Highest demand SBST services
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Whatz the use of publishing the numbers out to the public ?Originally posted by tanjun:The problem is they do not show the average ridership for the different services. The statistics shown on sbst website is the average ridership for all the bus services. Average ridership can be equated to demand of the SBST services. -
Transparency in the agency/comapny? hmm....Originally posted by sBs_boy:Whatz the use of publishing the numbers out to the public ?
Or maybe its juz a tidbit that they can let us know? -
so we can know exactly the demand of these services. It is more on transparency. Besides, I can also know the patterns of the bus deployments whether or not is it based on number of passengers onboard on the service or based on profitability of the service.
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Haiz..the aftereffects of NKF incident....Originally posted by tanjun:so we can know exactly the demand of these services. It is more on transparency. Besides, I can also know the patterns of the bus deployments whether or not is it based on number of passengers onboard on the service or based on profitability of the service.
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Just go through sgwiki under bus deployments, B9TLs deployed on 147 is more than on 21. Maybe 147 is the next wheelchair accessible service?
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I mean.. For a average Singaporeans, would they wanna know how the buses are deployed ? no.. they do not care.. all they wanna know is when their bus will arrive.. do they wanna care about the demand ? answer is also no. does it mean that by publishing the demands of each and every other service would mean that it will help to bring up the demand for other low demand services ?? It wouldnt help in anyway. If a route is low demand, it is low demand. by publishing the numbers would not help to bring it up. you talk about transparency. what is there to talk about ? ComfortDelgro is Not a Non-profit organisation who rely on public funds to run. Mind you.. They are a company who is profit driven. i do not think that you have the right to question them regarding this. It is already very good that they publish their monthly ridership. For all you know, they can actually dont do these.. Like i say.. Would an average joe cares about this ??Originally posted by tanjun:so we can know exactly the demand of these services. It is more on transparency. Besides, I can also know the patterns of the bus deployments whether or not is it based on number of passengers onboard on the service or based on profitability of the service. -
Thanks very much for clarifying your points. I understand what you mean. Transparency also has its limits. Besides, demand of the services depend on many factors. In two to three years, when circle line is established, demand of services will change again. Maybe I should just let go and just let nature take its course.Originally posted by sBs_boy:I mean.. For a average Singaporeans, would they wanna know how the buses are deployed ? no.. they do not care.. all they wanna know is when their bus will arrive.. do they wanna care about the demand ? answer is also no. does it mean that by publishing the demands of each and every other service would mean that it will help to bring up the demand for other low demand services ?? It wouldnt help in anyway. If a route is low demand, it is low demand. by publishing the numbers would not help to bring it up. you talk about transparency. what is there to talk about ? ComfortDelgro is Not a Non-profit organisation who rely on public funds to run. Mind you.. They are a company who is profit driven. i do not think that you have the right to question them regarding this. It is already very good that they publish their monthly ridership. For all you know, they can actually dont do these.. Like i say.. Would an average joe cares about this ?? -
SMRT buses are always crowded be it peak or non peak hours.
SBST , City buses are always empty with one or two flies on them, such a misallocation of resources by the government.... -
What does this gotta do with the government ?Originally posted by phillipC:SMRT buses are always crowded be it peak or non peak hours.
SBST , City buses are always empty with one or two flies on them, such a misallocation of resources by the government.... -
Govenment dont own the bus companies....Originally posted by phillipC:SMRT buses are always crowded be it peak or non peak hours.
SBST , City buses are always empty with one or two flies on them, such a misallocation of resources by the government....
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Govt don't own the public bus companies but they do have the biggest stakes in the shares FYI
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I'm still waiting for the reply
But I can bet the fellows are just thick skin fellows... They wun apologise saying that's only 1 time off or some other crappy reasons to justify
I've been told the following Sat, 90 and 94 runned at very frequent frequencies -
they are called "quasi-government" companies.Originally posted by Lord_Of_Hayan:Govenment dont own the bus companies....
the government has large stakes in the companies, and influence the way the industry and operaters operates.
similarly, "private" enquities like polytechnics are also quasi-government companies -
SMRT is owned by Temask, which is PAP related...Originally posted by 105090:they are called "quasi-government" companies.
the government has large stakes in the companies, and influence the way the industry and operaters operates.
similarly, "private" enquities like polytechnics are also quasi-government companies
I don't think ComfortDelGro is related to the PAP? -
I am a little bit confused about that. So, does it mean that the SBST is a private company?Originally posted by 105090:they are called "quasi-government" companies.
the government has large stakes in the companies, and influence the way the industry and operaters operates.
similarly, "private" enquities like polytechnics are also quasi-government companies
In addition, I just feel strange that why these svc such as 2, 67, 147 have quite a substantial amount of duplication with the MRT lines and yet their demand is still not bad? -
SBS is private company, but government has a large stake in it. same goes for tertiary institutions etc.Originally posted by tanjun:I am a little bit confused about that. So, does it mean that the SBST is a private company?
In addition, I just feel strange that why these svc such as 2, 67, 147 have quite a substantial amount of duplication with the MRT lines and yet their demand is still not bad?
Trans Island previously was a private company, but sold to SMRT/ Government for $80 million
i cant really comment on sv2 and 67..
for sv147, its helpful to note that the MRT does not serve Bendemeer Rd, Jln Besar, Bencoolen Street etc.
Even along Serangoon Road, NEL is still quite a distance from Serangoon Road..
Also, my opinion why 147 remains as it is is due to the above reasons, and probably the MP or some politician "appealed" like mad.. probably to gain votes? and for SBS to have more reasons to calm down the public outcry..
at least people still have "one" service to town -
i wonder.. if SBS is a private company, and one day it gets tired of the public whining, and MOT, LTA, PTC continuous demands, then it decides to call it quits,
then half of singapore has no more bus transport and let the authorities settle this mess -
Get your facts right. Temasek isnt PAP related although both of them share the same house.Originally posted by stooper:SMRT is owned by Temask, which is PAP related...
I don't think ComfortDelGro is related to the PAP? -
likewise, S2/67 serves geylang rd which the MRT doesnt.Originally posted by 105090:i cant really comment on sv2 and 67..
for sv147, its helpful to note that the MRT does not serve Bendemeer Rd, Jln Besar, Bencoolen Street etc.
Even along Serangoon Road, NEL is still quite a distance from Serangoon Road..
i rather take S67 frm tampines int to geylang serai den to take the train. i believe many others(general public) share my sentiments. -
For me, currently I will rather take buses from a place to another place because I have bought bus stamp.Originally posted by sinicker:likewise, S2/67 serves geylang rd which the MRT doesnt.
i rather take S67 frm tampines int to geylang serai den to take the train. i believe many others(general public) share my sentiments.
What about the return trip since the bus stop is at Sims Ave which is probably nearer to the MRT stations along Geylang? Will you choose time vs walking distance for a journey from Geylang Serai to Tampines? -
going back also take bus.Originally posted by tanjun:What about the return trip since the bus stop is at Sims Ave which is probably nearer to the MRT stations along Geylang? Will you choose time vs walking distance for a journey from Geylang Serai to Tampines?
family has been doing it since i was small. since Service 4 days so to speak. -
haha...then that means, the govt(SMRT) have to settle thenOriginally posted by 105090:i wonder.. if SBS is a private company, and one day it gets tired of the public whining, and MOT, LTA, PTC continuous demands, then it decides to call it quits,
then half of singapore has no more bus transport and let the authorities settle this mess -
Originally posted by 105090:
[b]SBS is private company, but government has a large stake in it. same goes for tertiary institutions etc.
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[/b]Originally posted by 105090:
So, just to ask, is SBST a private company since you use "if" for the most recent thread?
[b]i wonder.. if SBS is a private company, and one day it gets tired of the public whining, and MOT, LTA, PTC continuous demands, then it decides to call it quits,
then half of singapore has no more bus transport and let the authorities settle this mess [/b]