Questions about Singapore Buses? Post here!!! (Part 2)
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Are the openings actually real openings or just for decoration? Buses like 1784R and 1833H have the "vents" missing. And behind it is just plain metal with a few holes here and there.Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:From the front, apart from their respective manufacturer's sysmbol, the N113 and O405 looked the same. On the B10M, however, there are openings to let the air flow into the radiator.
EDIT: lol... just in case, I'm referring to the opening above the headlights, not the one between the headlights.
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The first thing you may see here is the shape of the bus-actually it means how they are moulded to form the body shape.Originally posted by SBS9806J:Mercedes-Benz O405
Scania N113CRB
Volvo B10M Mark 2
What is/are the difference(s) of the WA bodies on the buses above?
For a Volvo B10M MKII WA, notice that the front grille is significantly larger than the Scania and Mercedes counterparts. It looks as if it is not fully covered, whereas the Scanias and Mercs had it look as if it was partially covered. (That was the reason for my preference to Scania N113CRB than to the MKIIs because the front of the MKII looks ugly.)
The side of the bus also bore distinctive features too. I recommend you look at the side where there is the door. Those of MKII are not flush to the surface; they are much more positioned into the interior of the bus but Scanias and Mercs don't. Also, all Merc WAs are OAC, so there is no chance that you can't differentiate a Scania from the other two.
The back is also crucial evidence to the body of these three. For MKIIs, the rego is positioned inwards. Tapering can be seen on all three sides: top, right and left. For Scania, the rego is positioned much to the right when you see the back facing you. Tapering can only be seen on the top of the bus. And for a Merc, the rego is to the centre and not inwards like MKIIs. The best thing to note for this kind: the placement of the signals. They are normally placed horizontally, not vertically.
For your reference, here are two pictures to show the evidence of the different types of bodies for different types of buses.
Volvo B10M MKII WA
Scania N113CRB
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Duplicated.
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Macam like use my points and then elaborate.Originally posted by TWS4793:The first thing you may see here is the shape of the bus-actually it means how they are moulded to form the body shape.
For a Volvo B10M MKII WA, notice that the front grille is significantly larger than the Scania and Mercedes counterparts. It looks as if it is not fully covered, whereas the Scanias and Mercs had it look as if it was partially covered. (That was the reason for my preference to Scania N113CRB than to the MKIIs because the front of the MKII looks ugly.)
For B10M Mk I to III, the radiataor is at the front, no choice, so radiator grille has to be big, there are bigger ones, on the front engined buses, like Leyland (Guy) Victories, Dennis Jubilant, B57s, B58s, OFs, etc.
MkII WAs are actually nicer looking than the DMs, you would love these when they run along JB roads. -
Can anyone help me to take a picture of the following buses if you happen to see these buses on the road?
SBS7456Z on svc 143
SBS7356D on svc 51
SBS7471D on svc 143
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I was wondering why buses like the cobus 3000, or the older model cobus 300 are not used in public transport company. It seems quite powerful, high capacity and low floor. Is it price? or performance? Instead this buses are mainly used in airports as shuttle buses from terminal to remote stand.
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SBS 2992A was former svc 174?
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BIH list says so...Originally posted by chickenlittle2:SBS 2992A was former svc 174?REG NO: SBS2992A
MAKE/MODEL: Volvo B10BLE / Volgren CR222 / CNG
CUR SVC: 105
DEPOT: SL
ADVERTISEMENT: Nil
DATE ENTER SVC: -
REMARKS: -
FIRST SVC: 174
VIN: YV3R4E3152A008672
FORMER SVCS: 334 -
How do you tell if a BNDEP bus is perm on a particular route?
I know last time they write markings on the bus. So, how do they mark on the bus? I have only encountered Sv 5 having present markings on the bus.
Btw, was SBS1702C ever a S192 perm during its short stint at SL last year?? SGwiki says so (may not be accurate). -
Have you seen the size of that bus ? it is almost big enough to cover 2 lanes of the road.Originally posted by dfs24:I was wondering why buses like the cobus 3000, or the older model cobus 300 are not used in public transport company. It seems quite powerful, high capacity and low floor. Is it price? or performance? Instead this buses are mainly used in airports as shuttle buses from terminal to remote stand. -
it was heard that it did a night shift on S174 once. Never perm on that service and its perm on 105. Its NOT the first service 2992 went into service onOriginally posted by chickenlittle2:SBS 2992A was former svc 174? -
I have a question:
Since Bukit Purmei Avenue loops at the end and the only trunk service passing by there is 131 (since 123 and 275 is loop service), do 131 pass by Bukit Purmei Ave's 2 bus stops with one going to St Michaels and one going to Bukit Merah? Just want to ask since I've never taken 131 before, -
Hmm , that 1702C is i think SL SP before moving on to HG .. seen it once on 252 last year...Originally posted by SBS2671B:Btw, was SBS1702C ever a S192 perm during its short stint at SL last year?? SGwiki says so (may not be accurate). -
I think 2992A is more of a cameo on 174 than perm. And first service doesn't mean "PERM" service?
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yesOriginally posted by BusSpeeder:I have a question:
Since Bukit Purmei Avenue loops at the end and the only trunk service passing by there is 131 (since 123 and 275 is loop service), do 131 pass by Bukit Purmei Ave's 2 bus stops with one going to St Michaels and one going to Bukit Merah? Just want to ask since I've never taken 131 before, -
A suggestion: Can those BIH guys separate perms from cameos? Because the 60 & 72 in SBS9888Y were only cameos, right?
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Both directions stop at both stops.Originally posted by BusSpeeder:I have a question:
Since Bukit Purmei Avenue loops at the end and the only trunk service passing by there is 131 (since 123 and 275 is loop service), do 131 pass by Bukit Purmei Ave's 2 bus stops with one going to St Michaels and one going to Bukit Merah? Just want to ask since I've never taken 131 before, -
Yes, it was temporary 192 perm. 1784R was long term MIA. When 1784R came back, this bus got transfered back to HG.Originally posted by SBS2671B:Btw, was SBS1702C ever a S192 perm during its short stint at SL last year?? SGwiki says so (may not be accurate). -
Anyone seen SBS3722G ever since it transfer to BNDEP?
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Yes, I have seen it. In fact I just took it from a remote stand to the airport terminal in Los Angeles. However, it seemed quite normal sized on the tarmac. Maybe its because the planes near by made it look big. Does anyone know the if cobus or any other bus company makes articulated airport buses too? I sat on a articulated one, which was also low floor but with a high rear (like the CNG) supposedly to house the engine.Originally posted by sBs_boy:Have you seen the size of that bus ? it is almost big enough to cover 2 lanes of the road. -
The main radiator vent would be at the centre. The smaller side vents are supplementary openings, I guess. Some old NAC buses do have these 'side' vents, the Volvo B57 and the MB OF1417, for example. How much these smaller vents contribute to the radiator's performance is unknown. But the fact that these smaller vents are being sealed up, I guess its insignificant.Originally posted by stooper:Are the openings actually real openings or just for decoration? Buses like 1784R and 1833H have the "vents" missing. And behind it is just plain metal with a few holes here and there.
EDIT: lol... just in case, I'm referring to the opening above the headlights, not the one between the headlights.
Some VO2x also have missing/sealed up vents. -
Yes on 15, sad thing.Originally posted by choww:Anyone seen SBS3722G ever since it transfer to BNDEP? -
Actually the 72 one is the first known photo after it lost its EDS.Originally posted by SBS9806J:A suggestion: Can those BIH guys separate perms from cameos? Because the 60 & 72 in SBS9888Y were only cameos, right? -
perm 66Originally posted by choww:Anyone seen SBS3722G ever since it transfer to BNDEP?
