Bus catches fire at Kent Ridge Terminal
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Sigh , the last time i seen this bus also on 188 , just a few days ago early in the morning.
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TIB996J was even worse than this. We still see TIB996J running, so TIB1118X also got hope.Originally posted by gorby107:This happened to TIB996J too.
My friend was onboard this bus and he experienced it.
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Wow. That's bad. TIB 0996JOriginally posted by SBS 233 X:TIB996J was even worse than this. We still see TIB996J running, so TIB1118X also got hope.
had it's departure time from Bedok Interchange delayed a few weeks back due to some engine problem (the back cover was opened).
I wonder whether it may be necessary that majority of the bendies be grounded from operation, considering how serious the problem had become. -
Eh I think this one we shall see, but to SMRT, 313 buses (bendies somemore) are important. London can afford to have their Citaro Gs taken off the road circa 2003/2004 because they had let some routemasters run a little bit longer to temporarily replace the Citaros. SMRT cannot use anything to replace their bendies except ehir UDs, even so, there would not be enough buses. probably have to follow TIBS, lease buses from SBS.Originally posted by TWS4793:Wow. That's bad. TIB 0996J had it's departure time from Bedok Interchange delayed a few weeks back due to some engine problem (the back cover was opened).
I wonder whether it may be necessary that majority of the bendies be grounded from operation, considering how serious the problem had become. -
Er.. based on the number of routes they now have, i dont think SBST can afford to lease their buses as well.. Unless SMRT dont mind some private companies like Chitson Transport, Woodlands Transport, Bedok Transport, AZ Bus, Tong Tar Transport, Comfort Bus etc etc etc..Originally posted by Scania:Eh I think this one we shall see, but to SMRT, 313 buses (bendies somemore) are important. London can afford to have their Citaro Gs taken off the road circa 2003/2004 because they had let some routemasters run a little bit longer to temporarily replace the Citaros. SMRT cannot use anything to replace their bendies except ehir UDs, even so, there would not be enough buses. probably have to follow TIBS, lease buses from SBS. -
that sounds like what SBS did in the 90s too!Originally posted by sBs_boy:Er.. based on the number of routes they now have, i dont think SBST can afford to lease their buses as well.. Unless SMRT dont mind some private companies like Chitson Transport, Woodlands Transport, Bedok Transport, AZ Bus, Tong Tar Transport, Comfort Bus etc etc etc..
on 61, 157 etc.... why was this so? can anyone explain?? please!
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i find that in majority of such incidents, the drivers did not use the fire extinguisher to stop the spread of fire and just waited for the SCDF firemen to arrive. is it because they panicked and forgot about the fire extinguisher onboard or wasted his time to evacuate the pac instead?
The bus manufacturers got to think of better ways to prevent such incidents from happening; maybe by improving the intercooler engine system, safety devices like circuit breakers? esp since these buses got to work for abt 18hrs per day, subj to frequent start/stop, sometimes still got to continue to work NightRider shifts and also warm and humid climate.
SBST and SMRTB should highlight such problems to their bus manufacturer and demand corrective actions and improved designs; esp for future purchases. -
I have seen one vehicular fire at Bukit Batok before (Toyota Hiace, YG9933-), the driver tried to extinguish the fire with an extinguisher but the fire was just overwhelming and within 30 seconds the entire front of the van was engulfed. The flames reached 5 metres and above and the driver had no choice but to look on in despair as the flames burnt the van away, the civil defence arrived five minutes later and even with proper equipment, took another five minutes to secure the area and put out all isolated fires on the van.
Compare it to a bus, its much of a problem, bigger, hotter engine, bigger area (more combustables), and the heat, even standing far away, its really a hell of a big stench and heat (like next to an oven)...
So kudos to the civil defence crew that saved the bus under such circumstances, I believe many saw MAN among other bands of buses burnt to destruction on the North South Highway without any extinguishers/fire rescue crew within tens of kilometres, I have saw many much (but sadly no pictures...) -
Even so if both SBST & SMRTB "World class Technician especially those from BN" did screw up the servicing,Might also see same thing happens mah.Both SBST & SMRTB buses had mini water sprinkler to control fire but not total protect.Originally posted by SBS3688Y:i find that in majority of such incidents, the drivers did not use the fire extinguisher to stop the spread of fire and just waited for the SCDF firemen to arrive. is it because they panicked and forgot about the fire extinguisher onboard or wasted his time to evacuate the pac instead?
The bus manufacturers got to think of better ways to prevent such incidents from happening; maybe by improving the intercooler engine system, safety devices like circuit breakers? esp since these buses got to work for abt 18hrs per day, subj to frequent start/stop, sometimes still got to continue to work NightRider shifts and also warm and humid climate.
SBST and SMRTB should highlight such problems to their bus manufacturer and demand corrective actions and improved designs; esp for future purchases. -
Still remember the SBS double decker caught fire.
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well 1 habit down..1 UD replaces..hopefully not well
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if i remember, someone told me that bendies are easiest to catch fire because the engine is behind and if something happens there, back will get fire but not the front unless the fire too severe.Originally posted by carbikebus:Then front/Mid engine vehicles cannot catch fire is it,What CxxK are you saying sia
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It doesn't matter if it share the same engine as rigid,Horsepower make the differences,Like Volvo D10A 245 for rigid and 285 for DD.I forsee a custom made body will happens soon. -
Ouch! Well, the last time I saw something on fire was my friends house. Well, you're all right about overheating bendys. I sat at the back of bendys and it's hot. They better invest in stronger, better intercoolers or radiators for bendys. When I ride Volvo B10M Mark II's, especially those with strong gearboxes, they don't overheat. The theory of overheating due to excessive weight could be the cause.
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I agree with your last sentence .Originally posted by tintinspartan:Ouch! Well, the last time I saw something on fire was my friends house. Well, you're all right about overheating bendys. I sat at the back of bendys and it's hot. They better invest in stronger, better intercoolers or radiators for bendys. When I ride Volvo B10M Mark II's, especially those with strong gearboxes, they don't overheat. The theory of overheating due to excessive weight could be the cause.
Actually , even if the intercooler and radiator is the best , it wouldnt help . The solution to this , is to use an engine that is technically specified to suit bendy buses . -
ya. by the way, is the bus scrapped though i know that the front is intact. shouldn't be, right?Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:I agree with your last sentence .
Actually , even if the intercooler and radiator is the best , it wouldnt help . The solution to this , is to use an engine that is technically specified to suit bendy buses . -
depends on the damage 7253S was scrapped but maybe that was worseOriginally posted by BusSpeeder:ya. by the way, is the bus scrapped though i know that the front is intact. shouldn't be, right? -
If bendies really easy to catch fire then you will see 6-8 bendies scrapped due to fire in a year by SMRT.Where's your fucking logic in this,Fire can happens to any vehicles be it DDs,Rigids,Cars with the best intercooler,Motorbike.Investigation shows that the bus didn't have the minimum water level required at the radiator and coolant box.Cases of lazy SL
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1070Z on 187 brokedown today , seen with rear engine cover opened
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seems like this kind of engine cover opening with breakdown sign is beginning to become a scare.Originally posted by swee_heng:1070Z on 187 brokedown today , seen with rear engine cover opened
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yeah. fire can happen to any vehicles. the new paper says that a 16 year old honda civic caught fire on tuesday
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can post here?Originally posted by rookies:yeah. fire can happen to any vehicles. the new paper says that a 16 year old honda civic caught fire on tuesday -
FIRST, there was some smoke. And then his car went up in flames - along with $15,000 in cash.
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Mr Ngoh Lim Seng, 51, an operations supervisor, said he had kept a plastic bag containing the cash next to him in the car.
He was on his way to pay the eight workers under him their half-monthly salary.
Mr Ngoh was driving out from his HDB estate along Tampines Avenue 4 on Tuesday afternoon when he noticed smoke coming out from the bonnet of his 16-year-old Honda Civic.
'I got out to take a look and the next thing I knew, a fire had broken out,' he said.
'A few people nearby tried to put out the fire but it didn't help.'
Within minutes, the flames engulfed the entire car.
Curious passersby and residents also gathered, and some of them took pictures of the burning car.
Mr Winston Lee, 26, a car polisher, said the smoke was so thick it was 'impossible to see the inside of the car'.
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Mr Ngoh, with his burning car. --
SMELT SMOKE
He had smelt the smoke from two blocks away.
The Singapore Civil Defence Force said it received a call about the car just before 4.40pm.
Two fire bikes and a fire engine were sent to the scene, and the blaze was put out in five minutes.
When The New Paper arrived, Mr Ngoh had a charred bundle of what looked like currency notes.
It was a little thicker than a school notebook, and on some notes, the serial numbers could still be seen.
Mr Ngoh declined to let us photograph the notes.
He said he also lost some official documents which he had kept in his car.
'I'm upset and very hurt - this car has gone everywhere with me,' he said.
His wife, who rushed to the scene on hearing the news, said Mr Ngoh had spent more than $10,000 replacing worn-out parts of his car over the years.
Said Madam Wendy Toh, 45, a housewife: 'He never spent so much money or effort to take care of any of our two previous cars.'
The couple, who have a 20-year-old son, were grateful to those who tried to help put out the fire.
Mr Raymond Chun, 37, shopkeeper at an electronics store nearby saw the smoke and ran to help.
DIVERTED TRAFFIC
Said Mr Chun: 'I took a mini fire extinguisher that I keep in my car and tried to help put out the flames but they just became bigger and bigger.'
A larger extinguisher kept in the shop was of no help either.
He and his colleague ended up helping to divert traffic away from the burning car 'just in case the car exploded'.
Four former Temasek Polytechnic students from India, who live in a flat overlooking the spot, were shocked and 'a little scared' by the fire.
One of them, a 20-year-old who gave his name only as Adarsh, said he had recorded the entire incident using his handphone camera.
The video clip showed several small explosions as the car burnt.
So, is there any hope that Mr Ngoh may be able to recover his company's money?
He would not comment further, but a bank officer who declined to be named said that if the notes are badly burnt or mutilated, the bank would not accept them.
A check with sources in the insurance industry showed that usually only the car is covered, and not what is in it. So a claim for property destroyed in such an accident was unlikely.
SCDF is investigating the fire.
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In another traffic incident, a car caught fire along Ang Mo Kio Industrial Park 2 on Thursday afternoon.
Part of the vehicle's engine melted and windows cracked.
Emergency crews managed to put out the fire quickly, but the damage was done.
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So how does that make bendies more prone to fire?Originally posted by BusSpeeder:if i remember, someone told me that bendies are easiest to catch fire because the engine is behind and if something happens there, back will get fire but not the front unless the fire too severe.
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i only remember someone said that few years ago. i don't know. but maybe its because the bendies's engine is way behind and since its articulated, cannot make connection. i also don't know. i only remember someone told me that bendies easiest to catch fire.Originally posted by stooper:So how does that make bendies more prone to fire? -
Not sure if the 0405 and the 0405G share the same engine, but if that's the case, the increase in gross weight as well as the addition of a turbo-charger may be factors behind the higher proportion of burning bendies, because of the increased strain on the engine.Originally posted by BusSpeeder:i only remember someone said that few years ago. i don't know. but maybe its because the bendies's engine is way behind and since its articulated, cannot make connection. i also don't know. i only remember someone told me that bendies easiest to catch fire.