New Fast Forward Services 10e and 30e from Mon, 19th Sept
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10e Bedok Rd (Man Fatt Lam Tp) - Shenton Way
Morning peak: 7.45am - 8.15am
Evening peak: 6.15pm - 6.45pm
Morning Peak:
>> Calls at all stops between Bedok Rd (Upp Changi Rd East) & Mountbatten Rd (Tanjong Katong Rd)
>> Express between Tanjong Katong Rd and One Raffles Link via Mountbatten Rd and Nicoll Highway
>> Does not call at bus stop outside Suntec City Mall
>> Calls at all stops between Nicoll Highway (One Raffles Link) & Shenton Way (Opp Temasek Towers)
Evening Peak:
>> Calls at all stops between Anson Rd (Apex Tower) & Nicoll Highway (Opp Suntec City Mall) except the stop along Esplanade Dr
>> Express between Suntec City and Tanjong Katong Rd via Nicoll Highway and Mountbatten Rd
>> Calls at all stops between Mountbatten Rd (Tanjong Katong Rd) & Bedok Rd (Upp Changi Rd East)
30e Bedok Int - Pasir Panjang Rd (Science Park II)
Morning peak: 7am - 8am
Evening peak: 5.30pm - 6.30pm
>> Calls at the 2 stops along New Upp Changi Rd
>> Skips all of Changi Rd except bus stop outside GE Life Centre (Eunos Stn)
>> Express via Tanjong Katong Rd
>> Calls at all stops between Dunman Rd and Fort Rd except the stop along Mountbatten Rd outside Blk 2
>> Express along ECP, Keppel Viaduct and Keppel Rd
>> Calls only at Sentosa Gateway, HarbourFront Centre, PSA Building, Pasir Panjang Centre, Haw Par Villa & Science Park II.
ur discussions here, please.
for discussion of fast forward service 89e, pls proceed to the other thread. -
Good initiatives. Envy is the word for me cos i stay in Bt Panjang. can only dream that SMRT Buses also have it on 960 and 190.Originally posted by ^tamago^:10e: Bedok Rd (Man Fatt Lam Tp) - Shenton Way
30e: Bedok Int - Pasir Panjang Rd (Science Park II)
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hey tamago, perhaps you can merge the two threads together to centrify the discussion on the 3 new FFW services?
Noticed that SBST are introducing 3 services at one go nowadays:
CityBuzz: C1, C2, C3
Chinatown Direct: CT8, CT18, CT28
FFW: 10e, 30e, 89e -
You forgot trunk services Sv. 34, Sv. 57 and Sv. 58 on the same day.
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i can't la. cos i spotted 89e notice and started a topic, then someone else alerted me to 10e and 30e as well, so 10e and 30e came later.Originally posted by kuekj:hey tamago, perhaps you can merge the two threads together to centrify the discussion on the 3 new FFW services?
Noticed that SBST are introducing 3 services at one go nowadays:
CityBuzz: C1, C2, C3
Chinatown Direct: CT8, CT18, CT28
FFW: 10e, 30e, 89e -
I don't find it a good initiative. SBSTransit seems to be wasting their resources on services which may not be profitable to them.Originally posted by phillipC:Good initiatives. Envy is the word for me cos i stay in Bt Panjang. can only dream that SMRT Buses also have it on 960 and 190.
I personally have not seen the fast forward services in operations, but look at CityBuzz. Even if they are there for revenue from ads, it just a waste of resources by deploying VSO on a route that has no passengers 90% of the time.
Look at other services, which needs DD, but SBST is still running SD on the service, and sometimes, you just see the opposite direction gets so many DD, while you are jam packed inside a SD that you have to squeeze into. Makes my blood boils.
Just my own POV, and for your info, I also stay in a SMRT controlled area, and I am still ok with the service they are providing (so far). -
I suggestion that Sv 10e will be extended from Tampines Int to Pasir Panjang Rd.I hope these people who work at Pasir Panjang Rd cos it is very convient of travel very faster time so those people live in Marine Parade and East Coast Rd..What do u suggestion? Thanks..
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that is due to the fact that there are better options out to these areas from Tampines.Originally posted by 9800:I suggestion that Sv 10e will be extended from Tampines Int to Pasir Panjang Rd.I hope these people who work at Pasir Panjang Rd cos it is very convient of travel very faster time so those people live in Marine Parade and East Coast Rd..What do u suggestion? Thanks..
9800
to pasir panjang, take MRT then Svc 51 from Queenstown MRT.
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By looking at Just on CityBuzz wont tll you anything.. Just take look oin Special Services like CT 8 and 174e for example.. they do have demand for them. Reason being is that 1st, they wan to get to their destination Fast.. Secondly, it makes no difference by taking a Train >> Feeder bus and a Direct Special Services like 502, CT 8, FF 174e..Originally posted by demag_ac:I don't find it a good initiative. SBSTransit seems to be wasting their resources on services which may not be profitable to them.
I personally have not seen the fast forward services in operations, but look at CityBuzz. Even if they are there for revenue from ads, it just a waste of resources by deploying VSO on a route that has no passengers 90% of the time.
Look at other services, which needs DD, but SBST is still running SD on the service, and sometimes, you just see the opposite direction gets so many DD, while you are jam packed inside a SD that you have to squeeze into. Makes my blood boils.
Just my own POV, and for your info, I also stay in a SMRT controlled area, and I am still ok with the service they are providing (so far). -
well i dun tink FFW will end up like citybuzz....From 2 current svc, 174e and 97e, so far so good...i hear not much complains....Originally posted by demag_ac:I don't find it a good initiative. SBSTransit seems to be wasting their resources on services which may not be profitable to them.
I personally have not seen the fast forward services in operations, but look at CityBuzz. Even if they are there for revenue from ads, it just a waste of resources by deploying VSO on a route that has no passengers 90% of the time.
Look at other services, which needs DD, but SBST is still running SD on the service, and sometimes, you just see the opposite direction gets so many DD, while you are jam packed inside a SD that you have to squeeze into. Makes my blood boils.
Just my own POV, and for your info, I also stay in a SMRT controlled area, and I am still ok with the service they are providing (so far). -
Originally posted by ^tamago^:
cool! i can take them halfway to go to skool on on the last 3 days of the workign week
[b]10e Bedok Rd (Man Fatt Lam Tp) - Shenton Way
Morning peak: 7.45am - 8.15am
Evening peak: 6.15pm - 6.45pm
Service corridors:
>> Calls at all stops between Bedok Rd (Upp Changi Rd East) & East Coast Rd (Tanjong Katong Rd)
>> Express between Tanjong Katong Rd and One Raffles Link via Tg Katong Rd, ECP, Rochor Rd and Beach Rd.
>> Does not call at bus stop outside Suntec City Mall
>> Calls at all stops between Nicoll Highway (One Raffles Link) & Shenton Way (Opp Temasek Towers)
>> Calls at all stops between Anson Rd (Anson Towers) & Nicoll Highway (Opp Suntec City Mall)
>> Express between Opp Suntec City and Tanjong Katong Rd via Middle Rd, Beach Rd, Ophir Rd, ECP and Tg Katong Rd.
>> Calls at all stops between East Coast Rd (Tanjog Katong Rd) & Bedok Rd (Upp Changi Rd East)
10e Bedok Int - Pasir Panjang Rd (Science Park II)
Morning peak: 7am - 8am
Evening peak: 5.30pm - 6.30pm
>> Calls at the 2 stops along Upp Changi Rd East
>> Skips all of Changi Rd except bus stop outside GE Life Centre (Eunos Stn)
>> Express via either Joo Chiat Rd or Tg Katong Rd
>> Calls at all stops between Old Airport Rd and Fort Rd
>> Express along ECP, Keppel Viaduct and Keppel Rd
>> Calls only at Prima Tower, HarbourFront Centre, PSA Building, Pasir Panjang Centre, Haw Par Villa & Science Park II.
ur discussions here, please.
for discussion of fast forward service 89e, pls proceed to the other thread.[/b]
now if only they would extend the 30e to heng mui keng tarrace......... -
hmm forgot to ask whether the fees will be exorbitant and student unfriendly?
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express fares apply from 1st october, which is about $0.51 to $0.84 more one-way than the usual trunk fare (for more than 8km). this fare premium increases with distance travelled. for now till 30th sept, normal trunk fares will do.Originally posted by hisoka:hmm forgot to ask whether the fees will be exorbitant and student unfriendly?
it is not student-friendly as concession passes do not apply on these express services. -
Originally posted by ^tamago^:express fares apply from 1st october, which is about $0.51 to $0.84 more one-way than the usual trunk fare (for more than 8km). this fare premium increases with distance travelled. for now till 30th sept, normal trunk fares will do.
it is not student-friendly as concession passes do not apply on these express services.
bad services 
anyway i can always hope that less pple take the normal buses then oh yeah will they take this as an excuse to decrease the number of normal buses of the number? -
they might reduce one or two buses but it wun affect too much since most of the buses used in such FFw services will be the current peak-hour-only service 30 buses (known as S shift) that run alongside the full day buses.Originally posted by hisoka: bad services
anyway i can always hope that less pple take the normal buses then oh yeah will they take this as an excuse to decrease the number of normal buses of the number? -
thx for the fast and for answeringOriginally posted by ^tamago^:they might reduce one or two buses but it wun affect too much since most of the buses used in such FFw services will be the current peak-hour-only service 30 buses (known as S shift) that run alongside the full day buses.
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
I think this should be 30e, instead of 10e.
10e Bedok Int - Pasir Panjang Rd (Science Park II)
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
Isn't ECP famous for its peak hour jam between fort rd and rochor rd? How can then it be express?
[b]10e Bedok Rd (Man Fatt Lam Tp) - Shenton Way
Morning peak: 7.45am - 8.15am
Evening peak: 6.15pm - 6.45pm
Service corridors:
>> Express between Tanjong Katong Rd and One Raffles Link via Tg Katong Rd, ECP, Rochor Rd and Beach Rd.
>> Express between Opp Suntec City and Tanjong Katong Rd via Middle Rd, Beach Rd, Ophir Rd, ECP and Tg Katong Rd. -
10e is calling at about 24 stops between east coast and mountbatten.. sure going to waste a lot of time getting to nicoll highway.. (like sv502 SKG to CTE long long route)
for 30e, maybe PSA or NUS ppl may benefit -
It is unlikely that NUS people are going to take 30E as it terminates at Science Park instead of Heng Mui Keng Terrace, which is a good 3 bus stops difference. Furthermore, concession fares don't apply to FFw services, which makes it even more unlikely.Originally posted by 105090:for 30e, maybe PSA or NUS ppl may benefit -
Wow SBST is really cool introducing more great service wonder what type of buses this services will use.
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If the services are not profitable to them, SBST wouldnt have introduced them in the first place.Originally posted by demag_ac:I don't find it a good initiative. SBSTransit seems to be wasting their resources on services which may not be profitable to them. -
I suggest that they can start FF Sv 107E
Starting from Hougang Central to Shenton Way in the morning and vice versa in the evening.
Here as my following suggested route: Hougang Central Int , Hougang Ave 10 and 2, Upper Serangoon Rd(up to Kovan MRT) then express using the UPS highway until to Potong Pasir opp Blk 101, Potong Pasir MRT, Bendemmer Rd. Geylang Bahru, Lavender St , Lavender MRT station, Jln Sultan, Beach Rd, Connaught Drive, Collyer/Raffles Quay, Shenton Way (morning route)
Operating hours: 0715-0830 Frequency: 15 mins
Evening route: Anson Rd, Robinson Rd, Fullerton Square, Beach Rd, Jln Sultan, Lavender MRT, Lavender Rd, Geylang Bahru, Bendemmer Rd, Serangoon Rd, Potong Pasir MRT, Blk 101, then express using the UPS highway until Kovan MRT, Upper Serangoon Rd, Hougang Ave 2/10, Hougang Central Int
Operating hours: 1730-1845 Frequency: 15 mins -
one word to answer your doubts: NEL.Originally posted by gorby107:I suggest that they can start FF Sv 107E
Starting from Hougang Central to Shenton Way in the morning and vice versa in the evening.
Here as my following suggested route: Hougang Central Int , Hougang Ave 10 and 2, Upper Serangoon Rd(up to Kovan MRT) then express using the UPS highway until to Potong Pasir opp Blk 101, Potong Pasir MRT, Bendemmer Rd. Geylang Bahru, Lavender St , Lavender MRT station, Jln Sultan, Beach Rd, Connaught Drive, Collyer/Raffles Quay, Shenton Way (morning route)
Operating hours: 0700-0830 Frequency: 15 mins
Evening route: Anson Rd, Robinson Rd, Fullerton Square, Beach Rd, Jln Sultan, Lavender MRT, Lavender Rd, Geylang Bahru, Bendemmer Rd, Serangoon Rd, Potong Pasir MRT, Blk 101, then express using the UPS highway until Kovan MRT, Upper Serangoon Rd, Hougang Ave 2/10, Hougang Central Int
Operating hours: 1700-1900 Frequency: 15 mins -
Oh thanks for reminiding this. But if you take normal Sv 107 from Hougang Central Int to Shenton way Ter it may take longer than in the non-peak hours to reach the destination. If launced this ffw on 107 it may not duplicate the NEL fully. From Geylang Bahru onwards it does not duplicate with the NEL anymore. Maybe they can consider it???Originally posted by ^tamago^:one word to answer your doubts: NEL.