn't buy them from the travel agents @ City Square or Merlin Tower or Larkin.
It's only a matter of course that they do that if they don't want to lose out too much to the other 2 operators !!
On the Singapore side @ Woodlands complex noteworthy too is the fare prominently indicated on the official operator's metal signage for those wanting to take CW1 from there to Kranji. Currency used of course then in S$.
From personal observations, it's also routine practice for many people to board from there only buying tickets onboard as they head towards Kranji or Ban San etc. whether on 160, 170, 950, CW etc. In SJE's case, being the only operator without onboard ticketing machines, people buy the tickets from the SJE ticket inspector instead. I suppose they need to innovate a bit to survive !
Cos the Checkpoint is an neutral ground, it is not even a bus stop. Reason is simple, if selling of tickets or passengers are allowed to crisscross operators at the Checkpoint when it is not supposed to by law, ends up the place there is no proper control. Worst now is that HI, SJE, SMRT and SBS have to share 2 berths now as due to the bridge works