Longest route still surviving today
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I went to the National Library today to do some research, having found bus guides dating back to 1980 but no time previously (
) . I took the 1980/1981 SBS Bus Guide and compared a few routes with the ones listed in the 2006 Transitlink Guide (routes 169, 170, 284, the A.M.K. feeders, and the Bukit Merah feeders). What I found (if I remember correctly) was this:
• route 169 used a slightly different route inside Ang Mo Kio, and it's route from Sembawang Road onwards follows the current route 856 almost exactly (except it didn't go into Senoko), right up to the old Woodlands interchange (the current Woodlands Interchange didn't exist back then, as we all know)
• route 170 has no change for the Singapore portion since 1980, but clearly uses a different route in Malaysia.
• the 1980/1981 Ang Mo Kio feeder routes are barely recognisable today when compared to their current routes
• now, this is amazing: for routes 272, 273, 274, and 284, there has been virtually no change in their routes since something like 26 years ago! Also, at that time, route 275 didn't exist (it was probably introduced sometime between 1982 and 1986, drawing from the different old bus guides I found there (the 1982 and 1986 editions were the ones I found and used)), and even then, that route has no change since then! However, there is this one withdrawn route 271, which used to loop at Telok Blangah Crescent. One thing that I did took notice of, and which I jotted down notes of, is this route 270. Footnotes say that this route will only be implemented as a "Ring Service" under some "Telok Blangah New Bus Plan". Plotting the route on a map, I could see that it looped at two places (specifically, Telok Blangah (T.B.) Street 32 and T.B. Rise, with the former first), in a fashion faintly similar to how intra-town (Townlink) buses loop at two places in a new town. The "return route" simply meant that the bus could go to T.B. Rise first. The weird thing was, this route completely ignored the bus interchange, and terminates inside a J.T.C. Factory. Also, there was no mention of this route in the 1982 bus guide; it seemingly was never introduced in the real world, only listed. Either that, or it got withdrawn very quickly after it's introduction. What gives? -
he simply do not know where is Labrador Terminal lah. He is not yet born that time...Originally posted by iveco:Still, 166 was extended to cover for 146.
Don't shoot your mouth off. It makes you look like a monkey.
but hor, maybe he will say that he have taken a ride on SV 166 to labrador ter before also..
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took it with his parents rite? but he still havent edit sia. good.
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haha. okies, to help u a bit from my own book shelf, 74 is upp s'goon to clementi via marymount by 1993.Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:This comes as a surprise because when I checked back the 1989-90 Bus Guide, 74 was still going by Ang Mo Kio Ave 1 and Upp Thomson Rd. I don't have any records of bus routes between 1990 and 1994 but the amendment was made between this period because the 1994 Transitlink Guide already reflects the present route. Possibly it was made when the route was extended to Upp Serangoon circa. 1991/2. The Marymount Rd route was far more recent than the 3 decades claimed by 'you know who'.
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Sv 169 swap rt with old 857...
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Originally posted by lemon1974:he simply do not know where is Labrador Terminal lah. He is not yet born that time...
but hor, maybe he will say that he have taken a ride on SV 166 to labrador ter before also..
Please believe me. I read the Bus Guides 1986 & 1988 at NLB and pointed out where was Labrador Ter located.Originally posted by sinicker: took it with his parents rite? but he still havent edit sia. good.
BTW, according to tranquilice's post, it's outside Singapore Institute of Marketing along Alexandra Rd. -
so u check it yourself or know it via tranquilice post?Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:Please believe me. I read the Bus Guides 1986 & 1988 at NLB and pointed out where was Labrador Ter located.
BTW, according to tranquilice's post, it's outside Singapore Institute of Marketing along Alexandra Rd.
Even if you know, you still make a big mistake of saying, that it is "shortened" to clementi int. This show that your geography is not that good.
btw,did u take 166 to labrador ter before? -
1. Here's the link about the Labrador Ter.Originally posted by lemon1974:so u check it yourself or know it via tranquilice post?
Even if you know, you still make a big mistake of saying, that it is "shortened" to clementi int. This show that your geography is not that good.
btw,did u take 166 to labrador ter before?
2. Recently checked the 1986 & 1988 Bus Guides and confirm that the Labrador Ter exists.
3. Obviously NO. -
oic. so, it's just research and quoting lah. okay okay.
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What about service 170? In the past, there used to be only one route for service 170 which plies from Queen Street to Larkin from my 2001 TL guide onwards. However, now, there are two routes of service 170 which the red plate plies from Queen Street and Larkin and the blue plate that plies from Kranji and Kotaraya II. Does that consider a change or amendment?
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Technically 170 Blue Plate is considered 170X, alternate route. You could say "enhancement".Originally posted by tanjun:What about service 170? In the past, there used to be only one route for service 170 which plies from Queen Street to Larkin from my 2001 TL guide onwards. However, now, there are two routes of service 170 which the red plate plies from Queen Street and Larkin and the blue plate that plies from Kranji and Kotaraya II. Does that consider a change or amendment? -
Wait a minute...
In the 1970s, or even earlier than that, Svc 170 used to ply along MacKenzie Rd.
(Source: Singapore Bus Guide 1971) -
tat is because last time dun have rochor canal rd.Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:Wait a minute...
In the 1970s, or even earlier than that, Svc 170 used to ply along MacKenzie Rd.
(Source: Singapore Bus Guide 1971) -
Oh is that a very small road? Is there any reason why service 170's route has changed to passing by rochor canal road?
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Yes it is. Actually, in the 1970s, most of the services that are listed below were called on MacKenzie Rd too.Originally posted by tanjun:Oh is that a very small road? Is there any reason why service 170's route has changed to passing by rochor canal road?
Sv 125, 140, 140A, 149, 149A, 150, 160, 161, 162, 163, 170, 171, 172, 175, 176, 180, 180A & 181.
I am not sure if the above services had changed to passing by Rochor Canal Rd around the 1970s. Can anyone clarify with that?
(Source: Singapore Bus Guide 1971) -
Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:
the answer wun be easy to find, but i can tell you that they also used short street before there was rochor canal rd.
Yes it is. Actually, in the 1970s, most of the services that are listed below were called on MacKenzie Rd too.
Sv 125, 140, 140A, 149, 149A, 150, 160, 161, 162, 163, [b]170, 171, 172, 175, 176, 180, 180A & 181.
I am not sure if the above services had changed to passing by Rochor Canal Rd around the 1970s. Can anyone clarify with that?
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:the answer wun be easy to find, but i can tell you that they also used short street before there was rochor canal rd.
UNITED BUS CO.
I don't think 170 uses short st in 1971, but Rochor Canal Rd had been existed at that time. Re-checked the SBG 1971.
Sv 170 Route
Via Woodlands Rd, Upp Bukit Timah Rd, Dunearn Rd, Bukit Timah Rd, Rochor Canal Rd, Rochor Rd and Queen St.
Return via Queen St, Ophir Rd, Rochor Canal Rd, Bencoolen St, Middle Rd, Selegie Rd, MacKenzie Rd, Bukit Timah Rd, Upp Bukit Timah Rd and Woodlands Rd
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u got dig out the only one bus guides in the 60s?Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:I don't think 170 uses short st in 1971, but Rochor Canal Rd had been existed at that time. Re-checked the SBG 1971. -
Oh, that means in the past, service 170 used to make a round in the bencoolen area.
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I requested for the 1964 Bus Guides but the NLB staff said that they don't have.Originally posted by ^tamago^:u got dig out the only one bus guides in the 60s?
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whoa. suay. i think it's permanently gone liao.Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:I requested for the 1964 Bus Guides but the NLB staff said that they don't have. -
hm if only i can get old guides now...
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In the book titled "Singapore - A History of its Trams, Trolleybuses & Buses, Volume One, 1880s to 1960s", the very first guide book issued by the Singapore Traction Company was featured in the Appendix A. The guide was dated August 1955. The services are:
Trolley buses
2: Geylang - Tanjong Pagar
3: Geylang - Outram Rd
4: Paya Lebar - Finlayson Green
6: Newton - Finlayson Green (Outram Rd after 7 PM daily and all day on Sunday)
Omnibuses
1: Moulmein Rd - Keppel Harbour
8: Moulmein Rd - Keppel Harbour (Tg Pagar after 7 PM)
9: Delta Rd - Raffles Quay (Chulia St after 9 PM)
10: Moulmein Rd - Neil Rd
11: Moulmein Rd - Tg Pagar
12: Paya Lebar Airport - Raffles Quay (Bras Basah Rd after 7 PM)
14: Kim Keat Ave - Raffles Quay (Bras Basah Rd after 7 PM)
15/16: Katong - Finlayson Green (Chulia St after 7 PM)
17: Holland Village - Raffles Quay (Bras Basah Rd after 7 PM)
18: Tampenis (sic) - Finlayson Green (Bras Basah Rd after 7 PM)
18A: S'goon Gdn Est - Finlayson Green (Bras Basah Rd after 7 PM)
19: Thomson Rd or Whitley Rd - Tg Pagar (Bras Basah Rd after 7 PM)
20: Siglap - Finlayson Green (Chulia St after 9.35 PM)
22/23: Telok Kurau Rd - Chulia St (Tg Pagar after 7 PM)
23A: Siglap Rd - Chulia St
24: Britannia Club - Portsdown Rd -
The situation for the Chinese Bus Companies in 1964 was also tabulated in the above mentioned book.
Changi Bus Co. Ltd.
1: Changi Pt - Capitol Theatre
1A: every 5th bus on sv. 1 to divert from Changi Rd along Tanah Merah Rd, Nicoll Dr and Telok Paku Rd before rejoining Upp Changi Rd
2: Guillemard Rd/Lim Ah Woo Rd triangle green - Changi Pt
3: Guillemard Rd/Lim Ah Woo Rd triangle green - Kg Batak
3A: Guillemard Rd/Lim Ah Woo Rd triangle green - Kaki Bukit Settlement
4: Changi Village - Telok Paku English Sch.
5: Changi Village - Lloyd Leas Est.
Easy Bus Co.
1: Junction of Alexandra Rd/Pasir Panjang Rd - Jurong Rd near junction with Bt Timah Rd via Portsdown Rd and North Buona Vista Rd
2: Same as sv. 1 but via Ayer Rajah Rd and Clementi Rd
Green Bus Co. Ltd.
1: Queen St - Johore Bahru
2: Queen St - Lim Chu Kang Rd
3: Queen St - Jurong Rd 18th milestone
4: Ban San St - Mandai
5: Queen St - Princess Elizabeth Est.
6: Queen St - Holland Rd/Bt Timah Rd junction
7: Queen St - Dunearn Rd/Swiss Club Rd junction
8: Tengah RAF Station - Union Jack Club (Fri, Sat & Sun only)
9: Tg Kling - Jurong Rd/Jln Boon Lay junction
Hock Lee Amalgamated Bus Co. Ltd.
1: South Canal Rd - Ulu Pandan
2: South Canal Rd - Holland Rd 5th milestone
2A: South Canal Rd - Holland Village
3: Alexandra Rd/Telok Blangah Rd junction - Jln Kubor
3A: South Canal Rd - Alexandra Rd/Telok Blangah Rd junction (6am to 7pm only)
4: South Canal Rd - Queensway/Holland Rd/Farrer Rd circus
5: South Canal Rd - Great World Amusement Park (7pm to 12.30am only)
6: South Canal Rd - Seng Poh Rd (loop)
7: South Canal Rd - Henderson Rd
8: South Canal Rd - Redhill Rd
9: Park Rd - Margaret Dr
10: Holland Village - Park Rd
11: South Canal Rd - Alexandra Hill Est.
Katong-Bedok Bus Service Co. Ltd.
1: Bedok Rd/Changi Rd junction - Talma Rd at Lor 8
2: East Coast Rd at Bedok Corner - Talma Rd at Lor 8
3: Aida St/Fidelio St junction - Old Airport Rd (loop)
Kg Bahru Bus Service Ltd.
1: Maxwell Rd Market - Kg Bahru Rd/Telok Blangah Rd junction
2: River Valley Rd/Hill St junction - Great World Amusement Park (7pm to 12.30am only)
Keppel Bus Co. Ltd.
1: Keppel Rd (at Tg Pagar) - West Coast Rd 9th milestone
2: West Coast Rd/Kay Hai Rd junction - Jurong Rd 10th milestone
3: Pasir Panjang Rd/Clementi Rd junction - Clementi Rd/Ayer Rajah Rd junction
4: Pasir Panjang Rd/South Buona Vista Rd junction - South Buona Vista Rd/Ayer Rajah Rd junction
Ponggol Bus Service Co.
Ponggol Rd end to Bartley Rd at Mt Vernon with 2 or 3 buses to turn in at St. Joseph's Church, 7 1/2 milestone Upp S'goon Rd
Paya Lebar Bus Service Ltd.
1: Geylang Rd/Paya Lebar Rd junction - Seletat RAF Station or Yio Chu Kang
2: Tampines Rd/Upp S'goon Rd junction - Tampines Rd/Upp Changi Rd junction with deviations via Kuala Loyang at selected timings
3: S'goon Gdn Est - Happy World
4: Geylang Rd/Paya Lebar Rd junction - Paya Lebar Airport
Tay Koh Yat Bus Co. Ltd.
1: Shuttle service for school children only between Mata Gate, Sembawang Rd 15th milestone and Nee Soon Village
2: Hoi How Rd - Rotherham Gate, HM Naval Dockyard
3: Hoi How Rd - Sembawang Rd 15th milestone with 6 buses daily to turn short at Thomson Rd 7 1/2 milestone
5: Hoi How Rd - Royal Naval Air Station, Sembawang
6: Nee Soon Village - Nee Soon Transit Camp
8: Sembawang Hill Est. - Havelock Rd
8A: same as sv. 8 but via Balmoral Rd
9: Paya Lebar Airport - Havelock Rd
10: Bartley Rd/Paya Lebar Rd junction - Ayer Rajah Rd/South Buona Vista Rd junction; 2 buses to work short to Dunearn Rd/Adam Rd junction
10A: same as sv. 10 but via Queenstown
12A: MacPherson Rd/S'goon Rd junction - Paya Lebar Airport
11: Aljunied Rd outside house no. 17 - Upp Aljunied Rd/Upp S'goon Rd junction
14A: Hoi How Rd - Norfolk-Owen SIT Housing Est. (loop) -
The services of STC/ABC/ABS/UBS Bus Cos. since Apr 11, 1971, the day of major bus re-organisation. If you are a member of SINBus, you may refer to this thread at SINBus.