SMRT tenders for 66 new 12m buses
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Transtar has two bodyworks for their Semi DDs, SKS and Soon Chow. SKS ones are registered in Malaysia. Soon Chow ones are registered in Singapore.Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:I know abt that, alot of people say SC Auto is Soon Chow
. Erm btw, is the Transtar Scania 420 DD coach bodywork from Soon Chow ?
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Chey, i thot what sia.Originally posted by Scania:The german website indeed. We are talking about the OC500LEs, not the OC500LFs.
Do you know that what is shown on manufacturer's website is not what the technical specifications given to bus operators shows. the technical specifications would have options.
Euro 4 O 500LEs are available.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OC500LE
Btw OC 500 LE's are low entry buses, OC 500 LF are "true low floor" buses, from the front all teh way to back has no steps, OC 500 LE has steps after the exit, like the B7RLEs. Actually i prefer teh OC 500 LF, so maybe i am biased abt it.
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Do note that OC 500 LF have a Vertical engine.. Which is something that is very un-popular with Technicians over here in Singapore.Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Chey, i thot what sia.
Btw OC 500 LE's are low entry buses, OC 500 LF are "true low floor" buses, from the front all teh way to back has no steps, OC 500 LE has steps after the exit, like the B7RLEs. Actually i prefer teh OC 500 LF, so maybe i am biased abt it. -
Very few bus operators would buy a full low floor bus in Asia Pacific. Europe is a different market, different market have different wants (like econs), tastes and prefrences differ between regions.Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Chey, i thot what sia.
Btw OC 500 LE's are low entry buses, OC 500 LF are "true low floor" buses, from the front all teh way to back has no steps, OC 500 LE has steps after the exit, like the B7RLEs. Actually i prefer teh OC 500 LF, so maybe i am biased abt it.
Look at this region Australia buys Low Entry buses, SIngapore has Low Entry buses, very few or no full low floor buses.
Those Europe cities are flat, your Citaro can climb hill or not? Or need another option engine? -
Anyway in case you dunno what DDs Soon Chow has partly designed and built, its the Volvo B9TLs. Not all B9TLs were built in Hougang by ComfortDelgro Engineering, thats why you see B9TLs in Northern part of Singapore.
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What's wrong with vertical engines? Don't the DDs come with it?Originally posted by sBs_boy:Do note that OC 500 LF have a Vertical engine.. Which is something that is very un-popular with Technicians over here in Singapore.
In fact, many car owners prefer the vertical engines over horizontal ones because it is less of a bitch to troubleshoot. Try troubleshooting a SUbaru motor and you'll know. -
I ask you ah, how to open engine hatch for car? and how to open for bus?Originally posted by iveco:What's wrong with vertical engines? Don't the DDs come with it?
In fact, many car owners prefer the vertical engines over horizontal ones because it is less of a bitch to troubleshoot. Try troubleshooting a SUbaru motor and you'll know.
Car and buses different lah, like apple and orange, different things. -
Vertical engines usually requires a raised floor at the end of the bus to accomodate the engine height if the engine is placed longitudinal, so to prevent this, the engine has to be placed at a transverse position, like the B9TLs, so as to enable a full low floor platform.Originally posted by iveco:What's wrong with vertical engines? Don't the DDs come with it?
In fact, many car owners prefer the vertical engines over horizontal ones because it is less of a bitch to troubleshoot. Try troubleshooting a SUbaru motor and you'll know.
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sc auto and soon chow are located in senoko.They are two different coach builder
hino japan design
sc auto new design
Isuzu euro 3
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I think got the toy version of thatOriginally posted by MitEvolution:sc auto and soon chow are located in senoko.They are two different coach builder
hino japan design
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Yes, the Citaro can climb hills. I rode one in Switzerland, up the Zugerberg. Well, at least half way up, anyway. You need to transfer to the funicular railway to reach the summit. The Citaro is not limited to cities only. They work equally well in the suburbs too.Originally posted by Scania:Very few bus operators would buy a full low floor bus in Asia Pacific. Europe is a different market, different market have different wants (like econs), tastes and prefrences differ between regions.
Look at this region Australia buys Low Entry buses, SIngapore has Low Entry buses, very few or no full low floor buses.
Those Europe cities are flat, your Citaro can climb hill or not? Or need another option engine? -
When I was in Germany, I saw a Citaro zipping around some village like areas. So yes, I agree with The_Bus_Guide with the capabilities of Citaros on suburb routes.Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:Yes, the Citaro can climb hills. I rode one in Switzerland, up the Zugerberg. Well, at least half way up, anyway. You need to transfer to the funicular railway to reach the summit. The Citaro is not limited to cities only. They work equally well in the suburbs too. -
True Mercedes Benz's German quality!Originally posted by off_service:When I was in Germany, I saw a Citaro zipping around some village like areas. So yes, I agree with The_Bus_Guide with the capabilities of Citaros on suburb routes.
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Originally posted by MitEvolution:
The new design is called SC Chivalrous. It has an Irizar front, and looks similar but different from an Irizar (some famous Spanish coach builder), especially the rear, which is completely different from the Irizar.
[b]sc auto and soon chow are located in senoko.They are two different coach builder
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Irizar is very famous when bodied to Scania, therefore the name Scania Irizar.Originally posted by Scania:The new design is called SC Chivalrous. It has an Irizar front, and looks similar but different from an Irizar (some famous Spanish coach builder), especially the rear, which is completely different from the Irizar. -
LO3x have transverse engines.Originally posted by iveco:What's wrong with vertical engines? Don't the DDs come with it?
In fact, many car owners prefer the vertical engines over horizontal ones because it is less of a bitch to troubleshoot. Try troubleshooting a SUbaru motor and you'll know. -
Erh, transverse is the position of the engine , say longitudinal(seen in RWD cars) and transverse (seen in FWD cars). LO3x have vertical engines, but engine placed in transverse position(meaning engine is placed parallel with the axles), just like the B9TLs, VO3x and so on. B10Ms have horizontal engines, but placed in longitudinal postion(meaning engine is placed perpendicular to the axles). Merc O.405 if im not wrong is placed in longitudinal position too, with a horizontal engines(OM447h/hA/hLA, whereas the "h" stands for horizontal").Originally posted by Scania:LO3x have transverse engines. -
wah you and your partner scania love to hao lian your technical skills is it? Where you get tech skill one? I tot you skooling? from website is it?Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Erh, transverse is the position of the engine , say longitudinal(seen in RWD cars) and transverse (seen in FWD cars). LO3x have vertical engines, but engine placed in transverse position(meaning engine is placed parallel with the axles), just like the B9TLs, VO3x and so on. B10Ms have horizontal engines, but placed in longitudinal postion(meaning engine is placed perpendicular to the axles). Merc O.405 if im not wrong is placed in longitudinal position too, with a horizontal engines(OM447h/hA/hLA, whereas the "h" stands for horizontal"). -
Clarification: I am not related in any way with Scania N113CRB luver.Originally posted by SBS351M:wah you and your partner scania love to hao lian your technical skills is it? Where you get tech skill one? I tot you skooling? from website is it? -
Originally posted by Scania:Clarification: I am not related in any way with Scania N113CRB luver. Im also not related to Scania in any ways.
Actually i got all this sources from wikipedia, and some encyclopedias that i have. -
i dunno if i should laugh or cryOriginally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Erh, transverse is the position of the engine , say longitudinal(seen in RWD cars) and transverse (seen in FWD cars). -
Btw anyone seen those King Long city bus pics? I've seen some of them and its really nice. The interiors are designed until like european style, most importantly, its very bright!
The engines they use Cummins, confirmed, not Cumming, Cunning whatever. But i dont think they have a EuroIV bus yet. Maybe SMRT may consider buying CNG King Long buses? Cause i think buying CNG King Long buses isn't a bad idea, alot of Cummins CNG powered vehicles are in use, over 1000. Im beginning to favour CNG buses now. The most important question now is, is the bus suspension good anot? I found out that King Long uses a mix of leaf-spring and Pneumatic spring suspension, not full air. -
It's not a question of good suspension or what. What matters is that the operation costs for the current CNG buses are 20% to 30% higher than diesel operated buses.Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Btw anyone seen those King Long city bus pics? I've seen some of them and its really nice. The interiors are designed until like european style, most importantly, its very bright! The engines they use Cummins, confirmed, not Cumming, Cunning whatever. But i dont think they have a EuroIV bus yet. Maybe SMRT may consider buying CNG King Long buses? Cause i think buying CNG King Long buses isn't a bad idea, alot of Cummins CNG powered vehicles are in use, over 1000. Im beginning to favour CNG buses now. The most important question now is, is the bus suspension good anot? I found out that King Long uses a mix of leaf-spring and Pneumatic spring suspension, not full air. -
Oh ok, but what if its diesel-powered? Then does suspension comes into question? Hmm.... Btw if diesel-powered buses are preferred, think King Long will be out. Cuz it only satisfies EuroIII standards i think, if im not wrong. EuroIV are really strict, EuroV even more strict. Now only got Japanese buses, Scania and Mercs.Originally posted by off_service:It's not a question of good suspension or what. What matters is that the operation costs for the current CNG buses are 20% to 30% higher than diesel operated buses. -
Eh Cummins do have Euro 4 engines, so King Long may tender with a bus with Euro 4 engines.Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Oh ok, but what if its diesel-powered? Then does suspension comes into question? Hmm.... Btw if diesel-powered buses are preferred, think King Long will be out. Cuz it only satisfies EuroIII standards i think, if im not wrong. EuroIV are really strict, EuroV even more strict. Now only got Japanese buses, Scania and Mercs.