Route Suggestions
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Originally posted by tanjun:
Thanks for the comments pertaining to the new fantasy route 41.
New fantasy route created. Service 198 will be extended at Soon Lee Bus park instead of Boon Lay.
This new fantasy trunk service 198 can provide links to the areas where only feeder service 243 plies to places like Jurong East/West Ave 1. Hence, time is saved to transfer buses at Boon lay interchange.
In addition, it also provides links to other areas like Jurong East Central or Kent Ridge from Jurong West.
It is a good suggestion but bet JW st 61 to St 75 like a bit going a big round. -
I do feel that there is a need to replan Boon Lay feeders
240: Another service, 30M can be created such that it loops at Taman Jurong, without affecting 240, need not have any crossover to parent service, 30, means operational wise, its one service by itself.
242:
Jurong West St 64, Av 4, St 72, Av 5, Pioneer Rd Nth, St 91, and return via St 92, St 91, Pioneer rd North, Av 5, St 72, Av 4, St 64
Passengers who need to go to Jln Boon Lay can take 99
New Service 245 (choose the number):
Jurong West St 64, Boon Lay Way, Upp Jurong Rd, St 93, St 92, St 91 and return via St 93, Upp Jurong Rd, Boon Lay Way, St 64.
Alleviate loads of 242, marginally faster.
243 can be cut into 2 services
243: Jurong West St 64, St 75, St 81, Av 5 Pioneer Rd North and return via Av4, St 71 , St 81, St 75, St 64
244: Jurong West, St 64, St 62, St 61, St 71, Av 5 and return via Pioneer Rd North, Av 4, St 61, St 62, St 64
Bus timings should be planned properly such that 243 and 244 meet at the Av 5 bus stop such that passengers can transfer without ease, free transfer is needed
A slight stop at the bus stop is needed for people to transfer from one bus to another for about half a min, like what the MRT used to be, North South line wait for East West line passengers to board before leaving the station, nobody should lose out significantly as it is only a 1/2 a min wait. That is then a world class transportation, where everything can be synchronised to ensure that the connection is there.
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Originally posted by Scania:
I do feel that there is a need to replan Boon Lay feeders
240: Another service, 30M can be created such that it loops at Taman Jurong, without affecting 240, need not have any crossover to parent service, 30, means operational wise, its one service by itself.
242:
Jurong West St 64, Av 4, St 72, Av 5, Pioneer Rd Nth, St 91, and return via St 92, St 91, Pioneer rd North, Av 5, St 72, Av 4, St 64
Passengers who need to go to Jln Boon Lay can take 99
New Service 245 (choose the number):
Jurong West St 64, Boon Lay Way, Upp Jurong Rd, St 93, St 92, St 91 and return via St 93, Upp Jurong Rd, Boon Lay Way, St 64.
Alleviate loads of 242, marginally faster.
243 can be cut into 2 services
243: Jurong West St 64, St 75, St 81, Av 5 Pioneer Rd North and return via Av4, St 71 , St 81, St 75, St 64
244: Jurong West, St 64, St 62, St 61, St 71, Av 5 and return via Pioneer Rd North, Av 4, St 61, St 62, St 64
Bus timings should be planned properly such that 243 and 244 meet at the Av 5 bus stop such that passengers can transfer without ease, free transfer is needed
A slight stop at the bus stop is needed for people to transfer from one bus to another for about half a min, like what the MRT used to be, North South line wait for East West line passengers to board before leaving the station, nobody should lose out significantly as it is only a 1/2 a min wait. That is then a world class transportation, where everything can be synchronised to ensure that the connection is there.
I agree with your amended svc 242. not many ppl at jln boon lay take 242. they can just take 99 instead.
with regards to svc 243 & 244, that means if a passenger wants to go to st 81 from st 62, they can transfer to svc 243 from svc 244 ? not bad actually
My gut feeling tells that when pioneer station is opened, one of the feeders will be amended or new feeder will introduce. so the route will be something like this:
st 64, st 63, pioneer rd nth, st 91, st 92 and return back to st 91, pioneer rd nth,st 63, st 64
OR
st 64, st 63, upp jrg rd, st 93, st 91, st 92 & back to st 91, st 93, upp jrg rd, st 63, st 64
The purpose here is to serve st 91,st 92 residence to nearest MRT, which is pioneer station instead of BNL...
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Originally posted by Scania:
I do feel that there is a need to replan Boon Lay feeders
240: Another service, 30M can be created such that it loops at Taman Jurong, without affecting 240, need not have any crossover to parent service, 30, means operational wise, its one service by itself.
242:
Jurong West St 64, Av 4, St 72, Av 5, Pioneer Rd Nth, St 91, and return via St 92, St 91, Pioneer rd North, Av 5, St 72, Av 4, St 64
Passengers who need to go to Jln Boon Lay can take 99
New Service 245 (choose the number):
Jurong West St 64, Boon Lay Way, Upp Jurong Rd, St 93, St 92, St 91 and return via St 93, Upp Jurong Rd, Boon Lay Way, St 64.
Alleviate loads of 242, marginally faster.
243 can be cut into 2 services
243: Jurong West St 64, St 75, St 81, Av 5 Pioneer Rd North and return via Av4, St 71 , St 81, St 75, St 64
244: Jurong West, St 64, St 62, St 61, St 71, Av 5 and return via Pioneer Rd North, Av 4, St 61, St 62, St 64
Bus timings should be planned properly such that 243 and 244 meet at the Av 5 bus stop such that passengers can transfer without ease, free transfer is needed
A slight stop at the bus stop is needed for people to transfer from one bus to another for about half a min, like what the MRT used to be, North South line wait for East West line passengers to board before leaving the station, nobody should lose out significantly as it is only a 1/2 a min wait. That is then a world class transportation, where everything can be synchronised to ensure that the connection is there.
The suggestion for 242 and 245 are good. 245 provides a faster link between Boon Lay and St 91 and St 92. However, for 243 and 244's suggestion to be good, I guess we have to wait until LTA implements a new distance related fare system in the future. Or else, transfer will cost more for the commuters to travel within the town Boon Lay itself. I guess environmental factors such as congestion and timings of traffic lights can adversely affect more in terms of the seamless connection between buses as compared to trains. -
What about this:
Svc 244
Boon Lay Interchange - Joo Koon Interchange
Via
Jurong West Central 3
Jalan Boon Lay
Jurong West Ave 4, St 72, St 71, Ave 4
Pioneer Rd North
Upper Jurong Rd
Benoi Rd
Joo Koon Interchange
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Originally posted by Scania:
243 can be cut into 2 services
243: Jurong West St 64, St 75, St 81, Av 5 Pioneer Rd North and return via Av4, St 71 , St 81, St 75, St 64
That is exactly like the old 243, before they split into G & W.
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
What about this:
Svc 244
Boon Lay Interchange - Joo Koon Interchange
Via
Jurong West Central 3
Jalan Boon Lay
Jurong West Ave 4, St 72, St 71, Ave 4
Pioneer Rd North
Upper Jurong Rd
Benoi Rd
Joo Koon Interchange
The Pioneer Rd onwards might be underutilised though. I don't think many of those who live in the JW neighbourhoods actually work in the factories!
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Maybe a trunk service
Service 152
Toa Payoh Interchange - Joo Koon Interchange
Via
Toa Payoh Lor 6 (Toa Payoh Int)
Jalan Toa Payoh
Whitley Rd
Stevens Rd
Bukit Timah Rd
Clementi Rd
Commonwealth Ave West
Boon Lay Way
Jurong Town Hall Rd
PIE
Corporation Rd
Jurong West Ave 2
Jurong West Ave 4
Jurong West St 72/71
Jurong West Ave 4
Pioneer Rd North
Upp Jurong Rd
Benoi Rd
Joo Koon Interchange
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Maybe a trunk service
Service 152
Toa Payoh Interchange - Joo Koon Interchange
Via
Toa Payoh Lor 6 (Toa Payoh Int)
Jalan Toa Payoh
Whitley Rd
Stevens Rd
Bukit Timah Rd
Clementi Rd
Commonwealth Ave West
Boon Lay Way
Jurong Town Hall Rd
PIE
Corporation Rd
Jurong West Ave 2
Jurong West Ave 4
Jurong West St 72/71
Jurong West Ave 4
Pioneer Rd North
Upp Jurong Rd
Benoi Rd
Joo Koon Interchange
Provides links from Toa Payoh interchange to Bukit Timah (157), to Clementi Rd (151, 154 at Jalan Toa Payoh), to Clementi, a little bit of coverage at Jurong East Ave 1.Route mainly duplicates 154 at the start till Clementi. However, this service provides a fast link from Jurong West St 71/72 to Clementi and provides a link to Joo Koon.
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Originally posted by stooper:
The Pioneer Rd onwards might be underutilised though. I don't think many of those who live in the JW neighbourhoods actually work in the factories!
Seriously its very hard to say
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This route suggestion is a minor route amendment to the current service 963.
It will ply Clementi MRT from Commonwealth Ave West then Clementi Rd then AYE instead of going to Clementi Ave 6 then AYE. Provides a link from Clementi to Woodlands. In addition, it provides an alternative service to Harbourfront from Clementi. Besides, this will reduce duplication with service 188.
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Service 50
Ang Mo Kio Interchange - Boon Lay Interchange
Via
Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
Ang Mo Kio Ave 6
Marymount Road
Thomson Road
Lornie Road
Adam Road
Bukit Timah Road
Clementi Road
Clementi Ave 2
Commonwealth Ave West
Boon Lay Way
Jurong East Ave 1/Jurong West Ave 1
Corporation Rd
Jurong West Ave 2
Jalan Boon Lay
Boon Lay Interchange
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Premium 562:
Kaki Bukit Ave 1 to Shenton Way0800 depart everyday
Via:
Kaki Bukit Ave 1
Eunos Link
Jln Eunos
Still Road/Still Road Sth (Express)
ECP
Robinson Rd
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Originally posted by 9800:
Suggestion rotute
From Changi Village..Loyang Ave..Tampines Ave 7.. Tampines Ave 4.. Tampines Ave 5..Tampines Ave 1...Bedok Reservior Rd..Kaki Bukit Ave 1...Kaki Bukit Rd 2 and 1 loop..to Changi Village..
9800this one just integrate current 60 n 9 cna solve it leow. whcih is what ZYXbus had done. ur route however is good idea which sbstransit shd look into to provide more direct inter-town links in the east
ZYX
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i would like to suggest a new 134
134 ANG MO KIO - SC PARK II TER / HARBORFRONT INT
134 will provide
1) links from Science park Ii to North East line stn Harborfront (peak hour only) directional - from harborfront to scince park 6am to 930am. and from scien park Ii to harborfront from 515pm till 8pm
2) off peak end at harborfront ter. suitable for provide direct express route from sgoon and amk to vivo
3) new link from west singapore to north via CTE
4) link for amk ave 10 ppl to vico and also a link for them to NEL via sgoon stn
134 :/ 134M
amk ave 3 - 10 - 1 boundary rd - sgoon ave 3 - upp sgoon rd - bradell rd - CTE - jln bt merah - Lower delta rd - telok blanagh rd, (express pasir panjang road - peak running only) - turn into science park II ( lay over at end of road - or loop) - [eak running only -
peak running - directional based
weekdays 134
from 6am till 930am Ang Mo Kio - Scicene park II ,
from 930am to 515pm Ang Mo kio - Harborfront
weekends 134M
all day sat n sunday - ang mo kio - harborfrontno need to provide the harborfront to scicne park II on saturday. possible low demand.
ZYX
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Originally posted by tanjun:
This route suggestion is a minor route amendment to the current service 963.
It will ply Clementi MRT from Commonwealth Ave West then Clementi Rd then AYE instead of going to Clementi Ave 6 then AYE. Provides a link from Clementi to Woodlands. In addition, it provides an alternative service to Harbourfront from Clementi. Besides, this will reduce duplication with service 188.
wah pro pro u manged to scan the 963 page in bus guide ne dit route details
pro pro
good suggestion i support
however may duplicating with 189 a bits
but clementi to wdl direct bus i likes.
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how about a svc from boon lay or soon lee depot to tampines int ? to serve temasek poly students from west ?
and a svc from Soon lee depot to CCK or bukit panjang (Loop) ?
E.G Svc 4 Soon lee depot to tampines int
Soon Lee depot ,
Jurong West st 93
Jurong west avenue 5
Jurong West avenue 3
Jurong west / east ave 1
PIE
Bedok
Bedok reservoir rd
Tampines avenue 1 / Temasek Poly
Tampines int
or anyone can suggest a shorter & better route , ideally less than 1hr journey
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Something for all the people here to ponder about.
Service 35M
Plys the same route as Service 35 but will ply via Changi Coast Walk to go to NSRCC Sea Sports Centre and SAFRA NSRCC. This service will be a convenient link for people who would like a direct access to these two places without having to walk down Changi Coast Walk.
Service 68M
Plys the same route as Service 68 but will turn at Tampines Street 91 (after Shell Petrol Station) and thereafter, go out to Tampines Avenue 4 heading back to Tampines Interchange. This service should help to get some relief for the current Service 22 and Townlink 293 which sees full loads during after-dismissal hours. -
Originally posted by TWS4793:
Something for all the people here to ponder about.
Service 35M
Plys the same route as Service 35 but will ply via Changi Coast Walk to go to NSRCC Sea Sports Centre and SAFRA NSRCC. This service will be a convenient link for people who would like a direct access to these two places without having to walk down Changi Coast Walk.
Service 68M
Plys the same route as Service 68 but will turn at Tampines Street 91 (after Shell Petrol Station) and thereafter, go out to Tampines Avenue 4 heading back to Tampines Interchange. This service should help to get some relief for the current Service 22 and Townlink 293 which sees full loads during after-dismissal hours.You'll probably just need a 9 seater Hiace for your 35M for most of the time. Unless you can tell SBST the specific time when people from these clubs come out, or the clubs inform SBS of any activites they have such that an ad-hoc 35M can be deployed, it is not feasible.
Do note that Sv 68 was planned such that it serves St 90 something industrial area, and not as a service which serves the people living along the way, that explains why the frequency is not very good at times.
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Service 50
Ang Mo Kio Interchange - Boon Lay Interchange
Via
Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
Ang Mo Kio Ave 6
Marymount Road
Thomson Road
Lornie Road
Adam Road
Bukit Timah Road
Clementi Road
Clementi Ave 2
Commonwealth Ave West
Boon Lay Way
Jurong East Ave 1/Jurong West Ave 1
Corporation Rd
Jurong West Ave 2
Jalan Boon Lay
Boon Lay Interchange
Ya, I am always thinking why there is no service from Boon Lay to Ang Mo Kio. Pple coming or going to this 2 directions need to take the super long distance train.
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Originally posted by TWS4793:
Something for all the people here to ponder about.
Service 35M
Plys the same route as Service 35 but will ply via Changi Coast Walk to go to NSRCC Sea Sports Centre and SAFRA NSRCC. This service will be a convenient link for people who would like a direct access to these two places without having to walk down Changi Coast Walk.There is a shuttle service from Tanah Merah MRT in case you dont know.
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Integrate with Sv 83, 119 and 113
Become Sv 110Punggol Int to Upp Paya Lebar Rd(Loop)
Punggol Int, Punggol Central, Punggol East, Punggol Field, Punggol Rd, Compassvale St, Sengkang East Rd, Sengkang East Way, Rivervale Dr, Sengkang East Ave, Punggol Rd, Hougang Ave 10, Hougang Ave 8, Upper Serangoon Rd, Hougang St 21, Hougang Ave 1, Lor Ah Soo, Hougang St 11, Upp Paya Lebar.... back to PGL Int.SWT Trips: 110A(Kovan Station to Lor Ah Soo) same as 113A <Mon-Fri: 0600-0930, 1730- 2000>
110B(Pgl Int to Sengkang East Way<opp Compass Point>) from 0032 to 0050First Bus: 0500(Mon-Sat), 0515(Sun&PH)
Last Bus: 0015
First Bus to start from Kovan MRT station(twds Lor Ah Soo) at 0515(all days)Frequency: 3-18 mins
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Originally posted by gorby107:
Integrate with Sv 83, 119 and 113
Become Sv 110Punggol Int to Upp Paya Lebar Rd(Loop)
Punggol Int, Punggol Central, Punggol East, Punggol Field, Punggol Rd, Compassvale St, Sengkang East Rd, Sengkang East Way, Rivervale Dr, Sengkang East Ave, Punggol Rd, Hougang Ave 10, Hougang Ave 8, Upper Serangoon Rd, Hougang St 21, Hougang Ave 1, Lor Ah Soo, Hougang St 11, Upp Paya Lebar.... back to PGL Int.SWT Trips: 110A(Kovan Station to Lor Ah Soo) same as 113A <Mon-Fri: 0600-0930, 1730- 2000>
110B(Pgl Int to Sengkang East Way<opp Compass Point>) from 0032 to 0050First Bus: 0500(Mon-Sat), 0515(Sun&PH)
Last Bus: 0015
First Bus to start from Kovan MRT station(twds Lor Ah Soo) at 0515(all days)Frequency: 3-18 mins
The journey very long.... But good accessiblity to Punggol/Sengkang/Hougang Connection.
Another thing : ppl will have the thinking, Better for me to take MRT to Hougang/Kovan transfer to 80 to get to Upper Paya Lebar Rd and transfer to service 53.. or taking 115 from kovan city bus terminal to Hougang Ave 1.
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Originally posted by gorby107:
Integrate with Sv 83, 119 and 113
Become Sv 110Punggol Int to Upp Paya Lebar Rd(Loop)
Punggol Int, Punggol Central, Punggol East, Punggol Field, Punggol Rd, Compassvale St, Sengkang East Rd, Sengkang East Way, Rivervale Dr, Sengkang East Ave, Punggol Rd, Hougang Ave 10, Hougang Ave 8, Upper Serangoon Rd, Hougang St 21, Hougang Ave 1, Lor Ah Soo, Hougang St 11, Upp Paya Lebar.... back to PGL Int.SWT Trips: 110A(Kovan Station to Lor Ah Soo) same as 113A <Mon-Fri: 0600-0930, 1730- 2000>
110B(Pgl Int to Sengkang East Way<opp Compass Point>) from 0032 to 0050First Bus: 0500(Mon-Sat), 0515(Sun&PH)
Last Bus: 0015
First Bus to start from Kovan MRT station(twds Lor Ah Soo) at 0515(all days)Frequency: 3-18 mins
In my opinion, route is rather circuitous but 110 is a well integrated route of services 83, 119, 113.
It improves the links most at Compassvale St to Rivervale Dr, Hougang, and Kovan plus Lor Ah Soo since this route runs quite parallel to 136 except for the Lor Ah Soo and Hougang Ave 1 part.
I am wondering whether DDs can be deployed on 110 during peak hrs if it is to replace 83, 119 and 113.
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My two suggested routes for 25 and 26 plying Chai Chee Industrial Estate instead of New Upper Changi Rd.
