How to differentiate bus engines?
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:yes, but on the contrary to this note, SBST actually prefers Voith to ZF at this moment.
SBST chose to get only 3-speed Voiths, though they can actually get a 4-speed equivalent that comes with a 4th overdrive gear, because the buses are speed limited to 60kph anyway. The overdrive will kick in at a speed higher than this, so it's impractical to have a non-working 4th gear. -
Regoes starting with 54x?Originally posted by 914727:any idea which regos for the voith merz o405 (SBST)? -
dat means tamago need to edit edit editOriginally posted by Windy_hates_B10TLs:Volvo Olympians were built in Irving in Scotland. Not Sweden -
Not necessary. SLBP buses like 542D don't have Voiths. Maybe someone else has the exact list.Originally posted by SBS 233 X:Regoes starting with 54x? -
correct. slbp does not hold Voith O405's.Originally posted by stooper:Not necessary. SLBP buses like 542D don't have Voiths. Maybe someone else has the exact list.
Voith O405: 87B, 549K, 550E, 552A, 553Y, 554U, 557L, 558J, 559G, 562X, 564R, 565M, 566K, 567H, 568E, 569C, 570Y, 571U, 572S, 573P, 574L, 575J, 576G, 577D, 578B, 579Z, 580T, 581R. -
yeah. but, no lah. very busy. as an indicator, seeing the VIN of a bus:Originally posted by SBS9828X:dat means tamago need to edit edit edit
actually UK (VIN first 2 is SL) for 9200-940x. 940x-9670 are from Sweden (YV).
e.g. SBS9408A is YV3YNF216TC026783 (probably first SBS VO chassis built in Sweden). SBS9400X is SLVYNF217SC025922. -
omg... wer u get this?Originally posted by ^tamago^:yeah. but, no lah. very busy. as an indicator, seeing the VIN of a bus:
actually UK (VIN first 2 is SL) for 9200-940x. 940x-9670 are from Sweden (YV).
e.g. SBS9408A is YV3YNF216TC026783 (probably first SBS VO chassis built in Sweden). SBS9400X is SLVYNF217SC025922. -
giving u something valuable:
VIN/VMI information for Volvo Bus Ltd.
1st - 2nd place
Country of origin
YV: Sweden
SL: United Kingdom
3rd place
Vehicle Type
3: Bus (YV only)
4th - 5th place
1M: B10M (No longer in production)
R1: B10B
R2: B12
R3: B6
R4: B10B
R5: B10L
R6: B7R
R9: B12M
S1: Super Olympian B10TL
S2: B7TL
S4: B9TL
YN: Olympian (No longer in production)
6th - 7th place
B12
EX: Volvo TD123E
B6
6S: Volvo TD63ES
B1: Volvo D6A215
Super Olympian
E1: Volvo D10A 285 EC01
H8: Volvo D10A 285 EC01
Olympian
A4: Volvo D10A245
C1: Cummins LT10
F2: Volvo TD102KF
8th place: Unknown
9th place: Checksum
10th place: Year of Production
11th place
Production Plant
1: Poland
A: Sweden
C: Irvine, UK -
Now to Dennis.
4th place: Wheelbase
Trident 3
1: 5700mm
2: 4385mm
3: 4993mm
5th place: Engine
Trident 3 / E500
1: Cummins M305E 21
2: Cummins M330E
3: Cummins ISMe 330 / ISMe 335
Dart SLF
2: Cummins 6BT147
4: Cummins 6BT215
D: Cummins ISBe
Dart
2: Cummins C245
6th place: Gearbox
Trident 3 / E500
1: Voith D863.3 (3-speed auto)
2: ZF 5HP590 (5-speed auto)
3: Voith D864.4 (4-speed auto)
4: Voith D864.3 (4-speed auto)
5: Voith D864.3E (4-speed auto)
6: ZF 5HP602 (5-speed auto)
7: Voith D864.5 (4-speed auto)
Dart SLF
2: Allison AT545 (4-speed auto)
5: Eaton (6-speed manual)
Dart
1: ZF 4HP500 (4-speed auto)
7th place: Unknown
8th place: Left/right wheel drive
L: Left Wheel Drive
R: Right Wheel Drive
9th place: Generation
1: First Generation (Mark)
2: Second Generation
And so on...
10th place: Year of Production
11th place: Production Plant
G: Guildford
12th place: Chassis Type
D: Dart
J: Javelin
L: Lance / Arrow (No longer in production)
T: Trident 3 / E500
W: Dart SLF/SPD
X: Trident 2
13th place: Bodywork
Trident 3
1: Alexander ALX500 12M
2: Duple Metsec DM5000 12M
3: Duple Metsec DM5000 10.6M
4: Alexander ALX500 11.3M
5: Duple Metsec DM5000 10.3M (Low-floor)
6: Alexander ALX500 10.6M
7: Duple Metsec DM5000 12M (Left Wheel Drive)
8: Duple Metsec DM5000 12M (Improved)
9: Alexander ALX500 11.3M (Improved)
A: Alexander ALX500 12M (Improved)
B: Alexander ALX500 10.6M (Improved)
C: Duple Metsec DM5000 10.3M (Improved)
D: Enviro 500
Dart
7: Duple Metsec
14th - 17th place: Chassis Production Number -
btw 526C has double-sound.
The normal engine sound kicks in first.
Then a strangely different sound came in. For whatever reason, it sounded more low-pitch. Would anyone mind explaining why? -
SBS526B or TIB526H?Originally posted by Donavan:btw 526C has double-sound.
The normal engine sound kicks in first.
Then a strangely different sound came in. For whatever reason, it sounded more low-pitch. Would anyone mind explaining why? -
Oops. Kena mixed up again. 526 B.
See, I am currently not working at 10% potential yet.
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is the sound limited to 526B only?Originally posted by Donavan:Oops. Kena mixed up again. 526 B.
See, I am currently not working at 10% potential yet. -
So far, on all Mercs I took, this one from SL sounds unique.
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If you want another uniquely soudning bus from SL, take 1859J of 192... It whistles like crazy when accelerating. You don't even have to take it! if you stand at the 179/502 berth there when the bus turns out of BNL, you can hear it whistle when accelerating!
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2697C has turbo-lag, don't ask me why, it takes some time, then suddenly the bus accelerates normally.
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Guess that the bus has some transmission prob, instead of turbo lag. This happens to SBS2715J of 162 as well.Originally posted by SBS1908B:2697C has turbo-lag, don't ask me why, it takes some time, then suddenly the bus accelerates normally. -
Try SBS906M of Service 23. You will know the meaning of "SHake it like a pack of popcorn".Originally posted by SBS1908B:Agreed.
I took it when it cameoed on 107, and it proved to be wonderful, with the bus holding the gears to high rpm, but no shaky transition found on the mkIIIs in gears. Guess it's the age of the mkIIIs that is causing the diff, since they use the same engine and gearbox. -
If you guys are able to hear the engine in those of 92-93 series and to that of 94-96 series, the 92-93 series would sound more of a MK 2 when in stationary mode. The 94-96 series sound more deeper and galant than the 92-93 series.
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Heard from some BCs driving service 23. This bus is the worst bus among other perm buses... the instrument panel there...meter 'dead' one. Cant see the 'wind'? Sorry this is translated from Chinese so wrong words please correct me.Originally posted by SBS9816E:Try SBS906M of Service 23. You will know the meaning of "SHake it like a pack of popcorn". -
2762Y is a funny bus.
It goes like all other DM3500, but then goes pssp pssp along its way when crusining and accelerating. Only during wet weather does it screech. Why is this so? -
volvo buses don't have turbo lag. if u realised, the 2 buses with this problem are using Voith turbos. it is indeed a transmission problem cos i monitor 162 fleet, u noe. somehow the torque is poorly matched at the start.Originally posted by SBS1908B:2697C has turbo-lag, don't ask me why, it takes some time, then suddenly the bus accelerates normally.
if u wan to noe what is turbo lag, try the Cummins engines on the LO3x and Lances.
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from what you say, the whistle sounds like turbo to me, you know. the higher the rpm of the bus, the more audible the whistle becomes, right?Originally posted by stooper:If you want another uniquely soudning bus from SL, take 1859J of 192... It whistles like crazy when accelerating. You don't even have to take it! if you stand at the 179/502 berth there when the bus turns out of BNL, you can hear it whistle when accelerating! -
What about SBS 526 B (The double-sounding fella.)
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pssp pssp sounds coming from the air compressor indicates a faulty air compressor, though it can mean something else deeper, like faulty air system, loose engine-compressor belt or engine idling speed too high.Originally posted by Donavan:2762Y is a funny bus.
It goes like all other DM3500, but then goes pssp pssp along its way when crusining and accelerating. Only during wet weather does it screech. Why is this so?