Route Suggestions
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A merger of the existing 153 and 157 to ply from Hougang to Boon Lay. 153's part from Hougang to Bukit Timah is retained while 157 part from Bukit Timah to Boon Lay is retained. In addition, Lor 6 and Lor 4 Toa Payoh to Boon Lay links are still retained from this amendment.
Benefits of the new 157
1. SBS Transit can save some buses to be deployed on other services. I estimate that based on its frequency on 157, 25 buses (18 dds and 7 sds) are needed to be deployed on this new service while currently, at least 28 to 30 buses are needed to deploy both 153 and 157.
2. It provides new links from Hougang, Kovan, Bukit Timah, Toa Payoh, Bukit Batok, Boon Lay.
Disadvantages
1. The whole journey is around 34 stages which is 5 more stages more than the current 157 and 11 more stages than the current 153. Bus drivers will have to drive longer.
2. Some existing links will be broken.
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Originally posted by tanjun:
A merger of the existing 153 and 157 to ply from Hougang to Boon Lay. 153's part from Hougang to Bukit Timah is retained while 157 part from Bukit Timah to Boon Lay is retained. In addition, Lor 6 and Lor 4 Toa Payoh to Boon Lay links are still retained from this amendment.
Benefits of the new 157
1. SBS Transit can save some buses to be deployed on other services. I estimate that based on its frequency on 157, 25 buses (18 dds and 7 sds) are needed to be deployed on this new service while currently, at least 28 to 30 buses are needed to deploy both 153 and 157.
2. It provides new links from Hougang, Kovan, Bukit Timah, Toa Payoh, Bukit Batok, Boon Lay.
Disadvantages
1. The whole journey is around 34 stages which is 5 more stages more than the current 157 and 11 more stages than the current 153. Bus drivers will have to drive longer.
2. Some existing links will be broken.
I think the merged between 153 & 157 will cause a few displease...Especially ppl from the Lornie Rd Sector (MacRitchie Reservoir) to Adam Rd (Food Centre) coz ppl maybe to jurong will have to walk to the bus stop at the police centre which is a bit further compared to the bus stop just next to the food centre. Also I think that passengers will not want to travel long to get to Bukit Timah Rd... -
134
Pasir Ris to Bukit Batok
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Elias Rd
Pasir Ris Dr 1
Pasir Ris Dr 12
Tampines Ave 10
Tampines Rd
Upp Serangoon Rd
U turn!
Yio Chu Kang Rd
Serangoon Garden Way
Lor Chuan
Ang Mo Kio Ave 1
CTE
Jln Toa Payoh
Whitley Rd
PIE
Toh Guan Rd
Jurong East Central
Bt Batok Ave 1
Bt Batok Central (TURN LEFT!) -
Sungei Kadut Industrial Service 305
- Choa Chu Kang Interchange
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
- Choa Chu Kang Drive
- Choa Chu Kang North 5
- Choa Chu Kang Street 52
- Choa Chu Kang North 6
- Choa Chu Kang Way
- Sungei Kadut Loop
- Sungei Kadut Drive
- Sungei Kadut Street 1
- Sungei Kadut Street 4
- Sungei Kadut Street 1
- Sungei Kadut Street 3
- Sungei Kadut Loop (loop)
- Choa Chu Kang Way
- Choa Chu Kang North 6
- Choa Chua Kang Street 52
- Choa Chu Kang North 5
- Choa Chu Kang Drive
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
- Choa Chu Kang Interchange
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SMRT Bus 979 - Bukit Panjang Interchange to Changi Village (Changi Beach lovers or infamous Nasi Lemak lovers)
- Choa Chu Kang Interchange
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 (non-stop)
- Choa Chu Kang Way
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
- Teck Whye Ave
- Choa Chu Kang Road
- Bukit Panjang Road
- Pending Road
- Petir Road
- Daily Farm Road
- BKE
- PIE
- Lorong 6 Toa Payoh
- PIE
- Simei Ave
- Xilin Ave
- Changi Coast Road
- Nicoll Drive
- Telok Paku Road
- Changi Village Terminal
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Originally posted by Ajen:
SMRT Bus 979 - Bukit Panjang Interchange to Changi Village (Changi Beach lovers or infamous Nasi Lemak lovers)
- Choa Chu Kang Interchange
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 (non-stop)
- Choa Chu Kang Way
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
- Teck Whye Ave
- Choa Chu Kang Road
- Bukit Panjang Road
- Pending Road
- Petir Road
- Daily Farm Road
- BKE
- PIE
- Lorong 6 Toa Payoh
- PIE
- Simei Ave
- Xilin Ave
- Changi Coast Road
- Nicoll Drive
- Telok Paku Road
- Changi Village Terminal
you either change it to a loop service by going in to CACC or get a mind of changing it to go by this way:
Bt Panjang Int
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PIE (Whitley Rd)
PIE(Jln Toa Payoh)
PIE (Jln Kolam Ayer)
Simei Ave
Simei St 3
Simei St 1
Simei Rd
Upp Changi Rd East
Upp Changi Rd Nth
Loyang Way
Loyang Ave
Cranwell Rd
Netheravon Rd
Changi Village Rd
Telok Paku Rd
Nicoll Dr
CACC(Looping point)
Nicoll Dr
Telok Paku Rd
then follow route back -
20
Bedok Int to Tanjong Rhu
(Loop)Bedok Int
Bedok Nth Ave 1
Bedok Nth St 3*
Bedok Nth St 2
Bedok Nth Rd
New Upp Changi Rd
Bedok Sth Ave 3
Bedok Sth Rd
Bedok Sth Ave 1
ECP
Still Rd Sth
Marine Parade Rd
Amber Rd
Mountbatten Rd
Tanjong Katong Rd Sth
ECP
Fort Rd
Tanjong Rhu Rd
Rhu Cross
Tanjong Rhu Rd
Fort Rd
ECP
Tanjong Katong Rd Sth
Mountbatten Rd
Amber Rd
Marine Parade Rd
Still Rd Sth
ECP
Bedok Sth Ave 1
Bedok Sth Rd
Bedok Sth Ave 3
New Upp Changi Rd
Bedok Nth Rd
Bedok Nth Ave 2
Bedok Nth St 3^
Bedok Nth Ave 1
Bedok Int*Follows:225G
^Follows 225W
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134SBST East District Depot(AMDEP) to Potong Pasir(Loop)
- Ang Mo Kio Depot
- Ang Mo Kio St 63
- Ang Mo Kio St 64
- Ang Mo Kio St 62
- Ang Mo Kio Ave 9
- Ang Mo Kio Ave 4
- Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
- Ang Mo Kio Ave 10
- Ang Mo Kio Ave 1
- Bishan Rd
- Bishan St 22
- Marymount Rd
- Thomson Rd
- PIE(Jln Toa Payoh)
- Upp Serangoon Rd
- Potong Pasir Ave 1
- Potong Pasir Ave 2
- Potong Pasir Ave 3
- Potong Pasir Ave 1
- Upp Serangoon Rd
- Whampoh Nth
- Serangoon Rd
- PIE(Jln Toa Payoh)
- Whitley Rd
- Thomson Rd
- Marymount Rd
- Bishan St 22
- Bishan Rd
- Ang Mo Kio Ave 1
- Ang Mo Kio Ave 10
- Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
- Ang Mo Kio Ave 4
- Ang Mo Kio Ave 9
- Ang Mo Kio St 62
- Ang Mo Kio St 64
- Ang Mo Kio St 63
- Ang Mo Kio Depot
How was it?
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Originally posted by SBS8033D:
20
Bedok Int to Tanjong Rhu
(Loop)Bedok Int
Bedok Nth Ave 1
Bedok Nth St 3*
Bedok Nth St 2
Bedok Nth Rd
New Upp Changi Rd
Bedok Sth Ave 3
Bedok Sth Rd
Bedok Sth Ave 1
ECP
Still Rd Sth
Marine Parade Rd
Amber Rd
Mountbatten Rd
Tanjong Katong Rd Sth
ECP
Fort Rd
Tanjong Rhu Rd
Rhu Cross
Tanjong Rhu Rd
Fort Rd
ECP
Tanjong Katong Rd Sth
Mountbatten Rd
Amber Rd
Marine Parade Rd
Still Rd Sth
ECP
Bedok Sth Ave 1
Bedok Sth Rd
Bedok Sth Ave 3
New Upp Changi Rd
Bedok Nth Rd
Bedok Nth Ave 2
Bedok Nth St 3^
Bedok Nth Ave 1
Bedok Int*Follows:225G
^Follows 225W
Bedok no space lah.....
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Originally posted by Ajen:
SMRT Bus 979 - Bukit Panjang Interchange to Changi Village (Changi Beach lovers or infamous Nasi Lemak lovers)
- Choa Chu Kang Interchange
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 (non-stop)
- Choa Chu Kang Way
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
- Teck Whye Ave
- Choa Chu Kang Road
- Bukit Panjang Road
- Pending Road
- Petir Road
- Daily Farm Road
- BKE
- PIE
- Lorong 6 Toa Payoh
- PIE
- Simei Ave
- Xilin Ave
- Changi Coast Road
- Nicoll Drive
- Telok Paku Road
- Changi Village Terminal
Still okay, but is it CCK or Bukit Panjang Int, clarify
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Originally posted by jayh272416:
134
Pasir Ris to Bukit Batok
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Elias Rd
Pasir Ris Dr 1
Pasir Ris Dr 12
Tampines Ave 10
Tampines Rd
Upp Serangoon Rd
U turn!
Yio Chu Kang Rd
Serangoon Garden Way
Lor Chuan
Ang Mo Kio Ave 1
CTE
Jln Toa Payoh
Whitley Rd
PIE
Toh Guan Rd
Jurong East Central
Bt Batok Ave 1
Bt Batok Central (TURN LEFT!)Maybe 934, introduce Habits for Pasir Ris
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
Bedok no space lah.....
no space meh? this svc going use SP bus leh
then I tot the former 506 berth can put 20?
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
Bedok no space lah.....
This thread is on route suggestions, most (if not all) of which are never going to be implemented. So I suggest that we stop all these comments about space in interchanges and let the imagination run. Even if there is no space now, who knows about the future?
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Svc 63 can be extended to terminate at Bt Merah Interchange instead of looping at Rumah Tinggi via Jln Bt Merah and Bt Merah Ctrl after the existing route.
Also, can consider merging 98/98M and 333 to form a newly 98/98M which plies Jurong East St 13, Jurong East Ctrl (Blk 134), Jurong Town Hall Rd, Toh Guan Rd (IMM), Jurong East Ave 1 (Parts of the existing routes) and Jurong East St 32 (Both directions - For directions towards Jurong Pier Rd and Corporation Rd can add bus stops) and continuue to the existing route.
The advantage shall be those ppl in Jurong West St 51, Taman Jurong/Lakeside MRT will have a direct link to IMM while those living in JE/JW Ave 1 will have another alternative besides 502 to IMM. But it will not ply Jurong East Ctrl (The area near the mosque), Boon Lay Way (Behind JE Int) and the bus stop outside Blk 347 in Jurong East Ave 1 so I wonder how will it be affected.
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
Still okay, but is it CCK or Bukit Panjang Int, clarify
sorry , its from Choa Chu Kang Interchange. ^^
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Originally posted by tanjun:
A merger of the existing 153 and 157 to ply from Hougang to Boon Lay. 153's part from Hougang to Bukit Timah is retained while 157 part from Bukit Timah to Boon Lay is retained. In addition, Lor 6 and Lor 4 Toa Payoh to Boon Lay links are still retained from this amendment.
Benefits of the new 157
1. SBS Transit can save some buses to be deployed on other services. I estimate that based on its frequency on 157, 25 buses (18 dds and 7 sds) are needed to be deployed on this new service while currently, at least 28 to 30 buses are needed to deploy both 153 and 157.
2. It provides new links from Hougang, Kovan, Bukit Timah, Toa Payoh, Bukit Batok, Boon Lay.
Disadvantages
1. The whole journey is around 34 stages which is 5 more stages more than the current 157 and 11 more stages than the current 153. Bus drivers will have to drive longer.
2. Some existing links will be broken.
Then be prepared for tons of complains. 153 is one service which you should never cut, every sector of 153 is generally well utilised except for the few stops before the interchanges.
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Originally posted by tanjun:
It will be better if this service can go into Woodlands estate such as Marsling Lane. Then again, it will incur additional fare stages.This service duplicates with 187 from stage 19.5 to stage 36.5. After that, it runs parallel with 188 from stage 12.5 to stage 23.5.
However, this service provide a direct link from Woodlands to Dover Rd and Clementi MRT which currently only 963 serves from Woodlands to ITE Dover.
Plus, it improves links at Depot Rd.
But to get to Bukit Merah from Woodlands, I will rather take 961 than 953 due to fewer fare stages.
For demand wise, that will depend on the commuters to decide.
Anyway, gd job done.
thanks :)
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Originally posted by Scania:
Then be prepared for tons of complains. 153 is one service which you should never cut, every sector of 153 is generally well utilised except for the few stops before the interchange.
153 is a service that in my opinion, is good in terms of "directness" from Hougang to Queensway by looking at its fare stages as an indication.
For the 153's part, the portion between Queensway to Bukit Merah is cut. The reason is that there are quite a number of alternative services available to reach it from 153's rest of the routes although they are not foolproof.
There is 132 from Upp S'goon Rd (Hougang) to Bukit Merah no doubt 153 is still the fastest.
There is 147 from Upp S'goon Rd (S'goon) to Jln Bukit Merah and Queensway (Queensway Shopping Ctr).
There is 51 from Upp S'goon Rd (Hougang) to Queensway no doubt 153 is stil the fastest.
There is 93 along Braddell Rd to Farrer Rd and Queensway.
There is 48 from Bt Timah Rd to Farrer Rd.
There is 105 from Toa Payoh to Queensway.
The stretch along Lor 6 Toa Payoh and Lor 4 Toa Payoh and along Upp S'goon Rd (Kovan) will suffer the loss of link to Farrer Rd and Queensway.
Just my 2 cents worth of thought.
Anyway, thanks for your feedback and time.
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I suggested this sometime ago but nobody commented. So I thought of posting here again. I think it would be quite a good service. 967: Woodlands to Marina Centre (Loop) Woodlands Regional Int Woodlands Ave 2 Woodlands Ave 1 Woodlands Ave 12 SLE Upp Thomson Road Thomson Road Balestier Rd Lavender St Crawford St Republic Ave Republic Blvd Raffles Ave Nicoll Highway Raffles Blvd Temasek Blvd Temasek Ave Raffles Blvd The service would then make its return journey after Raffles Blvd. Unlike 960, 967 would serve the Upper Thomson corridor, where there is no direct bus link to Woodlands. It will also serve the Balestier area and Lavender St, then go through the Crawford Underpass towards Marina Centre. This service can also be extended to the future Integrated Resort when it is fully developed. 968: Woodlands to Bt Merah Woodlands Regional Int Woodlands Ave 2 Woodlands Ave 5 Woodlands Ave 12 SLE Upp Thomson Road Thomson Road Newton Rd Scotts Rd Irwell Bank Rd Havelock Rd Ganges Ave Alexandra Rd Henderson Rd Bt Merah Ctrl Bt Merah Int
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Originally posted by sbst_no_162:
I suggested this sometime ago but nobody commented. So I thought of posting here again. I think it would be quite a good service.
967: Woodlands to Marina Centre (Loop)
Woodlands Regional Int
Woodlands Ave 2
Woodlands Ave 1
Woodlands Ave 12
SLE
Upp Thomson Road
Thomson Road
Balestier Rd
Lavender St
Crawford St
Republic Ave
Republic Blvd
Raffles Ave
Nicoll Highway
Raffles Blvd
Temasek Blvd
Temasek Ave
Raffles BlvdThe service would then make its return journey after Raffles Blvd.
Unlike 960, 967 would serve the Upper Thomson corridor, where there is no direct bus link to Woodlands. It will also serve the Balestier area and Lavender St, then go through the Crawford Underpass towards Marina Centre. This service can also be extended to the future Integrated Resort when it is fully developed.
Regarding about 967, the total number of fare stages is around 56 (about 28 for each direction) since it is a looping service.
The service is pretty direct in terms of the way it goes from Woodlands to Marina Centre via SLE, Republic Blvd.
Advantages of 967
1. Provides links between eastern side of Woodlands Ave 1 - currently served by 901 only, Upper Thomson, Thomson, Balestier - no direct service to Woodlands and Marina Centre, Lavender and Marina Centre.
2. Making use of SLE, Republic Blvd ensures fast and smooth travel from Woodlands to Marina Centre. Around 9 - 10 stages are used in express sectors.
Disadvantages of 967
1. 967 doesn't pass by any more MRT lines other than Woodlands MRT at the beginning of the journey. This means that people will not use 967 as a service for transfer to the MRT. Less demand perhaps?
2. New service means more buses have to be deployed? Higher costs for the operators?
Just a note: The northern part of Upper Thomson has 169 to Woodlands. Neverthless, your 967 is faster than the current 169.
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Originally posted by sinicker:
it is very hard for buses to go straight from ave 4 to st 41.
left lane is to go straight/turn left.
middle lane is to go straight/turn right.
right lane is to turn right.
this junction is mostly full of vehicles either turning right or left. very few go straight and most often, the middle and left lane block motorists from going straight.
accidents have happened when S168 DD turns left, S21 DD turns right on middle lane and a motorcyclist manages to squeeze and go str8. but when he enters a junction, a car tries to outrun the 168 bus and make its right turn from st 41 to library. BANG!
this junction is conveniently a bird's eye view from my house. once i was waiting at this junction and a motorcyclist hit a car and the motorcyclist fly upwards just 10 metres infront of me. even i as a driver, use st 21, st 24, left turn ave 7 keep right, st 42 to avoid this seemingly dangerous way of going straight.I oso met with an accident (as in I'm on a bus when there's a bus driver)when I was going for my sports day
It happened like this
the bus captain actually see "No one",so the bus move(The bus needs two lanes to turn left)
Then suddenly the Mazda move so fast then Mazda driver wanted to squeeze the hole so that the Mazda can move. then the bus move then "Bang" the left back door of the car.The car driver still wanted ransom from the bus captain.
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Originally posted by tvcnq:
This thread is on route suggestions, most (if not all) of which are never going to be implemented. So I suggest that we stop all these comments about space in interchanges and let the imagination run. Even if there is no space now, who knows about the future?
ok, sorry..................
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SBS transit service 164 [yio chu kang - kent ridge]:
- yio chu kang ter
- ang mo kio ave 9
- ang mo kio ave 4
- ang mo kio ave 5
- ang mo kio ave 6
- ang mo kio ave 3
- CTE [express]
- PIE [jln toa payoh]
- whitley rd
- bukit timah rd
- farrer rd
- holland rd [non-stop]
- holland ave
- commonwealth ave
- north bouna vista rd
- lower kent ridge rd
- kent ridge crescent
- kent ridge ter
purpose of route: to provide a fast link from ang mo kio - kent ridge without changing of NS > EW > svc 95 or 96. i would accept comments and feedbacks. thk you.
depot control: AMDEP/ARBP
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
ok, sorry..................
Its okay. Peace...
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Originally posted by scaniaB7RLE:
SBS transit service 164 [yio chu kang - kent ridge]:
- yio chu kang ter
- ang mo kio ave 9
- ang mo kio ave 4
- ang mo kio ave 5
- ang mo kio ave 6
- ang mo kio ave 3
- CTE [express]
- PIE [jln toa payoh]
- whitley rd
- bukit timah rd
- farrer rd
- holland rd [non-stop]
- holland ave
- commonwealth ave
- north bouna vista rd
- lower kent ridge rd
- kent ridge crescent
- kent ridge ter
purpose of route: to provide a fast link from ang mo kio - kent ridge without changing of NS > EW > svc 95 or 96. i would accept comments and feedbacks. thk you.
depot control: AMDEP/ARBP
The part from Bt Timah road onwards seem to duplicate 48 a lot leh, especially since 48 is going to be extended to Kent Ridge soon.