leyland olympian and volvo olympian
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which one is better? whats the difference in terms of the design?
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yea i also asking too, what is the diffrence between a Leyland Olympian and a Volvo Olympian
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As far as I know the LO is using Cummins Engine and The VO is using Volvo Engine. The Cummins one is harder to mantain from one I heard.
EDIT TO ADD: LO has 2 radiators (is it called radiators?) but VOs have 1 -
Where got 2 radiators lah??Originally posted by TIB1049L:As far as I know the LO is using Cummins Engine and The VO is using Volvo Engine. The Cummins one is harder to mantain from one I heard.
EDIT TO ADD: LO has 2 radiators (is it called radiators?) but VOs have 1
For Batch 2 & Batch 3 Volvos, it should be easy to differentiate since they have rectangular headlights. For Batch 1 VO3x & LO3x is a bit harder from far.
EXTERNAL Differences
For the first 100 of batch 1, they have emergency exits on the upper deck side windows whereas LO3x do not.
VO3x has only 1 long A/C grille with horizontal louvers at the back of the bus, above the engine cover, whereas LO3x has 2 square grilles instead.
VO3x Batch 1 only has 1 A/C grille on each side, behind the last rear window (or behind emergency exit). LO3x has 3 grilles (1 of them small) on the nearside and 2 grilles on the offside.
INTERNAL differences
VO3x has standing areas but not for LO3x.
VO3x has the TVmobile placed on the nearside for lower deck but LO3x is on the offside.
VO3x A/C filter is at the back of the bus, above the last row of seats so there's a big grille above the seats. LO3x has the grille facing downwards right after the exit door.
VO3x has only 4 A/C vents for passengers on the last row compared to 6 for LO3x. -
So the 'radiators' are called A/C grille
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Volvo Olympian better
in terms of mantainence wise, as, the values of the leyland, if faulty, must all be replaced, but for the volvo, it can be replaced separately. -
(leyland)cummins engine more powerful than volvo engine
leyland steering very stiff (hard to turn-must use alot of strength)
vovlo steering efficient and like others, the usual strength to steer a DD
leylands olympians are much harder to maintain compared to volvo olympians
leyland olympians do not have standing area for the lower deck
volvo olympians have standing area for the lower deck, (except 9265U - AR065) it has original seating configuration retained
leyland olympian definitely seats are blue and the headlight is circle
volvo olympian batch one seats are blue too and looks similar to leyland olmpian
volvo olympian batch 2/3 seats are red and headlights are square
only 9669M & 9670H do not have TV Mobile, all other leyland olympian and volvo olympian have TV Mobile
leyland olympian rear (back) have 2 square radiator grilles while the
volvo olympian has one rectangular one only...
leyland olympian can only be found on AMDEP, BRBP & SLBP services (with special case 9149Y on ARBP 10 and 9165A on ARBP 132)
volvo olympian batch one can be found in every depot
volvo olympian batch 2/3 can be found on all services from all depots except SLBP...
i think explain very clearly liao and very simply liao -
SBS9014C has red seatsOriginally posted by SBS9888Y:leyland olympian definitely seats are blue -
There a few other LO3x with pink seats alsoOriginally posted by SBS9806J:SBS9014C has red seats
And there are also some VO3x earlier batch with pink seats as well. -
U sure 9670H do not have TV Mobile?Originally posted by SBS9888Y:volvo olympian batch 2/3 seats are red and headlights are square
only 9669M & 9670H do not have TV Mobile, all other leyland olympian and volvo olympian have TV Mobile -
Whats the horsepower rating of the LO3x Cummins engine. Also, what is its torque? All i know is that the first batch VO3x has a TD102KF 245bhp engine. Batch 2 and 3 has a 285bhp engine D10A.Originally posted by SBS9888Y:(leyland)cummins engine more powerful than volvo engine -
254 with a whooping 1300nm of torque.Powerful for a 10.5litres engine
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Do note that B9TLs are marketed as Volvo Olympians by Volvo Buses.
So we actually have the old VOs (Batch 1 - 3) and new VOs (B9TL) -
it has the special LCD only found on upper deck frontOriginally posted by lemon1974:U sure 9670H do not have TV Mobile? -
some LO3x and VO3x B1 have refurbished seatsOriginally posted by SBS9806J:SBS9014C has red seats -
Originally posted by carbikebus:254 with a whooping 1300nm of torque.Powerful for a 10.5litres engine
1300nm??? OMG!!!!!! Thats really powerful (as in very torqey)!!!! Even the almost equally old 12 litre MB engine OM447hLA produces max of 1100nm !
Cummins power!!! -
indeed... acceleration on 179's hill is a thrill to watch... compare it with VO2x or VO3x... really differentOriginally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
1300nm??? OMG!!!!!! Thats really powerful (as in very torqey)!!!! Even the almost equally old 12 litre MB engine OM447hLA produces max of 1100nm !
Cummins power!!!
markII also not bad in acceleration
the newer the bus the less power in the engine? but B9TLS are fine wad -
huh? B9TL struggle up when it was going up the hill. You can experience this all this at the slope outside JE library and the one at queensway..Originally posted by SBS9888Y:indeed... acceleration on 179's hill is a thrill to watch... compare it with VO2x or VO3x... really different
markII also not bad in acceleration
the newer the bus the less power in the engine? but B9TLS are fine wad -
they don't produce as powerful engines as last time anymore... is it because its too expensive? or these buses do not need these powerful engines?Originally posted by chickenlittle2:huh? B9TL struggle up when it was going up the hill. You can experience this all this at the slope outside JE library and the one at queensway.. -
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FYI, i think the B9TLs engine is originally designed by Renault ... I still think that the Trident is still good for a new DD chassis. 335bhp engine for a bus... Really abit overpowered liao..Originally posted by SBS9888Y:they don't produce as powerful engines as last time anymore... is it because its too expensive? or these buses do not need these powerful engines? -
For citybus yes,But for coaches so-soOriginally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:FYI, i think the B9TLs engine is originally designed by Renault ... I still think that the Trident is still good for a new DD chassis. 335bhp engine for a bus... Really abit overpowered liao.. -
They cut back the power of most engines in order to reduce emissions such that the motor can achieve its Euro III standard. The Euro V would be more powerful because of technology which can filter out the particulates emitted, thus negating the need to cut back the engine's torque and power.Originally posted by SBS9888Y:they don't produce as powerful engines as last time anymore... is it because its too expensive? or these buses do not need these powerful engines? -
Hmm....but 12litres 420bhp engine can also achieve EuroIV emissions standards leh... Even those 620bhp V8 16 litres engine can also be EuroIV/V emission standards..Originally posted by Windy_hates_B10TLs:They cut back the power of most engines in order to reduce emissions such that the motor can achieve its Euro III standard. The Euro V would be more powerful because of technology which can filter out the particulates emitted, thus negating the need to cut back the engine's torque and power. Why is it that in order to be EuroIII power must be cut back? -
Coaches? I've seen a 420bhp Scania before, from Transtar , an executive 3axle DD coach.Originally posted by carbikebus:For citybus yes,But for coaches so-so But ya, 335bhp for a citybus is really alot of power! But the 12litre engine of the Volvo B12BLE produces 340bhp, ALOT FOR A SD CITYBUS!