Linear bus stops
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LTA to test efficiency of linear bus stops
The Land Transport Authority is looking into the idea of linear bus stops to improve travelling speeds for buses.
These are bus stops constructed along and adjacent to the road, without the inlet known as the bus bay.
Studies conducted by the LTA indicate that buses trying to exit from bus bays are often blocked by traffic.
So it wants to evaluate the efficiency of linear bus stops, or straight bus lanes and stops.
It will use a planned road widening at Jalan Eunos as the platform for a trial.
Six pairs of linear bus stops will be built there to replace the existing ones.
This was announced at the launch of SBS Transit's "Move to the Rear" campaign.
LTA's Chief Executive, Brigadier General Yam Ah Mee, said bus operators had given feedback that at along high-traffic stretches, straight lanes might enable buses to move more quickly.
The road widening at Jalan Eunos is slated to begin in the third quarter of this year and will be completed in 2009. -
Originally posted by SMRT Buses:
So they're now installing that *toot* plastic hand thingy in buses as well??!!
[b]LTA to test efficiency of linear bus stops
This was announced at the launch of SBS Transit's "Move to the Rear" campaign.
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Originally posted by NickL_C151:So they're now installing that *toot* plastic hand thingy in buses as well??!!
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wait...what's the diff between the current linear and new linear bus stops? it seems to me this isn't something new. There are many linear bus stops out there right now...
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Wah.... Hong Kong have been using linear bus stops since...how many years ago....
Basically it means having 2 or more bus stop linear to each other, with different bus services stopping at each
E.g.
_____________ _____________
| .Bus Stop 1 . | | .Bus Stop 2 . |
|____________| |____________|
------------------- Road -----------------
Some bus services will stop at bus stop 1, while others stop at bus stop 2.
This will allow the drivers not need to queue for passengers unlike current single bus stop configs... -
is that something like the 2 bus stops outside MOE?
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take for example,Originally posted by XiaoTaro:Wah.... Hong Kong have been using linear bus stops since...how many years ago....
Basically it means having 2 or more bus stop linear to each other, with different bus services stopping at each
E.g.
_____________ _____________
| .Bus Stop 1 . | | .Bus Stop 2 . |
|____________| |____________|
------------------- Road -----------------
Some bus services will stop at bus stop 1, while others stop at bus stop 2.
This will allow the drivers not need to queue for passengers unlike current single bus stop configs...
services 1,2 and 3 call at stop 1.
services 4,5 and 6 call at stop 2.
wad if services 1,2 and 3 arrive at the same time? still must queue?
den if services 4 and 5 arrive, they will take up the space in bus stop 1?
isnt it same as 1 long bus stop? -
Yah lah, and this still will not solve the problem of bus exiting from bus bay being blocked. If the stop 2 still got people loading, then the bus at stop 1 still need to turn out to overtake.Originally posted by Pitot:take for example,
services 1,2 and 3 call at stop 1.
services 4,5 and 6 call at stop 2.
wad if services 1,2 and 3 arrive at the same time? still must queue?
den if services 4 and 5 arrive, they will take up the space in bus stop 1?
isnt it same as 1 long bus stop? -
the article says there will not be bus bays...
so if it means the bus behind not stopping but the bus infront stops..
die? because the bus behind have no chance of overtaking looking at the congestion during the peakhrs. -
I've never been to jln eunos... but in HK, normally linear bus stops either will have a bus bay for 2 lane roads or the linear bus stops will be built on roads with 3 lane per direction. And normally this roads do not have congestion problemsOriginally posted by Pitot:the article says there will not be bus bays...
so if it means the bus behind not stopping but the bus infront stops..
die? because the bus behind have no chance of overtaking looking at the congestion during the peakhrs.
When the bus(A) is at the bus bay/ bus stop (2), and a oncoming bus(B) needs to load at bus stop (1), the driver will overtake bus(A) and stop infront of it.
Actually i suggest LTA to try this out at Yishun Ave 2, sometimes the queues of buses for loading could extend till 6 to 7 buses, especially during morning peak where everyone tries their best to squeeze into a 969. The road however is never congested at that time. -
hey peeps. linear bus stops are maybe those used in Korea.
they r bus bays in a designated 2 lane wide bus lane (so that bus can move easy) where cars cannot enter n the bus just drive drive n stop drive drive n stop without hindrance from cars n bikes.
preferably a road divider is used to make out the bus lane.
naturally there are no! bus bays in a linear bus way lane.
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and we need a BG to run LTA?
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See today's Straits Times (Home Section). Has SBS737J on 93
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My sentiments exactly..Originally posted by LazerLordz:and we need a BG to run LTA? -
Is the speaker thing still on trial? I did not hear anything from the speakers when I got onto Service 15 today.Originally posted by ^tamago^:picture version.
And I guess the bus stop outside the condomium 'The Clearwater' had it's roads widened. -
Sad for the Transport to be managed by some one that does not take the bus.
It is pretty obvious why the idea was suggested in the 1st place.
The monkey is basically trying to re-invent the wheel and trying to save some buck from building bus lane.
But, the monkey turning a blind eye to the obvious jam that it would incur to the traffic behind the stopping bus.
Any 5 years old kid can tell you that.
Why do we have to pay so much money to some one that propose a solution that will incurred another bigger problem ???? -
x2Originally posted by Medicated Oil:But, the monkey turning a blind eye to the obvious jam that it would incur to the traffic behind the stopping bus.
Any 5 years old kid can tell you that.
Why do we have to pay so much money to some one that propose a solution that will incurred another bigger problem ????
I believe it would cause traffic jam too. -
The issue of space
Pilot project in Jalan Eunos will allow LTA to study the impact of linear bus stops
Letter from NALEEZA EBRAHIM
Deputy Director, Media Relations
Land Transport Authority
I refer to the recent letters on bus bays versus linear bus stops. It is important to put this issue in perspective.
Most major cities such as Tokyo, London and Hong Kong, do not have bus bays (also called bus lay-bys) along main roads because they take up considerable space.
Similarly, in Singapore, only one third of the bus stops have bus bays as providing them requires additional land that is not always available. Bus bays are usually put in when there is enough road reserve.
With increasing vehicle usage, the trade off between widening roads and retaining bus bays will have to be studied in land-scarce Singapore. The pilot project in Jalan Eunos seeks to do this.
LTA is widening the road at Jalan Eunos because traffic growth there has led to increased congestion. In doing so, the existing bus bays will have to be removed. This presents LTA with the opportunity to conduct a one-year trial to study the impact of linear bus stops — and weigh the improvement in bus travel speed against the impact on other traffic.
In this case, by adding a lane to each side of the road, all road users will be better off. Putting in linear bus stops will improve the journey times for buses along this stretch of road and will ensure that buses share in the gains from this project.
Many who have given feedback have suggested keeping bus bays and making it mandatory for motorists to give way to buses exiting bus bays.
We agree that this is a possible solution for situations where bus bays are still feasible. So far, LTA has been working with the public transport operators over the last three years to encourage motorists to do this without mandating it as a rule.
We have placed "Give-way-to-buses-exiting" traffic signs at some bus stops with bus bays, and collaborated with the Traffic Police to include the message "Give way to buses exiting" in the Road Courtesy Campaign.
LTA is reviewing the progress of this programme to determine if more needs to be done, taking into account public feedback. -
Originally posted by brotherchen1982:
A follow up comment here.
[b]The issue of space
Pilot project in Jalan Eunos will allow LTA to study the impact of linear bus stops
Letter from NALEEZA EBRAHIM
Deputy Director, Media Relations
Land Transport Authority
I refer to the recent letters on bus bays versus linear bus stops. It is important to put this issue in perspective.
Most major cities such as Tokyo, London and Hong Kong, do not have bus bays (also called bus lay-bys) along main roads because they take up considerable space.
Similarly, in Singapore, only one third of the bus stops have bus bays as providing them requires additional land that is not always available. Bus bays are usually put in when there is enough road reserve.
With increasing vehicle usage, the trade off between widening roads and retaining bus bays will have to be studied in land-scarce Singapore. The pilot project in Jalan Eunos seeks to do this.
LTA is widening the road at Jalan Eunos because traffic growth there has led to increased congestion. In doing so, the existing bus bays will have to be removed. This presents LTA with the opportunity to conduct a one-year trial to study the impact of linear bus stops — and weigh the improvement in bus travel speed against the impact on other traffic.
In this case, by adding a lane to each side of the road, all road users will be better off. Putting in linear bus stops will improve the journey times for buses along this stretch of road and will ensure that buses share in the gains from this project.
Many who have given feedback have suggested keeping bus bays and making it mandatory for motorists to give way to buses exiting bus bays.
We agree that this is a possible solution for situations where bus bays are still feasible. So far, LTA has been working with the public transport operators over the last three years to encourage motorists to do this without mandating it as a rule.
We have placed "Give-way-to-buses-exiting" traffic signs at some bus stops with bus bays, and collaborated with the Traffic Police to include the message "Give way to buses exiting" in the Road Courtesy Campaign.
LTA is reviewing the progress of this programme to determine if more needs to be done, taking into account public feedback. [/b] -
with the axeing of bus bays, i believe vehicles will still continue park illegally near bus-stops to wait or pick-up passengers.
currently, these vehicles are able to park at the edge of bus bays to minimise convenience to buses. with the axeing of bus bays, these vehicles would simply stop just in front or behind the bus-stops and buses need to squeeze into the 2nd lane and filter back to avoid these parked vehicles hence worsening the congestion! -
They should use 24-hr bus zones without any dotted lines. Let cars do left turns from non-bus lanes via a priority traffic signaling scheme.
I especially love these on the Harbour Bridge in Sydney. It's wonderful to ride a bus travelling at 80kmh while seeing cars stuck at 0 - 5 kmh. Wonderful! -
Ya.. will cause more congestion although the road are widen.Originally posted by SBS3688Y:with the axeing of bus bays, i believe vehicles will still continue park illegally near bus-stops to wait or pick-up passengers.
currently, these vehicles are able to park at the edge of bus bays to minimise convenience to buses. with the axeing of bus bays, these vehicles would simply stop just in front or behind the bus-stops and buses need to squeeze into the 2nd lane and filter back to avoid these parked vehicles hence worsening the congestion!