Trivia About Singapore Buses/Bus-Related Topics
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Paiseh paiseh, yeah, Scania front.Originally posted by Volvo Olympian:Since when did ex-SBS3572Y has a Merc Front? I think u mean the Scania front?
the accident happens in 2001 if i could remember..
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techncially one shoudl say Alexander P front with a scania badge mssing.
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yesOriginally posted by eX.A.K.R.:Here's one that really will get you digging into the history books, and one that most people would had never known about...
The first air-conditioned buses in Singapore were bought in not by SBS, not by TIBS, and not by any other private bus company, but by...
Singapore Traction Company (STC)!
Yes, STC brought a fleet of Isuzus (if I'm not wrong, their last mass purchases before they went belly-up in 1971), and two of the buses (registered STC 1 and STC 2, if I'm not wrong) were fitted with air-conditioning. These two are, rightfully, the first air-conditioned buses ever in Singapore, and also the first air-conditioned public buses in Singapore. The fate of these two buses after the fall of STC is pretty much unknown. Whether it survived long enough to become part of SBS' (now SBS Transit) first fleet of buses is unclear, but if it did, then it could also rightfully claim the title of SBS' first air-conditioned buses in it's fleet, way before the air-conditioned OF1413s, CAC "Baco" Victories, the demonstartor B10M with air-conditioning (all appearing around the mid-1980s), and so on.
very good
and the first DD was a priavtely owned one circa 1920s. ran orchard rd.
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"PS" front.Originally posted by ZYX2005:techncially one shoudl say Alexander P front with a scania badge mssing.
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The Isuzu BR351P were not STC's last purchase. They were, however, the first Japanese CBU buses in Singapore, new in 1962. STC also bought Mitsubishi and Nissan Diesel RX102K3/4R94 buses, which were their last purchase circa. 1967-69. Most of the Isuzus did not survive long enough to be taken into the stock of SBS in 1973 as they were considered old by that time. They were all scrapped but some were converted into moblie canteens and left to rust at some ulu-ulu bus terminals.
STC 1&2, despite having the luxury of AC, did not go down well with the locals. Somehow, ppl dislike the AC and they were soon pulled out of service and used for special charters only. Records show that these 2 were passed on to Associated Bus Co. Although there were at least 3 Isuzus which survived long enough to take SBS regos, it's more probable that the 2 buses were scrapped.Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:Here's one that really will get you digging into the history books, and one that most people would had never known about...
The first air-conditioned buses in Singapore were bought in not by SBS, not by TIBS, and not by any other private bus company, but by...
Singapore Traction Company (STC)!
Yes, STC brought a fleet of Isuzus (if I'm not wrong, their last mass purchases before they went belly-up in 1971), and two of the buses (registered STC 1 and STC 2, if I'm not wrong) were fitted with air-conditioning. These two are, rightfully, the first air-conditioned buses ever in Singapore, and also the first air-conditioned public buses in Singapore. The fate of these two buses after the fall of STC is pretty much unknown. Whether it survived long enough to become part of SBS' (now SBS Transit) first fleet of buses is unclear, but if it did, then it could also rightfully claim the title of SBS' first air-conditioned buses in it's fleet, way before the air-conditioned OF1413s, CAC "Baco" Victories, the demonstartor B10M with air-conditioning (all appearing around the mid-1980s), and so on. -
The worst bus parking lot in interchange:
Awards to :
TAMPINES interchange, most back hit back, high accident rate in interchange, reverse hit reverse.
BISHAN interchange, same- reverse hit reverse plus addidtional big blind spot, concrete wall
BUS CAPTAIN VERY STRESSED
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It was not their last purchase per se, but their last such large purchase of buses. Their later purchases, if I'm not wrong, were either small purchases or demonstrators (think Scania L94UB and Dennis Darts/Tridents is to SBS Transit as those Mitsubishi and Nissan Diesel buses are to STC).Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:The Isuzu BR351P were not STC's last purchase. They were, however, the first Japanese CBU buses in Singapore, new in 1962. STC also bought Mitsubishi and Nissan Diesel RX102K3/4R94 buses, which were their last purchase circa. 1967-69. Most of the Isuzus did not survive long enough to be taken into the stock of SBS in 1973 as they were considered old by that time. They were all scrapped but some were converted into moblie canteens and left to rust at some ulu-ulu bus terminals.
STC 1&2, despite having the luxury of AC, did not go down well with the locals. Somehow, ppl dislike the AC and they were soon pulled out of service and used for special charters only. Records show that these 2 were passed on to Associated Bus Co. Although there were at least 3 Isuzus which survived long enough to take SBS regos, it's more probable that the 2 buses were scrapped.
It's interesting to hear that air-conditioned buses were unpopular at that time, but now, we can't live without them, and complain when we have to bear with non air-conditioned buses.
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You are wrong. The Nissans were the last large purchase by STC. There were 174 Nissan buses altogether, even more than the Isuzus with just 137 buses. That's a large order if you ask me. There were no more purchases after the Nissans, not even demos.Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:It was not their last purchase per se, but their last such large purchase of buses. Their later purchases, if I'm not wrong, were either small purchases or demonstrators (think Scania L94UB and Dennis Darts/Tridents is to SBS Transit as those Mitsubishi and Nissan Diesel buses are to STC).
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I think I will go and clarify then. I think I got something wrong...Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:You are wrong. The Nissans were the last large purchase by STC. There were 174 Nissan buses altogether, even more than the Isuzus with just 137 buses. That's a large order if you ask me. There were no more purchases after the Nissans, not even demos.
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Did anyone notice that:
For MK IV (Strider / DM3500) & VO,
If the differences between their rego no. is 6600, then the last letter of both of them are the same.
Eg.
SBS2602
SBS9202 (difference of 6600)
Their last letter are both "B"
SBS2838
SBS9438 (difference of 6600)
Their last letter are both "M"
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HAHA.. Bro.. If you dont know, Bukit Batok Int got the highest rate of accident among all the SMRT INterchanges. I do not actually consider TAM / BIS INt as dangerous. IMO, the dangerous award goes to Toa Payoh and Sengkang Int.Originally posted by davidchua123:The worst bus parking lot in interchange:
Awards to :
TAMPINES interchange, most back hit back, high accident rate in interchange, reverse hit reverse.
BISHAN interchange, same- reverse hit reverse plus addidtional big blind spot, concrete wall
BUS CAPTAIN VERY STRESSED -
Sengkang Int reeks of exhaust fumes and is practically pitch black! The fumes just hang around the area due to poor ventilation. I've yet to see any accidents there but it's easy to imagine such a scenario. Anyway dunno why the hump before entrance to parking lot was removed.Originally posted by sBs_boy:HAHA.. Bro.. If you dont know, Bukit Batok Int got the highest rate of accident among all the SMRT INterchanges. I do not actually consider TAM / BIS INt as dangerous. IMO, the dangerous award goes to Toa Payoh and Sengkang Int.
Hougang Int gets the award for jams, especially just after peak hr when the SPs are resting. There's always this line of buses waiting for space. -
In terms of human traffic, Boon Lay is probably the most stressed, as it serves:
�• Jurong and Tuas Industrial Estates, as well as various other smaller industrial estates
• Jurong West New Town
• N.T.U.
• Various military installations, such as Tengah Air Base, SAFTI, etc.
• ...as well as the various SCDF training camps
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I believe the old Boon Lay was the most jammed. When queueing up for the parking lots, the buses would have to loop 2 times around the parking lots before gettng to park.Originally posted by SBS3625D:Hougang Int gets the award for jams, especially just after peak hr when the SPs are resting. There's always this line of buses waiting for space.
We have yet to see the new Boon Lay interchange being tested to the limits... wait till August... -
Once the BCs even had to park the buses on the right lane at Old Boon Lay Int during peak/non-peak hrs.Originally posted by stooper:I believe the old Boon Lay was the most jammed. When queueing up for the parking lots, the buses would have to loop 2 times around the parking lots before gettng to park.
We have yet to see the new Boon Lay interchange being tested to the limits... wait till August...
No need to wait till August, just see svc 172 bendy & svc 187 bendy arrived the berth at the same time, whole Temp Int jam... -
My bad, you were right. The Nissan purchase, and not the Isuzu purchase, was their last major order. The Nissan purchase came after their purchase of the Isuzus, and they were STC's last purchase before they came crashing down. However, you were wrong on one thing: they did manage to buy a few Mitsubishi demos before that.Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:You are wrong. The Nissans were the last large purchase by STC. There were 174 Nissan buses altogether, even more than the Isuzus with just 137 buses. That's a large order if you ask me. There were no more purchases after the Nissans, not even demos. -
Eeeet. You are wrong again. Please scroll up and read my previous posts. I did mention about the Mitsubishi busesOriginally posted by eX.A.K.R.:My bad, you were right. The Nissan purchase, and not the Isuzu purchase, was their last major order. The Nissan purchase came after their purchase of the Isuzus, and they were STC's last purchase before they came crashing down. However, you were wrong on one thing: they did manage to buy a few Mitsubishi demos before that.
Quote: "STC also bought Mitsubishi and Nissan Diesel RX102K3/4R94 buses, which were their last purchase circa. 1967-69."
And your response to that, meaning you saw what I posted,
Quote: "Their later purchases, if I'm not wrong, were either small purchases or demonstrators (think Scania L94UB and Dennis Darts/Tridents is to SBS Transit as those Mitsubishi and Nissan Diesel buses are to STC)."
Also, there were only 2 Mitsubishi buses, hardly 'a few' if you ask me. These 2 jokers, designed for Japan's climate, were unable to cope with heavy traffic in the tropical heat and suffer frequent breakdowns. Hence, Nissan was the chosen supplier for their next batch of new buses. -
Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:
Maybe I was a bit hazy, but you set it all clear; that was what I intended to mean. Thanks (especially that bit of trivia about those two Mitsubishi buses).
Eeeet. You are wrong again. Please scroll up and read my previous posts. I did mention about the Mitsubishi buses
Quote: [b]"STC also bought Mitsubishi and Nissan Diesel RX102K3/4R94 buses, which were their last purchase circa. 1967-69."
And your response to that, meaning you saw what I posted,
Quote: "Their later purchases, if I'm not wrong, were either small purchases or demonstrators (think Scania L94UB and Dennis Darts/Tridents is to SBS Transit as those Mitsubishi and Nissan Diesel buses are to STC)."
Also, there were only 2 Mitsubishi buses, hardly 'a few' if you ask me. These 2 jokers, designed for Japan's climate, were unable to cope with heavy traffic in the tropical heat and suffer frequent breakdowns. Hence, Nissan was the chosen supplier for their next batch of new buses.[/b]
