Scania K230UB Bus Deployments: Any suggestions?
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21 morning how to single deck..?
i wait the bus at eunos ... bus came always ppl packed at the door
personally i feel 145 is always packed -
Actually seems they are so packed.. They should deploy VO3x or LO3x on these services.. Even if they deploy B9TL is useless as the PIW cannot even board the bus..Originally posted by Scania:Replace any and you will get chaos, peak hours the 2 services are packed, it seems that you need to travel east more often to observe other services. -
For your information, 21 has PIWs taking it, and they usually board at off peak hours (one of them boards at 4+pm from Tampines to Bedok Resevoir Rd), that is from my own observation.Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Actually seems they are so packed.. They should deploy VO3x or LO3x on these services.. Even if they deploy B9TL is useless as the PIW cannot even board the bus.. -
I got see before BC go to the exit and deploy the ramp for a...................baby pram to be rolled on by the parents..
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Come on, pass the courtesy on.Originally posted by alleggerita:I got see before BC go to the exit and deploy the ramp for a...................baby pram to be rolled on by the parents.. -
Well, it's not that I don's want to be courteous or what..but a ramp deployed for a baby pram? That's not the primary use of the ramp..the ramp is for PIWs..Originally posted by Class 55 Deltic Fan:Come on, pass the courtesy on. -
Ya lor.. since it is off-peak, a SD is sufficient.. Btw, they can leave 2 or 3 B9TL there and other exchange with SD..Originally posted by Scania:For your information, 21 has PIWs taking it, and they usually board at off peak hours (one of them boards at 4+pm from Tampines to Bedok Resevoir Rd), that is from my own observation. -
Why do you want the B9TLs out of 21 and 76 so much? Why not 198, when 198 is more packed, why not slbp gives all of its 51 B9TLs since 51 is packed too? 2, 12, 80, 147 also packed, why not these 4 services?Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Ya lor.. since it is off-peak, a SD is sufficient.. Btw, they can leave 2 or 3 B9TL there and other exchange with SD..
You never know when a PIW needs to board the bus during peak hours. Also, it seems very useless if you put it onto some other service which either is packed, or doesn't have the PIW catchment? -
JUST my GUESSING...
i personally feel that 21 going to be full WAB soon... juz my feelins... -
Is like I see these services having super low frequency during the off-peak hours.. Not to stuck these DD on these services, they can just deploy WAB SD.. They can transfer these WAB DD to those service who do not have it like Service30 ,Service 99, Svc 174, Svc 157, Svc 74, Svc 197, Svc 165, Svc 166.. These buses passer-by neighbourhood and some also hospitals and polyclinic..Originally posted by Scania:Why do you want the B9TLs out of 21 and 76 so much? Why not 198, when 198 is more packed, why not slbp gives all of its 51 B9TLs since 51 is packed too? 2, 12, 80, 147 also packed, why not these 4 services?
You never know when a PIW needs to board the bus during peak hours. Also, it seems very useless if you put it onto some other service which either is packed, or doesn't have the PIW catchment? -
The thing is....Originally posted by patdog112:JUST my GUESSING...
i personally feel that 21 going to be full WAB soon... juz my feelins...
there is limited number of WABs around in SBST Fleet. What they are doing now, is to spread their buses to as many services as possible. This way, the number of PIWs who can enjoy these services could then be greatly increase. Never mind the frequency of WAB arrival. At least, they have have an additional option other than taking the train or the other current WAB service. Thus, it is unlikely that Service 21 will go full WAB. At least not in the near future. -
Low frequency ha? 14 mins considered low? Sometimes wait 51, 198 more than 14 mins alreaddy. It really seems that you want more B9TLs in slbp.... . Going through the list ah, which one of the above, except 165, isn't as packed as 21 during peak hours and do you think there is a demand from PIW? And many of the above services have almost the same frequency as 21, 174 can be worse during off peak.Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Is like I see these services having super low frequency during the off-peak hours.. Not to stuck these DD on these services, they can just deploy WAB SD.. They can transfer these WAB DD to those service who do not have it like Service30 ,Service 99, Svc 174, Svc 157, Svc 74, Svc 197, Svc 165, Svc 166.. These buses passer-by neighbourhood and some also hospitals and polyclinic.. -
Low Frequency = No Demand ?Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Is like I see these services having super low frequency during the off-peak hours.. Not to stuck these DD on these services, they can just deploy WAB SD.. They can transfer these WAB DD to those service who do not have it like Service30 ,Service 99, Svc 174, Svc 157, Svc 74, Svc 197, Svc 165, Svc 166.. These buses passer-by neighbourhood and some also hospitals and polyclinic..
Based on your statement made, theres simply no logic behind it. Theres a reason why the frequency is so good for some service even when it is the Off-Peak Hr. Take 147 / 238 for example. If thats the case, why dont i say, take away the 198's B9 and deploy on other service like 74 which has a better demand as compared to 198 since 198's demand is also not that good either. BBDep could solve the problem by putting some of the SP Mk3s on it. -
Are u pretty sure Svc 198 got low demand? U live here? BTW, every morning at about 8.15am along JW st 41 had a PIW communter onboard.. Come to the interchange and u would see the demand for svc 198... Svc 74 where got high frequency, off -peak that time only got 5-6 people.. Actually my statement is very easy, pls dun drag it further.. Deploy SD and replace some WAB DD on other services which do not have any WAB buses.. I guess every service would have a PIW communter..Originally posted by sBs_boy:Low Frequency = No Demand ?
Based on your statement made, theres simply no logic behind it. Theres a reason why the frequency is so good for some service even when it is the Off-Peak Hr. Take 147 / 238 for example. If thats the case, why dont i say, take away the 198's B9 and deploy on other service like 74 which has a better demand as compared to 198 since 198's demand is also not that good either. BBDep could solve the problem by putting some of the SP Mk3s on it. -
Same thing applied here. Are you sure that 76 and 21 got LOW demand ? Do you take this 2 services everyday ?Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Are u pretty sure Svc 198 got low demand? U live here? BTW, every morning at about 8.15am along JW st 41 had a PIW communter onboard.. Come to the interchange and u would see the demand for svc 198... Svc 74 where got high frequency, off -peak that time only got 5-6 people.. Actually my statement is very easy, pls dun drag it further.. Deploy SD and replace some WAB DD on other services which do not have any WAB buses.. I guess every service would have a PIW communter.. -
Yeah.. cos my work requires me to travel around.. Everytime I see a empty B9TL in the afternoon..Originally posted by sBs_boy:Same thing applied here. Are you sure that 76 and 21 got LOW demand ? Do you take this 2 services everyday ? -
Empty buses at 1 point along the route doesnt mean that the whole route the bus will be empty. Dont you understand the meaning of sterotyping ?Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Yeah.. cos my work requires me to travel around.. Everytime I see a empty B9TL in the afternoon..
I always see 198 empty along bukit merah area. Probably the buses are under-utilitize too. -
yaya.. imagine i took 21 from kallang to pasir ris?? ai ya, i only say the truth. Anyway, i totally disagree svc 21 to be fully WAB.. That is waste of resources.. Just like Svc 88 having so many B9TL..Originally posted by sBs_boy:Empty buses at 1 point along the route doesnt mean that the whole route the bus will be empty. Dont you understand the meaning of sterotyping ? -
eh everytime at Eunos, 51 is empiter than 21, so should take the 51 ones out and give amdep?Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Yeah.. cos my work requires me to travel around.. Everytime I see a empty B9TL in the afternoon.. -
Every service has its different peak periods and different peak areas. You may not realize, but the services you "recommend" for being WAB may have the same situation at that same time when you took 21. Also, you must consider how early the bus is, or how late the bus in front is.Originally posted by chickenlittle2:yaya.. imagine i took 21 from kallang to pasir ris?? ai ya, i only say the truth. Anyway, i totally disagree svc 21 to be fully WAB.. That is waste of resources.. Just like Svc 88 having so many B9TL.. -
everytime? Actually i do agree Svc 51 getting so many B9TL.. They should give out but not AMDEP, for what, they cannot handle so much bus.. Give to services like Svc 174, Svc 157 or Svc 30..Originally posted by Scania:eh everytime at Eunos, 51 is empiter than 21, so should take the 51 ones out and give amdep? -
What is the waste of resources that you are talking about when svc 21 is NOT even a full WAB service. Dont you get it ? the reason that they are WAB is because 50% of the Fleet are WAB.Originally posted by chickenlittle2:yaya.. imagine i took 21 from kallang to pasir ris?? ai ya, i only say the truth. Anyway, i totally disagree svc 21 to be fully WAB.. That is waste of resources.. Just like Svc 88 having so many B9TL..
It is a common knowledge that Svc 88 would be 1 of the WAB service in near future. Whether you like it or not, you still gotta accept the fact. Thats something that we CANT change. Do you think they care about so many B9s on a particular service ? Answer is NO. As long as they put the buses on high demand route, Passengers are happy, revenues are high and at the same time serving the PIWs.
Why are you so "gan chiong" ? More WABs are coming in very soon within this few years. Cant you just wait ? -
Hahaz, of course can be change.. write in lor.. Btw, it is incorrect to focus on one service.. FOr the first time, it should be dispersed to others services.. I just feel pity for those PIW communter who are living in areas that do not even have a WAB bus on the service they are taking..Originally posted by sBs_boy:What is the waste of resources that you are talking about when svc 21 is NOT even a full WAB service. Dont you get it ? the reason that they are WAB is because 50% of the Fleet are WAB.
It is a common knowledge that Svc 88 would be 1 of the WAB service in near future. Whether you like it or not, you still gotta accept the fact. Thats something that we CANT change. Do you think they care about so many B9s on a particular service ? Answer is NO. As long as they put the buses on high demand route, Passengers are happy, revenues are high and at the same time serving the PIWs.
Why are you so "gan chiong" ? More WABs are coming in very soon within this few years. Cant you just wait ? -
Yes.. I know that you want to spread out the WABs to as many services as possible. If thats the case, might as well we follow Rapid KL style. 1 or 2 WAB on EACH Service.Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Hahaz, of course can be changed.. write in lor..
If this is the case, PIWs suffer. Might as well dont deploy them in the first place.
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As much as I know, slbp is running at near full capacity now, with only a few parking lots left at slbp (due to chassis taking the parking lots). amdep still has the option to use 4 interchanges as overnight parking to park their buses in, even though it has the most buses, at 780+Originally posted by chickenlittle2:everytime? Actually i do agree Svc 51 getting so many B9TL.. They should give out but not AMDEP, for what, they cannot handle so much bus.. Give to services like Svc 174, Svc 157 or Svc 30..