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2005: SBS9889U, Volvo Super Olympian B10TL (PSV)Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:Wow! That makes it 30 years already! Let's run through the DD roll of honour.
The regulars:
1977: Leyland Atlantean AN68.2R (BACo / Metal Sections)
1978/79? - 1982: Leyland Atlantean AN68.2R (Duple Metsec / Alexander L)
1984-1986: Leyland Atlantean AN68.2R (Alexander R) / Mercedes-Benz O305 (Alexander R)
1986-1988: Leyland Olympian ONTL11.2R (Alexander R)
1993-1994: Leyland Olympian 12m (Alexander Royale)
1994-1998: Volvo Olympian 10.4m / 12m (Alexander Royale)
2001: Dennis Trident (DM5000)
2002-2003: Volvo Super Olympian B10TL (Volgren CR222LD)
2006-2007: Volvo B9TL (CDGE)
The demos:
1981: SBS4741U, Volvo-Ailsa B55 Mk-II (Alexander AV)
1981: SBS5396B, Leyland Olympian ONTL11.2R (Alexander R)
1982: SBS5500S, Mercedes-Benz O305 (Willowbrooke)
1982/83?: SBS7000E, Scania BR112DH (East Lancs)
1982/83?: SBS7003Y, Dennis Dominator DDA144 (East Lancs)
1983: SBS5541Z, Mercedes-Benz O305 (Alexander R)
1984: SBS4961B, Volvo B10MD (East Lancs)
1999: SBS9888Y, Volvo Super Olympian B10TL (Volgren CR22LD)
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SBS9889U body is from CDGE as wellOriginally posted by service_238:2005: SBS9889U, Volvo Super Olympian B10TL (PSV) -
you left out SBS 9889U, Volvo Super Olympian B10TL (ComfortDelgro Engineering) (EDS front and side)Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:Wow! That makes it 30 years already! Let's run through the DD roll of honour.
The regulars:
1977: Leyland Atlantean AN68.2R (BACo / Metal Sections)
1978/79? - 1982: Leyland Atlantean AN68.2R (Duple Metsec / Alexander L)
1984-1986: Leyland Atlantean AN68.2R (Alexander R) / Mercedes-Benz O305 (Alexander R)
1986-1988: Leyland Olympian ONTL11.2R (Alexander R)
1993-1994: Leyland Olympian 12m (Alexander Royale)
1994-1998: Volvo Olympian 10.4m / 12m (Alexander Royale)
2001: Dennis Trident (DM5000)
2002-2003: Volvo Super Olympian B10TL (Volgren CR222LD)
2006-2007: Volvo B9TL (CDGE)
The demos:
1981: SBS4741U, Volvo-Ailsa B55 Mk-II (Alexander AV)
1981: SBS5396B, Leyland Olympian ONTL11.2R (Alexander R)
1982: SBS5500S, Mercedes-Benz O305 (Willowbrooke)
1982/83?: SBS7000E, Scania BR112DH (East Lancs)
1982/83?: SBS7003Y, Dennis Dominator DDA144 (East Lancs)
1983: SBS5541Z, Mercedes-Benz O305 (Alexander R)
1984: SBS4961B, Volvo B10MD (East Lancs)
1999: SBS9888Y, Volvo Super Olympian B10TL (Volgren CR22LD)
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Opps. 9889U slipped my mind. Looking at the list, SBS have used 1919 DDs over the past 30 years; of which about 790 are being used today. A far cry from the initial fleet of just 20 buses.
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Read the Mike Davis Singapore Buses Part 2 on why 9889U is a PSV bodywork though its CDGE that builds the bus.Originally posted by TIB1049L:SBS9889U body is from CDGE as well -
Where can I get the book and how much is it? Mine is the really outdated Dennis Chan oneOriginally posted by service_238:Read the Mike Davis Singapore Buses Part 2 on why 9889U is a PSV bodywork though its CDGE that builds the bus.
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You can order this book online, but it's going to cost more than S$80, including freight charges.Originally posted by TIB1049L:Where can I get the book and how much is it? Mine is the really outdated Dennis Chan one -
cant find at any bookstore?Originally posted by SBS9816E:You can order this book online, but it's going to cost more than S$80, including freight charges. -
NO..Originally posted by SBS9888Y:cant find at any bookstore? -
Let me just gonna clarify SBS9889U to you guys:Originally posted by BusSpeeder:you left out SBS 9889U, Volvo Super Olympian B10TL (ComfortDelgro Engineering) (EDS front and side)
1. It is a bodywork designed by ComfortDelgro, and in corporation with PSV for the bodykit.
2. The bodywork is designed in UK, and assembled in Singapore.
3. It is built up from a Completely Knocked Down (CKD) Kit, ie parts that require for assembly. -
There isn't any bookstores in Singapore that you can find it. You can purchase it through the publisher through DTS Publishing.Originally posted by SBS9888Y:cant find at any bookstore? -
Forget bout it. I have still yet to get something elseOriginally posted by SBS9816E:You can order this book online, but it's going to cost more than S$80, including freight charges. -
Now Transitlink calculate bus fare for you on Transitlink Bus Enquiry page.
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did u know..
there this big ipod in SBS633?
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Its ipod?I thought it was TV mobile surrounded by something white.Originally posted by ZYX2005:did u know..
there this big ipod in SBS633?
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You mean 9889 uses a body kit from Soon Chow?Originally posted by service_238:Read the Mike Davis Singapore Buses Part 2 on why 9889U is a PSV bodywork though its CDGE that builds the bus.
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Soon Chow =/= PSV.Originally posted by iveco:You mean 9889 uses a body kit from Soon Chow?
Here's the article in the book. It includes an external article from Coach & Bus Week.
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Didn't Soon Chow supply PSV body kits in the past?
Anyway, there seems to be an error in the book. 9889 was the 52nd VSO that entered service in the SBS fleet. 9888 came in 1999 and 9800-49 in the subsequent 3 years. -
51st of the 'production' batch. SBS9888Y is not part of that batch.Originally posted by iveco:Anyway, there seems to be an error in the book. 9889 was the 52nd VSO that entered service in the SBS fleet. 9888 came in 1999 and 9800-49 in the subsequent 3 years. -
spoke to a private coach driver recently. He told me manual transmission buses are more fuel saving than Auto ones. On average assume both buses travel at similar distances; manual ones use up say abt 200 litres of diesel. but auto ones consume abt 240 litres!
He said air brakes are dangerous too. He ever encountered air brake failure when circuit broke and was forced to use the handbrakes to pull the bus to a stop!
And for coaches going up mountains (eg Genting); it wear off the brake system and he even smelled sort of burning when the bus reached the top! -
Soon Chow I believe, has a relationship with PSV international, thats why you get them building buses based on PSV International's designs. The body on B9TLs are also partially designed by PSV International.Originally posted by iveco:You mean 9889 uses a body kit from Soon Chow? -
Manual transmission buses are also faster, although top end manual transmissions/semi-automatic like Opticruise (Scania) and iShift (Volvo) cost more than an average one like the ZF S6-85 synchromesh gearbox.Originally posted by SBS3688Y:spoke to a private coach driver recently. He told me manual transmission buses are more fuel saving than Auto ones. On average assume both buses travel at similar distances; manual ones use up say abt 200 litres of diesel. but auto ones consume abt 240 litres!
He said air brakes are dangerous too. He ever encountered air brake failure when circuit broke and was forced to use the handbrakes to pull the bus to a stop!
And for coaches going up mountains (eg Genting); it wear off the brake system and he even smelled sort of burning when the bus reached the top! -
It's always the case as you have more control of your vehicle (of any kind) if you are driving manual. Auto transmission are controlled by a computer chip so it reacts accordingly to your driving style. Maybe technical experts can do more explanation and corrections to my post if needed.Originally posted by SBS3688Y:spoke to a private coach driver recently. He told me manual transmission buses are more fuel saving than Auto ones. On average assume both buses travel at similar distances; manual ones use up say abt 200 litres of diesel. but auto ones consume abt 240 litres!
He said air brakes are dangerous too. He ever encountered air brake failure when circuit broke and was forced to use the handbrakes to pull the bus to a stop!
And for coaches going up mountains (eg Genting); it wear off the brake system and he even smelled sort of burning when the bus reached the top!
As for brakes, the coach I took in Switzerland (a VDL Bova) had 2 brake systems, one by foot, and one by hand. So up and down mountain roads are just fine without burnt brake pads! Not forgetting to mention good driving habits... -
50th of the production batch.Originally posted by SBS9806J:51st of the 'production' batch. SBS9888Y is not part of that batch.
9888Y and 9810X are not part of the production batch (according to VIN), these two buses had their chassis built in Irvine, UK while the others are built in Poland. These two buses are also assembled in Volgren's plant in Dandenong, Victoria, Australia.
The mystery about 9810X is whether SBS Transit ordered 51 B10TLs, or this was given as a Voith demo, but did its tests before it got registered and eventually ended up in the main fleet.
VIN:
YV3S1E117XC050141 B10TL-7300 JG5446 Ar H59/33D 11/1999 Kowloon Motor Bus 3ASV50
YV3S1E119XC050142 B10TL-7300 SBS9810X Vgn VG1490 H55/28D 2/2003 SBS Transit
YV3S1E110XC050143 B10TL-7300 JG2912 Ar H59/33D 10/1999 Kowloon Motor Bus 3ASV43
Taken from: www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk
I believe the chassis was done in around 1999. The date there is the new date, ie the first registration date, it is basically built together with the 3ASVs of KMB. Also note that 3ASV50 and 3ASV43's registration date was around the same time as 9888Y, October 1999. -
And the book says HGDEP as Huangang depot .Originally posted by iveco:Didn't Soon Chow supply PSV body kits in the past?
Anyway, there seems to be an error in the book. 9889 was the 52nd VSO that entered service in the SBS fleet. 9888 came in 1999 and 9800-49 in the subsequent 3 years.
and SBS9889U still had its rim guards on . Now i dont see it anymore .