Any Bus Routes lovers out there?
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There is actually buses from Braddell Rd to connect pple to most of the places that 88 serves already.Originally posted by tanjun:I delibrately let 49 run to Old Airport Rd to grab more passengers for the demand.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Regarding the above problem of insufficient number of bus routes plying Lor 8 Toa Payoh which causes a high demand, hopefully, this new rerouted service 88 can help out with 238.
Benefits:
1. Help to alleviate 238 demand from Lor 8 Toa Payoh to Toa Payoh Int.
2. Provides a direct link from Lor 8 Toa Payoh to Bishan and AMK MRT.
3. Provides a direct link from Lor 8 Toa Payoh to more schools in Bishan and AMK area like Catholic High, Ang Mo Kio Sec, Da Qiao Pr Sch, Raffles Institution.
Disadvantages
1. 1 more fare stage means it will take longer from TP to other places outside TP.
To Bishan, there is 13, which duplicates the 88 route to AMK.
To AMK/part of Hougang, there is 159.
To Hougang Central there is 153.
The part after after Hougang has no other services, but then the journey form tp to there is at least 50 mins and ppl will choose other means to get there.
Actually I believe trunk services shouldnt ply Lor 8 on its way out of tp. It's simply too out of the way. Lor 6 maybe, but plying lor 8 leaves out a huge part of the tp population, unless u r talking about lor 1->lor 4-> lor 6->tp east->lor 8. Moreover, lor 8 is a narrow road and is not very easy for buses to manoevre, especially DD ones. Similarly, lor 5 has a hump and shouldnt get trunk services too. -
I guess many people will have heard of the recent news from SMRT about their extension of NR1 and NR6 to HarbourFront. I have done in detail stating the likely bus stops that they will ply with effect from 21st Sep 07, their new routes.
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omg.... the routes are long i wonder how many fare stages are there
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So far, if I don't rmb wrongly, when service 88 was first introduced, dds were already deployed onto this service not long after that. This means that even it duplicates service 13 from Bishan to AMK, 159 from AMK to Hougang, there is demand for the service.Originally posted by tvcnq:There is actually buses from Braddell Rd to connect pple to most of the places that 88 serves already.
To Bishan, there is 13, which duplicates the 88 route to AMK.
To AMK/part of Hougang, there is 159.
To Hougang Central there is 153.
The part after after Hougang has no other services, but then the journey form tp to there is at least 50 mins and ppl will choose other means to get there.
Actually I believe trunk services shouldnt ply Lor 8 on its way out of tp. It's simply too out of the way. Lor 6 maybe, but plying lor 8 leaves out a huge part of the tp population, unless u r talking about lor 1->lor 4-> lor 6->tp east->lor 8. Moreover, lor 8 is a narrow road and is not very easy for buses to manoevre, especially DD ones. Similarly, lor 5 has a hump and shouldnt get trunk services too.
This applies to the stretch along Hougang Ave 2 to Eunos MRT where there are 25, 55 and 854. It applies especially for 25 and 854. They duplicates all the way from Hougang Ave 2 to Bedok. However, both of them have high demand during the peak hours.
Service 25 during Saturdays around 0730.
When the bus came, it already had quite a number of people. There were few seats available and many people were standing. The bus is a merc 0405 and it came 5 minutes after a VSO has left. -
u don't need worry... both SMRT nightrider and SBST nite owl are flat fare. for SMRT is $3 regardless of ez-link card or cash, but you get a free transfer if the transfer is done withing 45 mins of alighting from ur previous service. for SBST is $2.50 for ez-link card and $3 for cash. no free transfer though.Originally posted by patdog112:omg.... the routes are long i wonder how many fare stages are there -
Perhaps I should make myself clearer. I meant that there is no need to get 88 to ply lor 8 as there are already services along braddell rd, quite close to lor 8, to go to the places. People in central toa payoh only has 88 to connect them to the part that duplicates 13 and as far as I know, the demand is quite high. Sorry if I wasnt clear enough.Originally posted by tanjun:So far, if I don't rmb wrongly, when service 88 was first introduced, dds were already deployed onto this service not long after that. This means that even it duplicates service 13 from Bishan to AMK, 159 from AMK to Hougang, there is demand for the service. -
It's ok. No problem. The discussion is quite enjoyable rather for me to know that actually what I strongly feel that is beneficial may not be appliacable to the rest.Originally posted by tvcnq:Perhaps I should make myself clearer. I meant that there is no need to get 88 to ply lor 8 as there are already services along braddell rd, quite close to lor 8, to go to the places. People in central toa payoh only has 88 to connect them to the part that duplicates 13 and as far as I know, the demand is quite high. Sorry if I wasnt clear enough.
Can any 238 regulars tell me the hotspots for 238? Is it the industrial estate at Toa Payoh that gives rise to this high demand?
Cos if the residential estates are the ones that provide the demand for this service,
suppose if I am living at Lor 8 Toa Payoh, I will seriously like to have a Trunk service plying at Lor 8 especially if I am living at around Blk 13 Lor 8 Toa Payoh. -
I suppose your question is directed at me.Originally posted by tanjun:It's ok. No problem. The discussion is quite enjoyable rather for me to know that actually what I strongly feel that is beneficial may not be appliacable to the rest.
Can any 238 regulars tell me the hotspots for 238? Is it the industrial estate at Toa Payoh that gives rise to this high demand?
Cos if the residential estates are the ones that provide the demand for this service,
suppose if I am living at Lor 8 Toa Payoh, I will seriously like to have a Trunk service plying at Lor 8 especially if I am living at around Blk 13 Lor 8 Toa Payoh.
Hotspots of 238 are as follows (by order)
Alighting Pax
1. Toa Payoh East (Blk 23)
2. Toa Payoh Lor 8 (Opp TPY Polyclinic)
3. Toa Payoh Lor 6 (Blk 32)
4. Toa Payoh Lor 8 (Blk 227)
The top 3 are interchangable depending on the trip and pax load, though majority of the cases are in this order.
Boarding Pax
1. Toa Payoh Lor 6 (Blk 27)
2. Toa Payoh Lor 8 (Opp Blk 231)
3. Toa Payoh East (Blk 25)
4. Toa Payoh Lor 8 (Toa Payoh Polyclinic)
5. Toa Payoh Lor 8 (Opp Blk 227)
No 2 to 4 are interchangable. This explains Duty 12S doing downroutes from No 3 in the morning.
The 3 mentioned stops below are transfer points (quite obvious la)
1. Toa Payoh Int
2. Braddell Rd (Blk 219)
3. Toa Payoh Lor 8 (Blk 210)
If I live at Blk 13, I got Service 57 232 and 238. I would personally prefer a quick route to the west on Lor 6 (Pei Chun side). Say like do a 57 then zao PIE after Trellis to maybe Jurong Town Hall Rd or Toh Guan or something... -
lol. Just a clarification, I don't have the intention to direct the above qn to you. By the way, thanks for sharing the hotspots of service 238 as I seldom take this service.
As you have said, I have noticed that most of the hotspots are near residential houses, I just find it absurd that if I live at Blk 13 and is going to a sec sch like Catholic High located in the neighbouring town Bishan, either I can take 238, MRT to Bishan and 410 or walk a bit of distance to Lor 6 Toa Payoh and take 57 to Bishan Rd, and transfer to 88.
I will need at least two transfers to get to most places. I just find it very troublesome for the residents. -
From Pasir Ris St 51 there to tam ave 9 area also. Take bus have to take 359 change 39 or 81 etc then change to 29 or 293 but it will be much faster to walk abit insteadOriginally posted by tanjun:I will need at least two transfers to get to most places. I just find it very troublesome for the residents. -
Originally posted by tanjun:
Actually its a matter of getting used to it. I walk to Jln Toa Payoh sometimes to take 966 26 or 31. I take 238 to Stadium to change 59. As for northbound, my preferred service is 13 over 159/88. West side I change twice - once at Int, once at trellis.
lol. Just a clarification, I don't have the intention to direct the above qn to you. By the way, thanks for sharing the hotspots of service 238 as I seldom take this service.
As you have said, I have noticed that [b]most of the hotspots are near residential houses, I just find it absurd that if I live at Blk 13 and is going to a sec sch like Catholic High located in the neighbouring town Bishan, either I can take 238, MRT to Bishan and 410 or walk a bit of distance to Lor 6 Toa Payoh and take 57 to Bishan Rd, and transfer to 88.
I will need at least two transfers to get to most places. I just find it very troublesome for the residents. [/b]
catholic high simply take 13 from braddell Rd - easier than your mentioned routes.
you are right, the hotspots mostly come from the residential areas. The workers along the route mainly alight/board at Blk 227. If you see alot of people getting onto 238 between 0745 and 0845hrs at TPY, most of them are heading to that bus stop. As for going home they mix with the go-home crowd and that happens between 1715-1845hrs. -
Yup. Agree with you on this. Different people living at different places will already have different lifestyles.Originally posted by service_238:Actually its a matter of getting used to it. I walk to Jln Toa Payoh sometimes to take 966 26 or 31. I take 238 to Stadium to change 59. As for northbound, my preferred service is 13 over 159/88. West side I change twice - once at Int, once at trellis.
catholic high simply take 13 from braddell Rd - easier than your mentioned routes.
you are right, the hotspots mostly come from the residential areas. The workers along the route mainly alight/board at Blk 227. If you see alot of people getting onto 238 between 0745 and 0845hrs at TPY, most of them are heading to that bus stop. As for going home they mix with the go-home crowd and that happens between 1715-1845hrs.
Like for people living around my area, it is quite common to see them taking 70 from my hse bus stop all the way to suntec or shenton way even though the journey is around 1 hr long as compared to bus and transfer to MRT.
Anyway, just last sat, waited for 147 for 30 mins never come so in the end, take 13, 853 and then 70 back. Check on IRIS at home about freq of 147 and I realise that there is serious bunching around Chinatown area as they have closed the roads for Mid Autumn Festival. -
Presenting to you all the Transitlink Bus Guide version of 859A.
In my opinion, I prefer the fact that SMRT extend the operation hours of 859 than to introduce this new service 859A. Though, 859 is a trunk service, it serves within Yishun and Sembawang towns. For just 35 mins, why not just extend it instead of intoducing another A service which makes things more confusing?
Just my thought
Does anyone have any idea of the demand of commuters around Pasir Ris St 51 or the demand of 359?Originally posted by SBS9889U:From Pasir Ris St 51 there to tam ave 9 area also. Take bus have to take 359 change 39 or 81 etc then change to 29 or 293 but it will be much faster to walk abit instead
One suggestion is to reroute one service along Pasir Ris Dr 1 to ply Pasir Ris St 51 such as 81, 39, 109, 53. -
Presenting to you my one of my fantasy bus routes
129 from Yio Chu Kang - Changi Airport Cargo Complex (loop)
For this route, my main concern whether extending 129 to AMK following 86 route will be a good idea.
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5 of the 13 SBST Premium Bus services are available in Transitlink Bus Guide versions.
Besides, the guides for NR1 and NR6 have been updated. All thanks to Tamago for providing an e-guide on the latest night bus routes. So, it actually follows 133 route instead of 36 route. Thanks anyway. I hope that SBST will do something about its Ns in the near future. -
i wonder what time will NR5/6 finish such a huge loop sia
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Transitlink version of new 372. -
Transitlink Bus Guide Version of 538, 539, 540.
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Transitlink Bus Guide 2007 version of 542, 543, 544, 545.
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Transitlink Version of Cityshopper services.
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Your 579 never link properly. I help you linkOriginally posted by tanjun:
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New updated service 400 -
6 new premium bus services available in Transitlink Bus Guide version. 549 route has some problem as mentioned earlier. I will wait until the SBS Transit website has updated the route details of it.
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hi there
im also a bus fanatic
well, talking about bus route lovers, i like bus route 34 witch operates from Punggol - Changi Airport as it's route is the shortest among the other buses operating to Changi Airport