SBS Transit is slow
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I had two unpleasant encounters with SBS Transit over the past few months I would like to highlight. I noticed that lately SBS Transit Bus Captains tend to drive very slowly e.g. around 30KPH to 35KPH when the road is all clear. It can really be very irritating and frustrating for those who are in a hurry to work or appointments. I understand that Bus Captains will be penalized if they arrive too early. But by driving slowly they are indirectly penalizing us commuters who turn to public transport as it is cheap. Bus Captains also tend to purposely slow down at traffic Junctions when the traffic light is green in hope of it changing to red so that they can delay time. Also the frequencies of SBS Transit buses are extremely long and on some services very short. I wonder why there is this imbalance not counting short loop services like service 200.
On the other had I am very surprised with the standard of service SMRT provides. The Bus Captains drives at reasonable speeds such as 50-55KPH which also does not put passengers at risk of accidents. In fact driving slowly does not mean that it is safe as the bus might be hogging the road and cause vehicles behind the bus to overtake and in the case when the driver is unable to see what is coming in the other direction on a two way road, accidents might occur. The frequency of SMRT buses are very reasonable at 5-7minutes during peak hours and 10-12 minutes during off peak hours from what I have observed. Compared to 10-12 minutes during off-peak hours for SBS Transit buses and 14-18 minutes for SBS Transit buses.
*The figures and timing above are estimated and may vary from service to service. -
SMRT bus fast???
Yeah, until Sv 67 anyohow skip bus stop along Dunearn & Bt Timah Rd -
And they like to chiong very fast , even on ExpresswaysOriginally posted by sbst275:SMRT bus fast???
Yeah, until Sv 67 anyohow skip bus stop along Dunearn & Bt Timah Rd -
But personally I think that SMRT driving speed is ok but SBS Transit is slow.
No Offences to SBS Transit lovers -
And you don't like that?Originally posted by Volvo Olympian:And they like to chiong very fast , even on Expressways
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Of cos i like , but sometimes too fast oso no good liaoOriginally posted by SBS9818A:And you don't like that? 
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where got too fast one? max onli 60kmph unless the speed limiter spoil liao
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Sometimes can even go up to 80km/h...Originally posted by XTransbus:where got too fast one? max onli 60kmph unless the speed limiter spoil liao
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I think you'd better double check that... SMRT is the one with bad frequencies... Up to 30min for 922! SBST usually have below 8 mins for feeder services at peak hours. With the best at 1minute...Originally posted by buses_cool:The frequency of SMRT buses are very reasonable at 5-7minutes during peak hours and 10-12 minutes during off peak hours from what I have observed. Compared to 10-12 minutes during off-peak hours for SBS Transit buses and 14-18 minutes for SBS Transit buses. -
Service 922 , 30 mins becos 1 bus only liao , if 2 or more sure the frequency will be cut down....and yeah , sometimes SMRT have bad frequency as far as i noticeOriginally posted by stooper:I think you'd better double check that... SMRT is the one with bad frequencies... Up to 30min for 922! SBST usually have below 8 mins for feeder services at peak hours. With the best at 1minute... -
But after complaints about 922 in ST forum, they still won't make it better...Originally posted by Volvo Olympian:Service 922 , 30 mins becos 1 bus only liao , if 2 or more sure the frequency will be cut down.... -
Are you sure about the frequency and speed? SBST drivers don't really road-hog nowadays. Not only that, frequency-wise...Originally posted by buses_cool:I had two unpleasant encounters with SBS Transit over the past few months I would like to highlight. I noticed that lately SBS Transit Bus Captains tend to drive very slowly e.g. around 30KPH to 35KPH when the road is all clear. It can really be very irritating and frustrating for those who are in a hurry to work or appointments. I understand that Bus Captains will be penalized if they arrive too early. But by driving slowly they are indirectly penalizing us commuters who turn to public transport as it is cheap. Bus Captains also tend to purposely slow down at traffic Junctions when the traffic light is green in hope of it changing to red so that they can delay time. Also the frequencies of SBS Transit buses are extremely long and on some services very short. I wonder why there is this imbalance not counting short loop services like service 200.
On the other had I am very surprised with the standard of service SMRT provides. The Bus Captains drives at reasonable speeds such as 50-55KPH which also does not put passengers at risk of accidents. In fact driving slowly does not mean that it is safe as the bus might be hogging the road and cause vehicles behind the bus to overtake and in the case when the driver is unable to see what is coming in the other direction on a two way road, accidents might occur. The frequency of SMRT buses are very reasonable at 5-7minutes during peak hours and 10-12 minutes during off peak hours from what I have observed. Compared to 10-12 minutes during off-peak hours for SBS Transit buses and 14-18 minutes for SBS Transit buses.
*The figures and timing above are estimated and may vary from service to service.
334 can have 3 min frequency during peak hour. Not visible on svcs like 190. 190 is a very good service, but SMRT doesn't seem to be improving its frequency. Did you notice the never-ending queues? Not only that, it is understandable you feel this way. Perhaps it is the place where you live that could be the reason, where SMRT is predominant. But I assure you SBST frequencies are better. No doubt about that... -
Both bus companies have their fair share of "fast" and "slow" services. It all depends on timesheet, deployment and some other factors which we don't know.
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Just post this in the complaints thread, its much neater.
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OBVIOUSLY this is a damm damm damm subjective POV...but nvmOriginally posted by buses_cool:I had two unpleasant encounters with SBS Transit over the past few months I would like to highlight. I noticed that lately SBS Transit Bus Captains tend to drive very slowly e.g. around 30KPH to 35KPH when the road is all clear. It can really be very irritating and frustrating for those who are in a hurry to work or appointments. I understand that Bus Captains will be penalized if they arrive too early. But by driving slowly they are indirectly penalizing us commuters who turn to public transport as it is cheap. Bus Captains also tend to purposely slow down at traffic Junctions when the traffic light is green in hope of it changing to red so that they can delay time. Also the frequencies of SBS Transit buses are extremely long and on some services very short. I wonder why there is this imbalance not counting short loop services like service 200.
On the other had I am very surprised with the standard of service SMRT provides. The Bus Captains drives at reasonable speeds such as 50-55KPH which also does not put passengers at risk of accidents. In fact driving slowly does not mean that it is safe as the bus might be hogging the road and cause vehicles behind the bus to overtake and in the case when the driver is unable to see what is coming in the other direction on a two way road, accidents might occur. The frequency of SMRT buses are very reasonable at 5-7minutes during peak hours and 10-12 minutes during off peak hours from what I have observed. Compared to 10-12 minutes during off-peak hours for SBS Transit buses and 14-18 minutes for SBS Transit buses.
*The figures and timing above are estimated and may vary from service to service.
yes SBST r slow...in terms of their schedule...they are given abit more time compared to SMRT as SMRT had shortage of buses so nid to chiong... and i dun really find SMRT freq good as compared to their demand while SBST svc wif bad freq LIKE 200...sometimes, i stress sometimes... the demand cannot make it...
AND HOR!
it is DAMM UNFAIR to say that they tent to slow down at junction because it is the company policy to slow down and such practises actually cuts down the accident rate by ALOT!... if u would like to conduct an accident study on both companies..u would realise tat the chionging style of SMRT sometimes isn;t very good... -
seriously i feel tat BUS PLUS should be deployed as if we send 2 12m buses...the demand is not there...but if onli 1, the freq not there...so 2 bus-plus like the current 921 can better rite?Originally posted by stooper:But after complaints about 922 in ST forum, they still won't make it better... -
Tell us something we don't know.
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Why does the Bus Captain drive so slowly?Originally posted by buses_cool:I had two unpleasant encounters with SBS Transit over the past few months I would like to highlight. I noticed that lately SBS Transit Bus Captains tend to drive very slowly e.g. around 30KPH to 35KPH when the road is all clear. It can really be very irritating and frustrating for those who are in a hurry to work or appointments. I understand that Bus Captains will be penalized if they arrive too early. But by driving slowly they are indirectly penalizing us commuters who turn to public transport as it is cheap. Bus Captains also tend to purposely slow down at traffic Junctions when the traffic light is green in hope of it changing to red so that they can delay time. Also the frequencies of SBS Transit buses are extremely long and on some services very short. I wonder why there is this imbalance not counting short loop services like service 200. -
Originally posted by samtlk:
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Originally posted by ditzy:Tell us something we don't know.
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Clearly something has gone wrongOriginally posted by Volvo Olympian:Sometimes can even go up to 80km/h... -
malaysian coaches go at 90kmph. anyway back to the topic, if there is double decks, the freqency may be slightly far more apart.
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they are intercity express routes, no choice ma...Originally posted by XTransbus:malaysian coaches go at 90kmph. anyway back to the topic, if there is double decks, the freqency may be slightly far more apart. -
to slow down when approaching a junction is a good practice, because a junction and a green signal is considered a road hazard...
A speed of about 30-40kmph is reasonable, but when the vehicle is at the final arrow before the junction, you may speed up provided the traffic signal is green...
So, these BC isnt right or wrong.. -
no idea y the captain drive so slowly ...Originally posted by samtlk:
but my mum, she used to take bus 90 from the paya lebar airbase.
if you guys know, 90travels from toa payoh n loop at the airbase.
She says sometimes the bus will stop at the loop area and sometimes the bus will drive exceptionally slooooooooowly in the afternoon....