Did you know.....?

• SBS3625D

  12 Feb 07, 21:18

  .....that the refurbished LO3X/VO3X differ in their refurbishments?
  
  Some have red seats, some have red seats with new AC covers, others have blue seats with new AC covers. And the new AC covers differ too. Eg. 9188J has hard AC covers, 9037L has a soft cover for the AC.
• stooper

  12 Feb 07, 22:34

  Originally posted by SBS3625D:

  .....that the refurbished LO3X/VO3X differ in their refurbishments?
  
  Some have red seats, some have red seats with new AC covers, others have blue seats with new AC covers. And the new AC covers differ too. Eg. 9188J has hard AC covers, 9037L has a soft cover for the AC.

  I think for the hard cover, they just strip off the original light grey leather, showing the hard plastic underneath.
  In SLBP, the strange thing is that only the lower deck is hard cover. Upper deck is a very dark grey leather cover.
• Scania

  14 Feb 07, 20:15

  3899E now has a ZF gearbox.
• The_Bus_Guide

  14 Feb 07, 22:03

  How do you know? Don't tell me from the sound...
• Scania

  14 Feb 07, 22:09

  Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:

  How do you know? Don't tell me from the sound...

  Sound and gear selector, gear selector now has a ZF logo beside it, although the original Merc arrangement 1 2 3 N R still remains.
  
  Sound wise not like the SMRT ones. Gear changes very fast, has ZF howl, goes into NBS. retarding sound also like ZF.
• Scania N113CRB luver

  14 Feb 07, 23:01

  Originally posted by Scania:

  Sound and gear selector, gear selector now has a ZF logo beside it, although the original Merc arrangement 1 2 3 N R still remains.
  
  Sound wise not like the SMRT ones. Gear changes very fast, has ZF howl, goes into NBS. retarding sound also like ZF.

  I think that some W3E gearbox the retarding sounds also similar to ZF, especially when the BC brakes hard. You can hear a "whhrrreeeennncccccckk" sound. Both the gearboxes also produces "pppssssssT" sounds. Strange sia.
• Scania

  14 Feb 07, 23:17

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  I think that some W3E gearbox the retarding sounds also similar to ZF, especially when the BC brakes hard. You can hear a "whhrrreeeennncccccckk" sound. Both the gearboxes also produces "pppssssssT" sounds. Strange sia.

  Hello got ZF howl, got NBS, how do you explain?
• carbikebus

  15 Feb 07, 02:55

  that S354 Special schedule on 18th,19th & 20th
  
  BNDEP will deploy 3 buses during these three days,Wonder how's the frequencies with 3 buses?2 min per bus?2 buses is enough IMO,With an additional bus wonder if they will play hide and seek?
• SBS3625D

  15 Feb 07, 11:33

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  I think that some W3E gearbox the retarding sounds also similar to ZF, especially when the BC brakes hard. You can hear a "whhrrreeeennncccccckk" sound. Both the gearboxes also produces "pppssssssT" sounds. Strange sia.

  Where got?
• swee_heng

  15 Feb 07, 20:45

  The rear engine cover of TIB570D has the pattern of those on the Lances. The Mk3s on 160 were formerly based at HGDEP and 734S (if i'm not wrong) 739D & 785U has a "511" sticker sticked behind its "160" sticker & 796M was from BRBP if i'm not wrong coz i have seen the 154 sticker sticked.
• Volvo Olympian

  15 Feb 07, 20:50

  Originally posted by swee_heng:

  The rear engine cover of TIB570D has the pattern of those on the Lances.

  I think for this has been there for quite some time.
• The_Bus_Guide

  15 Feb 07, 20:52

  Originally posted by Scania:

  Hello got ZF howl, got NBS, how do you explain?

  This I gotta see. Where can I find 3899E?
• Scania

  15 Feb 07, 20:53

  Originally posted by swee_heng:

  The rear engine cover of TIB570D has the pattern of those on the Lances. The Mk3s on 160 were formerly based at HGDEP and 734S (if i'm not wrong) 739D & 785U has a "511" sticker sticked behind its "160" sticker & 796M was from BRBP if i'm not wrong coz i have seen the 154 sticker sticked.

  hgdep 154
• Scania N113CRB luver

  15 Feb 07, 20:59

  Originally posted by Scania:

  Hello got ZF howl, got NBS, how do you explain?

  Erm im not trying to argue with you that you have false info of 3899E. I actually "hacked" (IM SO SORRY!) your post. I just wish to add in a 'abit' of info. If you do notice, the W3E emits a some what air escaping sound, "pssst" when the bus stops. I dont know what causes that .. But im dead sure its not the brakes ... ZF 4HP500 also do produce this sound, only alot softer and a different tune. Try the LO3x, some produces a "psst psst....tsuiii...." sounds, which actually intrigues me. About the retarder sounds , im not too sure, but the W3E retarding does sound abit like the ZF 4HP500, ONLY when the BC brakes hard. I cant really explain...sorry.
  
  Btw what is the NBS? Neutral on Bus Stop?
• Volvo Olympian

  15 Feb 07, 21:01

  Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:

  This I gotta see. Where can I find 3899E?

  Shld be AM 13
• SBS3625D

  15 Feb 07, 21:16

  Originally posted by Scania:

  Hello got ZF howl, got NBS, how do you explain?

  Wah......
  
  Just thought of something. Was there ever Voith NAC 0405s?
• Scania

  15 Feb 07, 21:24

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  Btw what is the NBS? Neutral on Bus Stop?

  Correct, except when driver pulls handbrake.
• Scania N113CRB luver

  15 Feb 07, 21:29

  Originally posted by Scania:

  Correct, except when driver pulls handbrake.

  Oh. Btw the NBS is very obvious on the ELBOS and Scania Striders of SMRT buses. I always hear the NBS sound. Mercs O.405 also very obvious.
• Scania

  15 Feb 07, 21:31

  Originally posted by SBS3625D:

  Wah......
  
  Just thought of something. Was there ever Voith NAC 0405s?

  No.
• stooper

  15 Feb 07, 21:37

  Originally posted by Scania:

  Correct, except when driver pulls handbrake.

  What is NBS then? A button you can press?
• Scania

  15 Feb 07, 21:40

  Originally posted by stooper:

  What is that then? A button you can press?

  When you drive car, lorry, bus, etc, you will see this additional handle (like gearstick but smaller or thinner) beside the driver, it engages the brake without having the need to press the brake pedal.
• Scania N113CRB luver

  15 Feb 07, 21:41

  Originally posted by stooper:

  What is NBS then? A button you can press?

  I remember its automatically kicked in when the bus stops, am i right?
• Scania

  15 Feb 07, 21:42

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  I remember its automatically kicked in when the bus stops, am i right?

  yes automatically.
• Scania N113CRB luver

  15 Feb 07, 22:22

  Actually the NBS is a good thing for the ELBOs you know? I remember taking TIB847G on 970 (cameo), it has rather bad rattling, seats vibrate, windows vibrate and doors vibrate. But when the NBS kicks in, the rattling has been cut down a little bit, meaning rattling is not as worse. Maybe this is because when the NBS kicks in, the engine runs at a higher RPM? What does the NBS do actually? What is its purpose?
• stooper

  15 Feb 07, 22:24

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  Actually the NBS is a good thing for the ELBOs you know? I remember taking TIB847G on 970 (cameo), it has rather bad rattling, seats vibrate, windows vibrate and doors vibrate. But when the NBS kicks in, the rattling has been cut down a little bit, meaning rattling is not as worse. Maybe this is because when the NBS kicks in, the engine runs at a higher RPM? What does the NBS do actually? What is its purpose?

  Oh... So is that why the DM3500s, VO2x, etc will suddenly whine louder when stopped? Or is that something else?