SMRT Buses New Fleets

• ZYX2005

  26 Feb 08, 15:27

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  IMO if they die die to save cost might as well buy WAB Hinos,Isuzus,Nissan Diesels or even Daewoos.Body like Gemilang,Deftech,SKS,Badanbas will suit their budget.

  HINO rainbiow Ii rocks. with HYBRID or fuel cell hybrid FHV model

  Nissan Disel WAB are not so nice looking. so umm no thanks

  Daewoo may buy RHD version Integrated from korea. not too bad looking but have the hino Raibow 1 look.

  can even try Hyundai bus from korea. bbus look like Mitshibishi Aerostar citybus WAB.

  Isuzu ergas have volgren like front n very nice. pity isuzu Cubics are out of production. they had Bolton bodywork renault PR100 fronts.

  King Loong bus in gemilang bodywork i think in penang. the king Loong specs r not bad and the citybus designs are good. yet to sit a jjing loong so dunno ride comfort.

   

  dongfeng zhou bus rocks. not bad ride in KL under rapidl. think is integrated bodywork but look suspiciuosly like gemilang. interior wise exactly like gemilang.

  ZYX

   

   

   

• SBS7484P

  26 Feb 08, 17:05

  not bad ba. lols. most of the stuff is imported, zf transmission, cummins engine, imported axles, steering

• NoobBOY

  26 Feb 08, 17:36

  So many people here want CHINA bus???

• stooper

  26 Feb 08, 19:35

  Originally posted by SBS7484P:

  not bad ba. lols. most of the stuff is imported, zf transmission, cummins engine, imported axles, steering

  Sekali is just write on the website only. The bus they export to you is all use fake/imitation parts...

  Cummins become Cunnins. ZF become ZE.

• wsy1234

  26 Feb 08, 23:08

  Actually Chian has made imitation truck from japan before. but given the most oem spare parts are made by china companies for japanese company in china, it is not surprise to see one. china car Q Q is an example of an imitation car.

   

  Anywhere SMRT can reduce the bus operating cost by getting china buses as the euro $$ is too high to get euro branded buses.

   

  So it is not surprise the next new bus from smrt is from china or even inda, tata, at least you get Mercedes Made in Inda.

  I think read somewhere king long or dong feng buses parts is made by Scania or Volvo. king long bus is powerful as it carry full load of people, can still go up the hilly road at penang without any problem compare to sbs u230.u230 is not that power. u can hear the auto-gear keep changing up and down when it go up slope.

• stooper

  26 Feb 08, 23:44

  Originally posted by wsy1234:

  Anywhere SMRT can reduce the bus operating cost by getting china buses as the euro $$ is too high to get euro branded buses.

   

  Even though the buses might be cheaper, but if the bus everyday breakdown, then the cost will balance out...

• NoobBOY

  27 Feb 08, 17:36

  Originally posted by wsy1234:

  Actually Chian has made imitation truck from japan before. but given the most oem spare parts are made by china companies for japanese company in china, it is not surprise to see one. china car Q Q is an example of an imitation car.

   

  Anywhere SMRT can reduce the bus operating cost by getting china buses as the euro $$ is too high to get euro branded buses.

   

  So it is not surprise the next new bus from smrt is from china or even inda, tata, at least you get Mercedes Made in Inda.

  I think read somewhere king long or dong feng buses parts is made by Scania or Volvo. king long bus is powerful as it carry full load of people, can still go up the hilly road at penang without any problem compare to sbs u230.u230 is not that power. u can hear the auto-gear keep changing up and down when it go up slope.

  Singapore buses does not need to be that good when going up slope or even hilly road, if want such a bus, must as well as Land Rover to make bus, that would be even better

• SBS7484P

  27 Feb 08, 19:34

  Originally posted by NoobBOY:

  Singapore buses does not need to be that good when going up slope or even hilly road, if want such a bus, must as well as Land Rover to make bus, that would be even better

  
  wat do u mean need not be that good? yes, it doesent need to be able to do 60kmh straight on a steep gradient but at least its got to have enough power to climb the hill decently w/o losing power frequently

• Scania N113CRB luver

  27 Feb 08, 23:28

  Originally posted by SBS7484P:

  
  wat do u mean need not be that good? yes, it doesent need to be able to do 60kmh straight on a steep gradient but at least its got to have enough power to climb the hill decently w/o losing power frequently

  In short, a strong engine that has a good power/torque bandwidth.

  B7RLE's D7E engine can do the job. B9TL's D9A300 can do it too. So lets see which next newer engine can do the same job.

• sBs_boy

  27 Feb 08, 23:47

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  In short, a strong engine that has a good power/torque bandwidth.

  B7RLE's D7E engine can do the job. B9TL's D9A300 can do it too. So lets see which next newer engine can do the same job.

  
  Give me back O.305 and i'll be happy...

• Scania

  28 Feb 08, 00:03

  Originally posted by sBs_boy:

  
  Give me back O.305 and i'll be happy...

  
  3 very good engines....

  OM407h, OM447h and OM457hLA and their turbo versions (ie hA and hLA and the M447hLAG (CNG engine))

• Scania N113CRB luver

  28 Feb 08, 13:18

  Originally posted by Scania:

  
  3 very good engines....

  OM407h, OM447h and OM457hLA and their turbo versions (ie hA and hLA and the M447hLAG (CNG engine))

  I think the OM447h has the most varients. It has non turbo, turbo only and turbo+intercooler.

  So far i have yet to hear of a turbo version of the OM407h and the OM457hLA is always turbo with intercooler.

• Powered_By_CNG

  28 Feb 08, 16:09

  So far i have yet to hear of a turbo version of the OM407h

  
  Perth has Mercedes-Benz O 305 G artics with the OM 407 hA engine.  This engine develops 206kW/280hp and 1079Nm.

  Regards,
  Dave

• NoobBOY

  29 Feb 08, 20:21

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  I think the OM447h has the most varients. It has non turbo, turbo only and turbo+intercooler.

  So far i have yet to hear of a turbo version of the OM407h and the OM457hLA is always turbo with intercooler.

  This bus has no Turbo Charger???

• Scania N113CRB luver

  29 Feb 08, 22:14

  Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:

  
  Perth has Mercedes-Benz O 305 G artics with the OM 407 hA engine.  This engine develops 206kW/280hp and 1079Nm.

  Regards,
  Dave

  Are they exclusive to Australia? Or are they distributed around the world?

• Scania N113CRB luver

  29 Feb 08, 22:15

  Originally posted by NoobBOY:

  This bus has no Turbo Charger???

  What bus are you talking about? Lols.

  OM407h, OM447h/hA/hLA and OM457hLA are engines, not bus chassis.

• Scania

  29 Feb 08, 23:12

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  Are they exclusive to Australia? Or are they distributed around the world?

  There should be some units in Europe, especially in Germany and Switzerland with the same engine.

• Powered_By_CNG

  1 Mar 08, 19:48

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  Are they exclusive to Australia? Or are they distributed around the world?

  
  The Mercedes-Benz O 305 G articulated bus was offered with two engine options.

  Firstly, there was the OM 407 h.919 naturally-aspired engine which has the following specifications:

  • Power: 177kW (240PS) @ 2200rppm
  • Torque: 834Nm @ 1500rpm

  Secondly, available as an optinal extra was the OM 407 hA.955 turbocharged engine with the following specifications:

  • Power: 206kW (280PS) @ 2200rpm
  • Torque: 1079Nm @ 1300rpm

  In addition to the 240PS engine described above, the Mercedes-Benz O 305 rigid bus was available with the OM 407 h.913 de-rated naturally-aspirated engine (popular in Australia).  It had the following specifications:

  • Power: 147kW (200PS) @ 2200rpm
  • Torque: 715Nm @ 1400rpm

  Regards,
  Dave

• ZYX2005

  1 Mar 08, 20:02

  Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:

  
  The Mercedes-Benz O 305 G articulated bus was offered with two engine options.

  Firstly, there was the OM 407 h.919 naturally-aspired engine which has the following specifications:

  • Power: 177kW (240PS) @ 2200rppm
  • Torque: 834Nm @ 1500rpm

  Secondly, available as an optinal extra was the OM 407 hA.955 turbocharged engine with the following specifications:

  • Power: 206kW (280PS) @ 2200rpm
  • Torque: 1079Nm @ 1300rpm

   

  Regards,

  Dave

  alright, the first one is also our dear double deck O305 specs ..

  utututuut

  regards

  ZYX

   

• NoobBOY

  1 Mar 08, 20:23

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  What bus are you talking about? Lols.

  OM407h, OM447h/hA/hLA and OM457hLA are engines, not bus chassis.

  What i mean was the engine is it not turbo charged or do you don't understand what i mean by turbo charger?

• Scania N113CRB luver

  1 Mar 08, 20:39

  Originally posted by NoobBOY:

  What i mean was the engine is it not turbo charged or do you don't understand what i mean by turbo charger?

  I know. But what bus do you mean? OM407h, OM447h/hA/hLA and OM457hLA belongs to 3 different bus you know?

• SBS7484P

  1 Mar 08, 21:55

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  In short, a strong engine that has a good power/torque bandwidth.

  B7RLE's D7E engine can do the job. B9TL's D9A300 can do it too. So lets see which next newer engine can do the same job.

  
  *VSO roars loudly chugging up a hill in background....*

• carbikebus

  2 Mar 08, 09:52

  Originally posted by SBS7484P:

  
  *VSO roars loudly chugging up a hill in background....*

  If SBST restrict the top speed and acceleration from 60 to 70 kmh i dun think many peeps will call VSOs slow buses

• Scania N113CRB luver

  2 Mar 08, 15:37

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  If SBST restrict the top speed and acceleration from 60 to 70 kmh i dun think many peeps will call VSOs slow buses

  VSO with Voith is rather sluggish in acceleration. However if its fitted with ZF 4HP590, i think the acceleration shld be good. I saw one video on Youtube and its performance is just like our VO3x.

• ZYX2005

  3 Mar 08, 17:33

  sit 9888Y lor. that guy acclerates to 5th gear in not time. er wait...uhhh got torque convertor so i thought 5 gear counted. haaahahahah

   

  ok fine. acc to 4th in like super fast

  ZYX