Highest demand SMRT services

• MuLaFlaga

  31 Aug 06, 18:33

  Originally posted by TIB1018B:

  For service 178 wait super LONG...and here comes a super SLOW CAC Nissan

  Better then having no 178 coming... . Sometimes they do have cameos of o405s on it too (very very very very very very rare)
  
  Should scrape the Nissans, or sell them to other countries as 2nd hand. I prefer them selling (back to Japan). Then the cash recieved from the sales, go purchase LOW FLOOR CITAROS. I dont remember any bus in the SMRT fleet is Low Floor from front to rear.
• Volvo Olympian

  31 Aug 06, 18:42

  Originally posted by MuLaFlaga:

  Better then having no 178 coming... . Sometimes they do have cameos of o405s on it too (very very very very very very rare)
  
  Should scrape the Nissans, or sell them to other countries as 2nd hand. I prefer them selling (back to Japan). Then the cash recieved from the sales, go purchase LOW FLOOR CITAROS. I dont remember any bus in the SMRT fleet is Low Floor from front to rear.

  the ELBO's actually can be low floor but only the front ... so i consider it as normal bus .....
• muziq bus

  31 Aug 06, 18:44

  Originally posted by vivienlee:

  Sv180 shld convert to a fully 12m bus sv wif bendy cameos, everytime bendy bus not fully packed

  let me talk on this...
  
  180 NEEDS MORE bendies during afternoon peak from BNL to BP
  
  180 need not have bendies from 11am-4pm
  but...if that is possible...
  
  then all services in Singapore deserves 12m
  
  then 21 dont deserve WAB on off peak
  14 dont deserve DD on off peak
  51 as well...etc etc...
  
  get my point?
  
  try takin 180 on the afternoon peak...and then u will understand why...coz i've been there and done that for quite a few times...
• TIB1018B

  31 Aug 06, 18:55

  Originally posted by MuLaFlaga:

  Should scrape the Nissans, or sell them to other countries as 2nd hand. I prefer them selling (back to Japan). Then the cash recieved from the sales, go purchase LOW FLOOR CITAROS. I dont remember any bus in the SMRT fleet is Low Floor from front to rear.

  Sell the OAC ones and scrap the CAC ones that will do
• Volvo Olympian

  31 Aug 06, 18:56

  Originally posted by muziq bus:

  let me talk on this...
  
  180 NEEDS MORE bendies during afternoon peak from BNL to BP
  
  180 need not have bendies from 11am-4pm
  but...if that is possible...
  
  then all services in Singapore deserves 12m
  
  then 21 dont deserve WAB on off peak
  14 dont deserve DD on off peak
  51 as well...etc etc...
  
  get my point?
  
  try takin 180 on the afternoon peak...and then u will understand why...coz i've been there and done that for quite a few times...

  Ok i now agree with you , after i took 180 for so many times ... i guess this service uses full bendy fleet is better .... if 12m buses , think it will be packed like sardines
• 105090

  31 Aug 06, 20:40

  Originally posted by Volvo Olympian:

  Ok i now agree with you , after i took 180 for so many times ... i guess this service uses full bendy fleet is better .... if 12m buses , think it will be packed like sardines

  isnt this what the operator want? to pack the bus as fully as possible? thats called maximising resources, maximising net profit
  
  its not illegal to have standing passengers.....
  its not illegal not to deploy bendy or double deckers.....
  
  sv190 can all use 12m buses also nothing wrong of SMRT...
  sv147 can come every 20mins and has a 90% full DD also like that..
  
  but longer freq, bigger bus means less resources used
• MuLaFlaga

  2 Sep 06, 10:00

  Originally posted by TIB1018B:

  Sell the OAC ones and scrap the CAC ones that will do

  I'd rather they actually scrape all!
• MuLaFlaga

  2 Sep 06, 10:03

  Originally posted by 105090:

  isnt this what the operator want? to pack the bus as fully as possible? thats called maximising resources, maximising net profit
  
  its not illegal to have standing passengers.....
  its not illegal not to deploy bendy or double deckers.....
  
  sv190 can all use 12m buses also nothing wrong of SMRT...
  sv147 can come every 20mins and has a 90% full DD also like that..
  
  but longer freq, bigger bus means less resources used

  Go to Woodlands Regional Interchange and look at how many bendies are deployed on FEEDER SERVICES ?? Although i am not sure about the peak hour flow on those services...
  
  SBS? I feel their buses are rather ok.
• gohby

  3 Sep 06, 13:34

  Originally posted by Volvo Olympian:

  Although the bus is worse of all , but its better , if u use bendies on an low demand feeders , wouldn't you find it wasteful? So i guess rigid buses can do it

  goodness gracious! surely "bus fans" like you can use better terms to describe "rigid bus" it would be especially confusing to others. hmm... your vocabulary bank is so limited to that extent that you cant even find a better word to describe than rigid?
• iveco

  3 Sep 06, 14:48

  Originally posted by 105090:

  isnt this what the operator want? to pack the bus as fully as possible? thats called maximising resources, maximising net profit
  
  its not illegal to have standing passengers.....
  its not illegal not to deploy bendy or double deckers.....
  
  sv190 can all use 12m buses also nothing wrong of SMRT...
  sv147 can come every 20mins and has a 90% full DD also like that..
  
  but longer freq, bigger bus means less resources used

  But SBS used almost full DD fleet for 190.
  
  I'd rather 147 went under Tibs and SMRT had subway monopoly back in 1999. LTA made a big mistake giving SBS(T) the NEL tender.
• 105090

  3 Sep 06, 16:08

  rigid means not bending, stiff, inflexible
  
  hardly even saying its to describe a 12m bus?
• stooper

  3 Sep 06, 22:48

  Originally posted by gohby:

  goodness gracious! surely "bus fans" like you can use better terms to describe "rigid bus" it would be especially confusing to others. hmm... your vocabulary bank is so limited to that extent that you cant even find a better word to describe than rigid?

  Erm... Rigid is commonly used to describe non-bendy buses...
• SilverKris

  4 Sep 06, 12:37

  Hehehe.....yeah lor.....I think gohby's vocab not so good, or perhaps he is unfamiliar with bus jargon but still want to act smart and correct the accurate terms lor
  
  got standard rigid buses lah, articulated (bendy) buses lah, long rigid buses lah etc.
  
  
• tanjun

  22 Sep 06, 00:02

  Originally posted by ah-soh:

  Which SMRT services do you think have the highest demand?
  
  Personally I think is 187 as 187 seems to be heavy loaded everytime.

  It is quite obvious that svc 190 has the highest demand for SMRT service due to its high frequency and high number of buses depolyed on it. What about the second highest demand? I vote for svc 804. Gd frequency plus bus quite packed.
• gohby

  23 Sep 06, 13:42

  Originally posted by SilverKris:

  Hehehe.....yeah lor.....I think gohby's vocab not so good, or perhaps he is unfamiliar with bus jargon but still want to act smart and correct the accurate terms lor
  
  got standard rigid buses lah, articulated (bendy) buses lah, long rigid buses lah etc.
  
  

  Thanks for your lovely comments anyway.
  
  Right, so whose english is better? Rigid bus! What a wonderful way to describe a bus! Dont u know how awkward this expression is in terms of standard english? If your english is pathetic, kindly shut up. So what will it be next? Rigid MRT, Rigid Cars? Or what? Rigid Silverkris?
• gohby

  23 Sep 06, 13:54

  Originally posted by stooper:

  Erm... Rigid is commonly used to describe non-bendy buses...

  Of course i know what is meant by "rigid buses", but that is not the correct way to put it. I dare say many are confused with the term "rigid buses". All buses are inflexible what, even those articulated ones. Even though the articulated buses can "bend", but how can the bus body ever bend?
  
  Now look at this site:
  
  http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/about/memorylane.aspx
  
  Does SBS Transit describe buses as "Rigid buses"
  
  Now, Silverkris who is the uncultured idiot who has limited vocabulary, and still want to act smart and correct others who is correct??
  
  Looks like you are the ones with RIGID brains lol.
  
• Brother W. Sunikmaniam

  23 Sep 06, 16:35

  ok based on my current survey
  
  sv61 total 33 buses amdep 17 kjdep 16
  needs more bendies on peak hours and weekends.deploy a perm lance like 1017 or 1018.off peak rigid bus will cope.deploy a perm hino for kjdep
  
  sv67 need more bendies on weekends/ph pm onwards.frequencies should improved during weekdays peak.
  
  sv77 should add 2 buses during the morning peak
  
  sv106 should add 1 more rigid bus seriously.off peak can take more bendies off.
  
  sv167 need two bendies on weekdays peak.cut 2 rigid buses off will do.weekends need not deploy bendies.
  
  sv169 need almost full bendies on peak hours and weekends.
  
  sv172 need additional bendy bus
  
  sv190 exchange 2 rigid buses with bendies will do
  
  
• stooper

  23 Sep 06, 20:40

  Originally posted by gohby:

  Now, Silverkris who is the uncultured idiot who has limited vocabulary, and still want to act smart and correct others who is correct??
  
  Looks like you are the ones with RIGID brains lol.
  

  Do a Google search...
  
  http://www.google.com.sg/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=rigid+bendy+bus&btnG=Search&meta=
  
  See how many people use Rigid Buses? Other bus companies do so (Lothian)...
  
  I think you're the one who needs to widen your knowledge...
• FBI

  23 Sep 06, 20:42

  Originally posted by ah-soh:

  Which SMRT services do you think have the highest demand?
  
  Personally I think is 187 as 187 seems to be heavy loaded everytime.

  187 always v pack..
• gohby

  24 Sep 06, 00:09

  Originally posted by stooper:

  Do a Google search...
  
  http://www.google.com.sg/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=rigid+bendy+bus&btnG=Search&meta=
  
  See how many people use Rigid Buses? Other bus companies do so (Lothian)...
  
  I think you're the one who needs to widen your knowledge...

  Do a google.com defination search
  
  Now, try to type "Define Rigid buses"
  
  Any definations? NO.
  
  Who needs to widen your knowledge? You.
  Who needs to be less obstinate? You.
  Who needs to eat tons of humble pie? You.
  Who needs to think maturely? You.
  
  Alright, who cares if Lothian bus company uses the term rigid buses? I will not change my opinion on the term "rigid buses" becos u were unable to convince me. Even google cant define rigid buses, let alone you, or a bus company?
  
  In the first place I pointed out to VO that "Rigid buses" is not an accurate term to describe buses. (It is ambiguous; all buses are rigid). There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you can convince me that I am wrong then I would gladly apologise, if not, just keep your a55 out of this situation. No one will say you are spastic if you dont. Period.
• stooper

  24 Sep 06, 01:05

  Originally posted by gohby:

  Even google cant define rigid buses, let alone you, or a bus company?
  

  Enter your term into Google, take a look at the link at the bottom of the page or the 6th link.
  
  "bus (type 1)" means a rigid bus that has 2 axles and an MRC not exceeding 12 tonnes;
  
  "bus (type 2)" means:
  
  1. a rigid bus that has 2 axles and an MRC exceeding 12 tonnes; or
  2. a rigid bus that has 3 axles;
• SilverKris

  24 Sep 06, 01:25

  Now now gohby, I won't comment on your English standard with your 'defination' instead of 'definition' and all.....
  
  Iwon't try to launch an angry and *incorrect missive*like you, and call you derogatory names so as to *avoid the real issue* at hand, and try to distract others from facts.
  
  Perhaps it is your way of saving yourself face, or your helpless response to public embarrassment when proven wrong.
  
  It is a fact that 'rigid bus' is commonly used around the world.....even if SBS Transit doesn't use it.
  
  If you do a google search (type 'rigid bus') you will find approximately 3760000 entries on the subject.
  
  Here are a few examples for your education:
  
  USA- The University of California, Los Angeles uses the term 'rigid bus':
  http://peer.berkeley.edu/year6/yr6_projects/ta5/lifelines401b.html
  
  United Kingdom: the Transport of London authority, and the Mayor of London use the term 'rigid bus': http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/downloads/accessibile_bus_stop_design_guidance.pdf#search=%22rigid%20buses%22
  
  Australia: the Tasmania, Queensland, New South Wales state governments all use the term 'rigid buses.' One example: http://www.metrotas.com.au/html/about.html
  
  The European Union, including Sweden uses the term 'rigid bus': http://www.eu2001.se/static/ENG/issues/trans_telecom.asp
  
  Even Eastern European countries like Romania use the term 'rigid bus' too:
  http://www.ebrd.com/oppor/procure/opps/goods/tenders/060726a.htm
  
  And if you check online encyclopedias like wikipedia, they use it too:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_O305
  
  This is certainly bizarre behaviour from you.
  
  Surely you must realise that anyone who is remotely interested in the subject can just google, learn about rigid buses and discover you are very, very wrong.
  
  If you are trying to pull a fast one by misleading others through abusive language, you are certainly digging yourself into a deeper pit.
  
  The issue is not even if you think the term 'rigid bus' is awkward sounding, or whether you like the term or not. The issue is if the term exists, and is used around the world. Surely you can grasp this simple point.
  
  Don't try to pull a fast one, by pretending you were misunderstood earlier, or shift the posts of the issue by agreeing *now*, and then moving it to something else.
  
  If you don't like the term 'rigid bus'- too bad. But you can't stop other countries from using it, and you can't stop others from pointing out that the term is commonly used in other countries.
  
  So far, your reaction is to abuse others by calling them all sorts of names. That's just a poor reflection of your intellectual ability and maturity. It's almost as if you believe (or try to delude yourself that way) that the more nasty names you label others, the easier it is to change reality. Or maybe you just think others are easily deceived.
  
  But the facts remain. You can't change them.
  Anyone who wants to learn about 'rigid buses', just do a google, and read up.
  
  It's time that you educate yourself too gohby
• JJxJJ

  24 Sep 06, 10:02

  sv960?
• tanjun

  24 Sep 06, 10:05

  Originally posted by Brother W. Sunikmaniam:

  ok based on my current survey
  
  sv61 total 33 buses amdep 17 kjdep 16
  needs more bendies on peak hours and weekends.deploy a perm lance like 1017 or 1018.off peak rigid bus will cope.deploy a perm hino for kjdep
  
  sv67 need more bendies on weekends/ph pm onwards.frequencies should improved during weekdays peak.
  
  sv77 should add 2 buses during the morning peak
  
  sv106 should add 1 more rigid bus seriously.off peak can take more bendies off.
  
  sv167 need two bendies on weekdays peak.cut 2 rigid buses off will do.weekends need not deploy bendies.
  
  sv169 need almost full bendies on peak hours and weekends.
  
  sv172 need additional bendy bus
  
  sv190 exchange 2 rigid buses with bendies will do
  
  

  It is quite an informative survery that you have done. For svc 169, I strongly agree with you that it need bendies during the weekday peak hours especially friday evening when many NSF book out from Nee Soon Camp ad Sembawang camp that adds on to the passenger load of svc 169.
• SBS9889U

  24 Sep 06, 10:17

  Sv966 peak frequency need to improve. Weekend frequency quite ok.
  Sv852 frequency for day need to improve.