SBST planning to install LED on buses
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The only advantage of EDS is for services like 98, 139, 155 & St Mikes routes.Originally posted by 105090:most people travelling on buses are regulars. they will know the place very well, through landmarks, roads and so on, unless its night time. Not sure of the route, can ask the driver. Singapore roads arent tht difficult to navigate around than Malaysia's.
have display system on buses, or EDS, if u all support this move, then dont complain if theres another bus fare hike next year.
Also, the physical side plates are better than EDS. side plates tells you the places the bus is going. EDS is only one at a time. by the time a passenger sees the end of the lines of locations to decide if he is boarding the bus, the bus already left! -
Some feeder Svcs got no svc guides.Originally posted by gorby107:But some service do not have service guides
So the LED maybe useful..... -
huh feeder? Its useless imo. Feeder serves a town rite. Either he is going home, or going to sum fren hse, or a neighbourhood mall watsoever. If he wants to go int, wats the purpouse?Originally posted by gorby107:If like that
All the service should have guides then including feeder service
Feeder is only short distance... go ask bc loh -
And if used in feeders, they sure have a big prob getting the names or watsoever
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So SBST/SMRT will incur high printing costs when they want to print more svc guides especially the feeders.Originally posted by SBS9828X:And if used in feeders, they sure have a big prob getting the names or watsoever -
theres actually no use IMO for any kind of guides for feeders.Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:So SBST/SMRT will incur high printing costs when they want to print more svc guides especially the feeders. -
Feeders don't need svc guides because if they print more, no one takes it, then it will be a white elephant (a waste of money).Originally posted by SBS9828X:theres actually no use IMO for any kind of guides for feeders. -
And ur point of quoting me is?Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:Feeders don't need svc guides because if they print more, no one takes it, then it will be a white elephant (a waste of money). -
IMO on feeder svc guides.Originally posted by SBS9828X:And ur point of quoting me is?
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If there is service guides on feeders......
only us, bus fans will go and take it one with exceptional of a few -
correct, feeders are mainly people staying in the estate, example i take is Lorong 8. ppl satys in lor 8 all take 238., all know the route by heart.
only thing is when there is a customer who dosent stya at lor 8, but is taking 238 for other purposes. then may need to ask for the route.
Feeders has a big problem for such customers. with roads and blocks having almost the same names, very hard for them to differentiate.
St 21, St 22, St 33, Blk 295, Blk 295A, Blk 295F, all same colour, same design, how to differentiate? EDS for feeder is more appropriate. Guides not so. Can always refer to interchange info. -
The LED display may be possible for feeders, because if they don't know the routes, they will ask the BC. They also do not possess the TL guides so they do not know what bus service plies on.Originally posted by 105090:correct, feeders are mainly people staying in the estate, example i take is Lorong 8. ppl satys in lor 8 all take 238., all know the route by heart.
only thing is when there is a customer who dosent stya at lor 8, but is taking 238 for other purposes. then may need to ask for the route.
Feeders has a big problem for such customers. with roads and blocks having almost the same names, very hard for them to differentiate.
St 21, St 22, St 33, Blk 295, Blk 295A, Blk 295F, all same colour, same design, how to differentiate? EDS for feeder is more appropriate. Guides not so. Can always refer to interchange info. -
Do not understand what you mean...Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:EDS may be possible for feeders, because if they don't know the routes, they will ask the BC. They also do not possess the TL guides so they do not know what bus service plies on.
What do u mean by "EDS maybe possible for feeders, because if they dont know the routes, they will ask the BC" ?
Do u mean that the passengers does not know the route, then they will ask the BC? Then what do this have to do with EDS for feeder? -
Without the LED display, they do not know the route, so they will ask the BC. The LED display is a best solution so that they will know the routes.Originally posted by lemon1974:Do not understand what you mean...
What do u mean by "EDS maybe possible for feeders, because if they dont know the routes, they will ask the BC" ?
Do u mean that the passengers does not know the route, then they will ask the BC? Then what do this have to do with EDS for feeder? -
Are we talking about the EDS or the LED now???
I am confused
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The LED display, prev post edited.Originally posted by gorby107:Are we talking about the EDS or the LED now???
I am confused -
Oh I see.......Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:The LED display, prev post edited. -
Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:
If they dun know the route, how did they know that that particular feeder service can take them to their destination? Dun tell me they anyhow take any feeder service and then sit inside and look at the LED display, hoping to find their destination and then alight?
Without the [b]LED display, they do not know the route, so they will ask the BC. The LED display is a best solution so that they will know the routes.[/b]
Also, even with LED display in bus, there is no guarantee that the passengers know the route by looking at the LED... There maybe a lot of confusion.
Just an example as follow:
If a certain passenger want to go to blk 164 at Toa Payoh Lor 1.... so he boarded a feeder service 231 from interchange and look at the LED. The bus reach first bus stop and the LED show Block 163, can he alight? The LED might not show the exact block that the passenger want to go.
So if he alight at Block 163 (he assume that blk 163 should be close to blk 164)he sure cant find Block 164. which is actually two bus stops away...
So i dun think the LED is that useful. It would be better to ask the BC. a SV231 BC should be able to tell you where to alight to go to blk 164, instead of depending on the LED. -
If i was in that guy's shoe, and if i was form the int, id rather get help thereOriginally posted by lemon1974:If they dun know the route, how did they know that that particular feeder service can take them to their destination? Dun tell me they anyhow take any feeder service and then sit inside and look at the LED display, hoping to find their destination and then alight?
Also, even with LED display in bus, there is no guarantee that the passengers know the route by looking at the LED... There maybe a lot of confusion.
Just an example as follow:
If a certain passenger want to go to blk 164 at Toa Payoh Lor 1.... so he boarded a feeder service 231 from interchange and look at the LED. The bus reach first bus stop and the LED show Block 163, can he alight? The LED might not show the exact block that the passenger want to go.
So if he alight at Block 163 (he assume that blk 163 should be close to blk 164)he sure cant find Block 164. which is actually two bus stops away...
So i dun think the LED is that useful. It would be better to ask the BC. a SV231 BC should be able to tell you where to alight to go to blk 164, instead of depending on the LED. -
singapore transport systems very backward already, in many other countries, already got audio devices informing passengers of destinations on buses and trains
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For example, in Malaysia, there are audio devices on TRITON buses.Originally posted by Edgar_Davids:singapore transport systems very backward already, in many other countries, already got audio devices informing passengers of destinations on buses and trains -
I'm afraid the cost of this might be passed on the the passengers. If only the Scheme B services were more extensive so as to serve as a "no-frills" alternative to the "premium" SMRT and SBST buses. Of course, that's just wishful thinking.
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Scheme B is to supplement the higher demand routes of SBST & SMRT routes.Originally posted by PhyrePhox:I'm afraid the cost of this might be passed on the the passengers. If only the Scheme B services were more extensive so as to serve as a "no-frills" alternative to the "premium" SMRT and SBST buses. Of course, that's just wishful thinking. -
But I've never seen a Scheme B bus before. What do they look like?
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anything from those busplus mini-buses to 46 seater school busesOriginally posted by Donavan:But I've never seen a Scheme B bus before. What do they look like?