Volvo B9TL
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if u c darryl photos, the bottom of the photo wrote SBS9900U, i dun expect him to "make out" some regos...he is FOSBST, and was at BRAM taking photos of 9900. I dun expect him to fake out a rego. Plus, i tink the interior oreadi haf the reog<<Originally posted by sBs_boy:Let me ask you this question.. How Reliable are yoru sources.. ?? Unless you are telling me that you are working inside SBST or LTA... -
Wow! You trust him a lot!Originally posted by alex_cai92:if u c darryl photos, the bottom of the photo wrote SBS9900U, i dun expect him to "make out" some regos...he is FOSBST, and was at BRAM taking photos of 9900. I dun expect him to fake out a rego. Plus, i tink the interior oreadi haf the reog<< -
you singaporean?Originally posted by sinicker:ahh.. Comfort Delgro Engineering? i wouldnt be shocked if the seats are frm some small Singaporean company.
the wheelchair ramps have to be manually lifted. only on the exit door, i think. works like a flap. no automated mechanisms.
you underestimeate the bus body building industry here. we have ben building bsues for like eyars.
this "SBS9900U" is the ultimate product. loads of innovations,
and fyi the seats are german made. no guesses on the brand. doors are hmm what brand are they...
i cna go on if u wish
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we think its 9900 becuase the ticket printout said 9900. however a more sensible guess of 9988 for the "first unit" to show off in APR is a good guess.
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WHY NOT! He haf to bear serious consequences if he anyhow put the rego...since he is FOSBST and WAS AT THE CEREMONY, Why not?Originally posted by stooper:Wow! You trust him a lot! -
1. There were no registration plates whatsoever on the B9TL bus. The bus is not registered yet. The blue number plate was just a temporary permit which allows the bus to be driven on the road.
2. 9900 was the number printed on the ticket which was supposed to be the bus registration number IF the ticket was printed on a normal working bus. We have jumped to the conclusion that this was the (intended) rego for the bus which might or might not be true.
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Doesn't make sense to me B9TL is Euro-4 ?! I don't think that Volvo person is too accurate here.
As then i'll be fussy on the fuel type & no mention of SCR or other new alternative emission technologies deployed or use of any fuel additive etc. ?
Furthermore the claim on the windscreen sticker is Euro-3.
So there's enough reason to believe it's Euro-3.
As for CNG being Euro-3, perhaps they refering to CNG-diesel hybrid model ??
As if it's 'pure' CNG, it's expected to be Euro-4 ?!?Originally posted by MS:B9TL is done by bodyworks (Comfortdelgro) in HG depot. I have seen them doing. They're rushing the remainder buses now. But we have to be patient as they have limited manpower. The guy doing bus grooming for me also explained his lack of labour. So we ought to give them credit for the sucessful prototype thats on the road.
According to Volvo S.E.A who came to my workshop, he told me that the bus B9TL is Euro4.
There is discussion going on about giving all the 5 depots each a share of the 150 buses. If thats decided, it will be good news for the commuters.
CNG is Euro 3 as confirmed by Volvo S.E.A during a short CNG explainatory course conducted in SLWS weeks ago shortly before I started to circulate the workshop display tech guide for the CNG bus in Soon Lee. But as the bus has so clean exhaust which can even pass Euro4. -
I see...Originally posted by hseochin:Doesn't make sense to me B9TL is Euro-4 ?! I don't think that Volvo person is too accurate here.
As then i'll be fussy on the fuel type & no mention of SCR or other new alternative emission technologies deployed or use of any fuel additive etc. ?
Furthermore the claim on the windscreen sticker is Euro-3.
So there's enough reason to believe it's Euro-3.
As for CNG being Euro-3, perhaps they refering to CNG-diesel hybrid model ??
As if it's 'pure' CNG, it's expected to be Euro-4 ?!?
I'm afraid that what you said is not the truth.
It is always better to refer back to the workshops for technical specifications than to assume.
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MS why is the B9TL still using destos not EDS?
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i read sumwhere that EDS on DDs are much more prone to spoils...Originally posted by busmanic:MS why is the B9TL still using destos not EDS?
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its rather simple really
sbst uses plastic destos to save on costs. an EDS set cna easily cost much more thn a piece of plastic
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EDS = more costs = higher costs = fare hike?
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If that was the case, then SMRT buses' fares deserves to be higher than that of SBST then.....rather than equal...Originally posted by 105090:EDS = more costs = higher costs = fare hike?
SMRT buses has front/side eds and not forgetting the EDS on the inside....
SBST?? Traditional Acrylic Display Board.... some more, now its even a smaller size?? -
Overall a beautiful bus. I'm proud that CDGE could come out with a bus this stunning, and although I've yet to hitch a ride on these beauties, I'm sure it is gonna be a product any local enthusiast will be proud of.
According to a member who attended the launch, the front desto will be similar to current DD-sized ones. It looked smaller because of the illusion made by the black surroundings. -
Hope we can see the bus number w/o routes clearly...Originally posted by Superbus:According to a member who attended the launch, the front desto will be similar to current DD-sized ones. It looked smaller because of the illusion made by the black surroundings.
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Compare a set of destos costing $35 and an EDS set that cos $6k odd, which of the 2 will u choose so that its cost effective and yet deliver the same purpose?Originally posted by busmanic:MS why is the B9TL still using destos not EDS? -
Haha... but i would still prefer the EDS...Originally posted by service_238:Compare a set of destos costing $35 and an EDS set that cos $6k odd, which of the 2 will u choose so that its cost effective and yet deliver the same purpose?
SMRT is still able to maintain the same fare as SBS...haha..
hmmm....den might as well not install all these features on 9900U and save more cost....
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But remember that this is at the cost of having insufficient (and needlessly expensive) buses to go around. SBS Transit does away with such unnecessities for most of their buses, and the result is that they are able to purchase more buses at a fraction of the cost if they had brought in buses with EDS systems, which translates into more buses to use for completely new routes or for routes with higher demand (compare this with how A$$MRT rarely start completely new bus routes (their "new" routes are often the result of merging or seperating existing routes), while they struggle to cope with existing demand).Originally posted by muziq bus:Haha... but i would still prefer the EDS...
SMRT is still able to maintain the same fare as SBS...haha..
Besides, side EDS display less information than placards, while the front EDS often squeeze in too much unnecessary information, when all we need to know is the bus number. Also, older EDSes are not very visible at night.
Just to add: EDSes are also more likely to get spoilt, with dead pixels and problems like that. You should see the front EDS of one of the buses on route 963; there seems to be a problem with the dots flipping over or something. -
Take a look at the Nissan side EDS... They almost always are covered with the rear destos... Even if the rear destos are not at the back window, they are placed in the front windscreen... Does anyone know why? Is it front EDS too small? cannot see clearly?Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:Just to add: EDSes are also more likely to get spoilt, with dead pixels and problems like that. You should see the front EDS of one of the buses on route 963; there seems to be a problem with the dots flipping over or something. -
no...cos the rear desto holder has broken off...the SC no place to put the rear desto...so put in front. SBST rear desto still can squeeze behind the last bench.Originally posted by stooper:Even if the rear destos are not at the back window, they are placed in the front windscreen... Does anyone know why? Is it front EDS too small? cannot see clearly? -
That is why commuters can get a fast ride on SMRT... the drivers are always rushing.... SBST buses are slow and are uncomfortable and usually have small legrooms...Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:But remember that this is at the cost of having insufficient (and needlessly expensive) buses to go around. SBS Transit does away with such unnecessities for most of their buses, and the result is that they are able to purchase more buses at a fraction of the cost if they had brought in buses with EDS systems, which translates into more buses to use for completely new routes or for routes with higher demand (compare this with how A$$MRT rarely start completely new bus routes (their "new" routes are often the result of merging or seperating existing routes), while they struggle to cope with existing demand).
Besides, side EDS display less information than placards, while the front EDS often squeeze in too much unnecessary information, when all we need to know is the bus number. Also, older EDSes are not very visible at night.
Just to add: EDSes are also more likely to get spoilt, with dead pixels and problems like that. You should see the front EDS of one of the buses on route 963; there seems to be a problem with the dots flipping over or something.
At least for EDS, SMRT is always willing to fix and replace them....
unlike 9888Y....spoilt, then throw...
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Never Suan Comfort Delgro...Originally posted by sinicker:ahh.. Comfort Delgro Engineering? i wouldnt be shocked if the seats are frm some small Singaporean company.
the wheelchair ramps have to be manually lifted. only on the exit door, i think. works like a flap. no automated mechanisms.
They improvise things in a better and simpler way...
Example: Ambulance--Air Suspension, 6 wheels instead of 4, can travel 200+km/h and stil very stable.
The trick, Air suspension at the back and they add alot of weight, so that the weight is equalized... -
If what i speculate is in doubt, then how's it noone in SBST did any correction to the windscreen sticker on that B9TL to lay claim as 1st Euro-4 bus here instead of Euro-3 ?!??
Technical specifications themselves are based on certain very specific assumptions/conditions being met, otherwise even workshop technical specifications etc. need not be an accurate depiction of the actual product @ hand. Manufacturers can have varients/different versions of even 1 model.
Looking @ the picture more 'casually', if a vehicle is Euro-4 compliant, then technically such a vehicle is also Euro-3, Euro-2, Euro-1 even Euro-0 compliant.
That's because of the incremental stringentness of the emission standards in progression from Euro-0 to 4 & beyond.
Like saying this PC peripheral is USB 2.0 compliant => it's also USB 1.1 compliant BUT another device stated as USB 1.1 compliant need NOT also be USB 2.0 compliant i.e. backwards compatability goes in 1 direction only hence not necessarilly true the other way round.Originally posted by MS:I see...
I'm afraid that what you said is not the truth.
It is always better to refer back to the workshops for technical specifications than to assume.
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What's the make/model of this ambulance ??
The rear air-suspension a standard or optional add-on feature ?
You sure air-springs add a lot of weight to a vehicle ?!?
I see air-suspension as being more 'fluid' than leaf-spring suspension in distributing the load of the vehicle. There should be a rocker-switch (like on the M-B Vito/V-Class) whereby the desired height of the rear can be set.
The system tends to be self-leveling by nature.
200 km/h ?? i'm doubtful the ambulances here can do that !!
Maybe the most 170 km/h for those with the new 2.7 litre diesel engine.Originally posted by QX5216J:Never Suan Comfort Delgro...
They improvise things in a better and simpler way...
Example: Ambulance--Air Suspension, 6 wheels instead of 4, can travel 200+km/h and stil very stable.
The trick, Air suspension at the back and they add alot of weight, so that the weight is equalized...