Volvo B9TL
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The bus looks excellent! Better than 9889U!
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front desto looks like same size as a SD's
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Are the CNGs Euro 4?Originally posted by ^tamago^:erm. we don't have a euro-4 requirement for new diesel vehicles until oct. 1. and so far, MD9 has yet to be released, from what i've sourced. -
No. Its Euro3. Haiz... The emissions controls are getting more and more stringent. Meaning more and more work for us.Originally posted by stooper:Are the CNGs Euro 4? -
i always thought the CNG's are our only Euro-4 vehicles..... die, back to sq one?
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i am fed up with your hissy replace that with dun care author rights attitudeOriginally posted by ^tamago^:whoa. good. much more pics.
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haha. who are u?Originally posted by ZYX2005:i am fed up with your hissy replace that with dun care author rights attitude
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Any noticed what's the bus rego???
Is the bus rego going to be SBS4263S(Blue Temp bus rego for test drive/trial run)??? -
NO bus rego yet.. That one is for test drive/road trial etc use only...Originally posted by brotherchen1982:Any noticed what's the bus rego???
Is the bus rego going to be SBS4263S(Blue Temp bus rego)??? -
Use SD front & side desto for Mk 4 buses, not DD front & side desto for DDs...
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me being Apex :
i took the B9TL on S21 with my parents last week.
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Interesting to note. Who's the maker of the bodywork ? Or SBST's own product ? Soon Chow, SC Auto etc. not involved ? Seems the seats are from Vogel Sitze ? The wheel rims are chrome plated ? Steel or alloy rims ?
But no photo showing any wheelchair ramps (retractable if any ?) like on the M-B Vito taxis or other mechanism to enable the wheelchair to get in & out of the vehicle ??
As for the driver cockpit, the new steering-wheel design is welcomed but the 'new' Volvo dashboard instrumentation panel looks more backdated than before seeming somewhat DAF-like & still using mechanical milleage counters ?! I wonder how clear the display would be @ nite as such ?! Having seen the new generation M-B dashboard used by HI on JB-KL on their O 500 R , the Volvo B9TL dashboard seems to show 'no improvement' over those from the B10M (seeming the opposite instead) & both not as modern & elegent as that on the O 500 R.
I see on the windscreen the claim of 1st Euro-3 public bus ??
Is that really so ? Maybe 1st from SBST or operators from Singapore ?
But if it's to mean 1st among public buses in Singapore, then (debatably) i won't consider it so. Because with HI's launch of CW3 operating into here, their
M-B O 500's uses engines which are natively Euro-3 compliant but only perhaps 'downgraded' to Euro-2 due to the higher sulphur diesel fuel availability from Malaysia ?! Therefore, on the surface SBST's claim of 1st Euro-3 public bus may seem so BUT thinking more throughly, i have to conclude it's a 'yes' & 'no' claim.Originally posted by SBS9818A: -
I say CNG is deemed compatible to Euro-4 maybe Euro-5 too !Originally posted by stooper:Are the CNGs Euro 4?
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Slightly off topic, but why has Euro III vehicles not been so popular as their Euro II counterparts? It seems like many cities are making the switch from Euro II straight to Euro IV.
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ahh.. Comfort Delgro Engineering? i wouldnt be shocked if the seats are frm some small Singaporean company.Originally posted by hseochin:Interesting to note. Who's the maker of the bodywork ? Or SBST's own product ? Soon Chow, SC Auto etc. not involved ? Seems the seats are from Vogel Sitze ? The wheel rims are chrome plated ? Steel or alloy rims ?
But no photo showing any wheelchair ramps (retractable if any ?) like on the M-B Vito taxis or other mechanism to enable the wheelchair to get in & out of the vehicle ??
the wheelchair ramps have to be manually lifted. only on the exit door, i think. works like a flap. no automated mechanisms. -
I don't think so.
I believe due to the more limited availability of lower sulphur diesel fuel & their higher price etc., Euro-2 vehicles of course more popular than Euro-3.
But advancing to Euro-4 is more 'difficult' as more new fuel & engine technologies are involved, which also means higher cost levels for the sake of lower emissions. In Euro-4 they have stuff like SCR & Ad-Blue fuel additives, people would naturally tend to take 'some time' to get used to these innovations & be comfortably to afford the higher prices before Euro-4 becomes widely popular.Originally posted by iveco:Slightly off topic, but why has Euro III vehicles not been so popular as their Euro II counterparts? It seems like many cities are making the switch from Euro II straight to Euro IV. -
it is a ComfortDelgro Engineering bodyworkOriginally posted by hseochin:Interesting to note. Who's the maker of the bodywork ? Or SBST's own product ? Soon Chow, SC Auto etc. not involved ? Seems the seats are from Vogel Sitze ? The wheel rims are chrome plated ? Steel or alloy rims ?
But no photo showing any wheelchair ramps (retractable if any ?) like on the M-B Vito taxis or other mechanism to enable the wheelchair to get in & out of the vehicle ??
As for the driver cockpit, the new steering-wheel design is welcomed but the 'new' Volvo dashboard instrumentation panel looks more backdated than before seeming somewhat DAF-like & still using mechanical milleage counters ?! I wonder how clear the display would be @ nite as such ?! Having seen the new generation M-B dashboard used by HI on JB-KL on their O 500 R , the Volvo B9TL dashboard seems to show 'no improvement' over those from the B10M (seeming the opposite instead) & both not as modern & elegent as that on the O 500 R.
I see on the windscreen the claim of 1st Euro-3 public bus ??
Is that really so ? Maybe 1st from SBST or operators from Singapore ?
But if it's to mean 1st among public buses in Singapore, then (debatably) i won't consider it so. Because with HI's launch of CW3 operating into here, their
M-B O 500's uses engines which are natively Euro-3 compliant but only perhaps 'downgraded' to Euro-2 due to the higher sulphur diesel fuel availability from Malaysia ?! Therefore, on the surface SBST's claim of 1st Euro-3 public bus may seem so BUT thinking more throughly, i have to conclude it's a 'yes' & 'no' claim. -
B9TL is done by bodyworks (Comfortdelgro) in HG depot. I have seen them doing. They're rushing the remainder buses now. But we have to be patient as they have limited manpower. The guy doing bus grooming for me also explained his lack of labour. So we ought to give them credit for the sucessful prototype thats on the road.
According to Volvo S.E.A who came to my workshop, he told me that the bus B9TL is Euro4.
There is discussion going on about giving all the 5 depots each a share of the 150 buses. If thats decided, it will be good news for the commuters.
CNG is Euro 3 as confirmed by Volvo S.E.A during a short CNG explainatory course conducted in SLWS weeks ago shortly before I started to circulate the workshop display tech guide for the CNG bus in Soon Lee. But as the bus has so clean exhaust which can even pass Euro4. -
lol...u din watch the news eh...Originally posted by hseochin:But no photo showing any wheelchair ramps (retractable if any ?) like on the M-B Vito taxis or other mechanism to enable the wheelchair to get in & out of the vehicle ??
from the video on the news, there is a ramp at the BACK DOOR, manual operate, foldable... -
IT IS SBS9900U...and wad makes u tink tat they would gif such ODD NUMBER LIKE 4623...test plate onli...(although the bus is not registered yet)Originally posted by brotherchen1982:Any noticed what's the bus rego???
Is the bus rego going to be SBS4263S(Blue Temp bus rego for test drive/trial run)??? -
How are you so sure it's 9900U? Would it be 9900 to 9999, then the other 50 buses another rego?
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RELIABLE SOURCES!Originally posted by stooper:How are you so sure it's 9900U? Would it be 9900 to 9999, then the other 50 buses another rego?
and tat is y im puzzled WHERE THE OTHER 50 would be...
my guess would be
100 ZF = 9900-9999
50 unknown(maybe voith) = 9701- 9750 >>> by archangel
jus like strider -
My guess is from 9691 onwards, since it was unused.
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hmmm...i tink it would be better to be using a new hundread slot...Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:My guess is from 9691 onwards, since it was unused. -
Let me ask you this question.. How Reliable are yoru sources.. ?? Unless you are telling me that you are working inside SBST or LTA...Originally posted by alex_cai92:RELIABLE SOURCES!
and tat is y im puzzled WHERE THE OTHER 50 would be...
my guess would be
100 ZF = 9900-9999
50 unknown(maybe voith) = 9701- 9750 >>> by archangel
jus like strider