Hm...Why Singaporeans see old folks dont give up seat?
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Originally posted by sgboy2004:to be fair, remove all the seats...wanna sit, sit on the floor lor... problem solved.
then everyone will be rolling
to the front.. n back no pple -
for me...yes ill stand up n give them the sit..but happen before...i stand up n before i can offer him/her the sit!..someone from beside..actually sit on it..
my goodness..that is extreme..
if i have no sit..then i see that person really old.. like cannt support n he dosent have a sit also
if i beside ill try to get abit closer lo..at least..if he lost balance..he bang onto me ba..(acting like a wall for him/her )
but if i see is werid pek pek..i dont care -
ACSOriginally posted by 105090:i find this particular JC/ School along Buona Vista/ Dover students attitude rather amusing...
15 of them can make a double deck bus (upper deck) full
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LOL! What happened? They sleep on the seats? Play catching ah?Originally posted by 105090:15 of them can make a double deck bus (upper deck) full -
You even counted?Originally posted by 105090:i find this particular JC/ School along Buona Vista/ Dover students attitude rather amusing...
15 of them can make a double deck bus (upper deck) full -
no lah. All the 15 idiots go block the entrance exit and even the emergency exit
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Its sad that humans in general are selfish, but its also how many survived because of selfishness. Confusing...Originally posted by Lord_Of_Hayan:Today while i took 174 home, it was pretty crowded, but there are still abit of space for standing. Then a senior citizen boarded the bus, and after he tapped his ez-link card, no one in the bus gave up their seats to the senior citizen.
The ppl at the front, mostly are 9-5ers were either dozing or reading the tabloid. Finally, when majority of the people alighted at following bus stops, he managed to sit down.
It really occured to me that is Singaporeans really that selfish in actually giving up their seats to the elderly? This had actually happened occasionally on other services. Your views please.
Every people have different mindset and views. I have seen many examples of what you described, but I have also seen some rare cases of courtesy and kindness.
But I not giving up courtesy and compassion towards people just because they are not.
I love~~~ going against the wave.
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i didnt know the green seats were for the elderly...but what about those sbs bus where the seats are black with some colored stripes on them. there arent any seats that are supposedly for the elderly are there?
and another thing. actually things are not as they look like. even though we often see students or adults sitting while there are old folks standing, it doesnt mean that the former is selfish or inconsiderate. ive encountered many situations where i did give up my seat to the old folk standing but he/she refused and told me to sit down while they choose to continue standing. ive seen quite a number of old folks rejecting seats from others who offer as well. so what the public see is the old folks standing while the young is sitting but how many know the actual story? see, we're always jumping to conclusions. so whenever i encounter such awkwardness where i know there must be people commenting on how selfish i am, not giving up my seat, when i had and was rejected, i just tell myself that at least the person up there knows what is going on and so i shouldnt worry to much since i know that is what is should do. the feeling's not good though. -
There are black seats? rego please.Originally posted by jaydunkfull:i didnt know the green seats were for the elderly...but what about those sbs bus where the seats are black with some colored stripes on them. there arent any seats that are supposedly for the elderly are there?
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Is it, I guess itz a case of sour grapes lor. U jealous of the pupils from this JC/sch issit? Usually itz d case.Originally posted by 105090:i find this particular JC/ School along Buona Vista/ Dover students attitude rather amusing...
15 of them can make a double deck bus (upper deck) full -
are you one of them as well?Originally posted by SBS2798U:Is it, I guess itz a case of sour grapes lor. U jealous of the pupils from this JC/sch issit? Usually itz d case.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=212708
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=152356
on the subject of removing all seats, why not throw a few 10 cent coins as well? -
Throw 10 cents for what purpose?Originally posted by 105090:are you one of them as well?
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=212708
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=152356
on the subject of removing all seats, why not throw a few 10 cent coins as well?
I still think regardless of wether you pay full fare or just selfish, its kind of logical you have to give up your seat.
1) The elderly is your senior, and they have led Singapore through some ways to get here today.
2) They are old, and do not have the physical strength like us to hold on while a bc is turning the bus here and there. They might get injured, seriously.
3) Some mentioned that when you yourself get old, no one will offer you seats. This will be because Singaporeans would have carved out such a thinking, by our generation for the future generation. -
Well, tank u 4 thinking so highly of me. If you think I am from ACS & ACJC, i tink it's cool. At least I can come from this kinda premier sch, at least better than u lor.Originally posted by 105090:are you one of them as well?
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=212708
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=152356
on the subject of removing all seats, why not throw a few 10 cent coins as well?
Sing ACS forever more, our ACS forever... -
Its how u study, coming or studying from a premier school does not neccesarily mean u are better then him.Originally posted by SBS2798U:Well, tank u 4 thinking so highly of me. If you think I am from ACS & ACJC, i tink it's cool. At least I can come from this kinda premier sch, at least better than u lor.
Sing ACS forever more, our ACS forever...
You might be good at something, but he might be good at something that you are weak at. -
I agree!Originally posted by Lord_Of_Hayan:Its how u study, coming or studying from a premier school does not neccesarily mean u are better then him.
You might be good at something, but he might be good at something that you are weak at.
Who would you take as a friend? A guy from some well-respected school but doesn't give up his seat to older people? Or some ordinary guy with a heart of gold but never fails to make sure that elderlys get their seats?
Intelligence pays no part in a person's character. -
I personally wish that everyone will let the senior citizens their seats when they have the chance. I was deep thinking, what if your grandparents are the one who is on the bus and no one gave their seats to them?
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What about those women who are pregnant and those women or ah ma ah gong who brings thir small grandchild go gai gai? I think these groups of ppl deserve to sit on the green seats. However, hao xin bu yi ding hui you hao bao. This can be illustrated with the quote below.
There is one day when I was boarding bus 960 to woodlands from Bugis. I saw a man with walking stick boarding the bus which is quite packed with ppl. Out of compassion together with my courage, I give up my seat and use hand signals to indicate that the seat is specially for him. However, he said no need and told me to sit down. In the end, some other guy took the seat. The feeling is rather wierd and not gd though. Perhaps Singapore still do not have the culture of giving up seats to people and thus the "wierd" feeling in me arises. Pardon me for saying that. Although I know that many ppl are actually kind and compassionate and courageous enough to give up the seats, the social stigma attached to these actions are there.Originally posted by jaydunkfull:i didnt know the green seats were for the elderly...but what about those sbs bus where the seats are black with some colored stripes on them. there arent any seats that are supposedly for the elderly are there?
and another thing. actually things are not as they look like. even though we often see students or adults sitting while there are old folks standing, it doesnt mean that the former is selfish or inconsiderate. ive encountered many situations where i did give up my seat to the old folk standing but he/she refused and told me to sit down while they choose to continue standing. ive seen quite a number of old folks rejecting seats from others who offer as well. so what the public see is the old folks standing while the young is sitting but how many know the actual story? see, we're always jumping to conclusions. so whenever i encounter such awkwardness where i know there must be people commenting on how selfish i am, not giving up my seat, when i had and was rejected, i just tell myself that at least the person up there knows what is going on and so i shouldnt worry to much since i know that is what is should do. the feeling's not good though. -
Even if you feel awkward, you know that deep in your heart, you have the good intentions. Some elderly are still headstrong at their age ( mostly because of their dignity), so you cant do anything much.Originally posted by tanjun:What about those women who are pregnant and those women or ah ma ah gong who brings thir small grandchild go gai gai? I think these groups of ppl deserve to sit on the green seats. However, hao xin bu yi ding hui you hao bao. This can be illustrated with the quote below.
There is one day when I was boarding bus 960 to woodlands from Bugis. I saw a man with walking stick boarding the bus which is quite packed with ppl. Out of compassion together with my courage, I give up my seat and use hand signals to indicate that the seat is specially for him. However, he said no need and told me to sit down. In the end, some other guy took the seat. The feeling is rather wierd and not gd though. Perhaps Singapore still do not have the culture of giving up seats to people and thus the "wierd" feeling in me arises. Pardon me for saying that. Although I know that many ppl are actually kind and compassionate and courageous enough to give up the seats, the social stigma attached to these actions are there.
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I agree with you for this point. Some elderly have a lot of pride on themselves.
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I am proud to say that I am more than willing to oblige.
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I will give up regardless old people or Pregnant lady or women carrying babies.. As long i done my part.. who cares what the others think or look at me?
After all the bus ride over, u got off, no body going to remember you anyway..
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Yea. you have done your part.
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Maybe some old folks really don't deserve to be given a seat. Here are a few examples I have encountered:
- Old woman, nothing to carry: (translated from Hokkien) "Boy ah... The seat hot-hot one why you give me sit..? You want me to die is it..?" But she still sat down. I dropped and took an alternative bus service at the next stop.
- This is physical. Me and a few friends were queuing for a bus at a major neighourhood interchange between central Singapore and the north when 2 old ladies shoved, i repeat, shoved my friend out of the queue and stood in line. The other passengers just watched on. We were in school uniform so we didn't kick up a fuss.
- MRT. City Hall. Old man, well-dressed, Rolex or Rolek i dunno but he just barged into the train before passengers could even get out of their seats to alight. Was behind him with 20-odd other passengers.
So sometimes old folks have rights but they abuse them. I still give up my seat but I see their actions from the time they board first. -
Maybe some old folks really don't deserve to be given a seat. Here are a few examples I have encountered:
- Old woman, nothing to carry: (translated from Hokkien) "Boy ah... The seat hot-hot one why you give me sit..? You want me to die is it..?" But she still sat down. I dropped and took an alternative bus service at the next stop.
- This is physical. Me and a few friends were queuing for a bus at a major neighourhood interchange between central Singapore and the north when 2 old ladies shoved, i repeat, shoved my friend out of the queue and stood in line. The other passengers just watched on. We were in school uniform so we didn't kick up a fuss.
- MRT. City Hall. Old man, well-dressed, Rolex or Rolek i dunno but he just barged into the train before passengers could even get out of their seats to alight. Was behind him with 20-odd other passengers.
So sometimes old folks have rights but they abuse them. I still give up my seat but I see their actions from the time they board first.
But, just to share *off topic*. This heavily tattoo-ed Chinese before alighting shouted "thank you" to the driver before he tapped his card. Goes to show looks don't represent yourself. -
i would lke to giv up my seat to a pregnant lady i see everyday.
BUT
e ride is 45 mins.
I cant stand for too long for i will faint.
so bo bian