[Locked] SBS Transit orders 900 buses from Scania (Part 1)
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yah the vibrations are v disturbing. the bus is resonating at a natural freq (no joke this is real). i seen it in person, the bars become a nice purple blur as the bus move. quite cool to see actually.Originally posted by alleggerita:Doubt so leh..it's not only the poles vibrating..EVERYTHING in the bus is vibrating..when I'm sitting at the back near the engine and when the bus accelerates, the seat back of the seat I'm sitting on just keeps vibrating..giving me a 'nice massage'..
The poles only serves to amplify the vibrations both visually and vocally..
u can see the resonance freq on the front where the road tax disc are. it is stated. (most ironic thing i noticed so far)
i think it boils down to not fixing some vibration retarding material as tamago suggested, or it could be a usual gemilang inferior product problem.
also the denso air-con cover is loosely fitted and so rattle on its holding base. contribute to the general noise.
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I cant explain clearly for this case , but i do remember that if a something vibrates at the same rate as the structure's natural frequency , the thing will collapse.Originally posted by ZYX2005:yah the vibrations are v disturbing. the bus is resonating at a natural freq (no joke this is real). i seen it in person, the bars become a nice purple blur as the bus move. quite cool to see actually.
u can see the resonance freq on the front where the road tax disc are. it is stated. (most ironic thing i noticed so far)
i think it boils down to not fixing some vibration retarding material as tamago suggested, or it could be a usual gemilang inferior product problem.
also the denso air-con cover is loosely fitted and so rattle on its holding base. contribute to the general noise.
I also rmbr something "Something , no matter how strong, will vibrate. Nothing is completely solid" Taken from NGC or Discovery Chnl. -
Can show us, even if it's blur?Originally posted by ZYX2005:i shot a M trans bodywork coach in Hk and also a SC elite or soemthing singapore bodied coach in HK. but all blur. grr
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That one can't be helped, I only feel the pole needs to be stabilised, much like the Lance's swinging grab handles last time, poor design.Originally posted by alleggerita:Doubt so leh..it's not only the poles vibrating..EVERYTHING in the bus is vibrating..when I'm sitting at the back near the engine and when the bus accelerates, the seat back of the seat I'm sitting on just keeps vibrating..giving me a 'nice massage'..
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U remembering one episode from the show seconds from disaster?Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:I cant explain clearly for this case , but i do remember that if a something vibrates at the same rate as the structure's natural frequency , the thing will collapse. -
can learn from the interior design of Sentosa Volvo B7RLE buses: PA5278M, PA5279K, PA5286POriginally posted by ^tamago^:That one can't be helped, I only feel the pole needs to be stabilised, much like the Lance's swinging grab handles last time, poor design. -
it is against here policy to show blur pix lehOriginally posted by tintinspartan:Can show us, even if it's blur?
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Yeah, maybe the bodywork too cheapo, too light.Originally posted by ZYX2005:i think it boils down to not fixing some vibration retarding material as tamago suggested, or it could be a usual gemilang inferior product problem.
Today took the Scania for the first time. Externally looks alright, but when I sat at the back row, the engine sounded so familiar! Sounded almost the same as N113CRBs! Like some big old truck.
It sounds so old as compared to the DM3500, which has much more futuristic sounds. -
K230s are cheaper compared to B9Ls or Citaros...But still reasonable for SG roads.If only there are a bit more seats at the front...Originally posted by stooper:Yeah, maybe the bodywork too cheapo, too light.
Today took the Scania for the first time. Externally looks alright, but when I sat at the back row, the engine sounded so familiar! Sounded almost the same as N113CRBs! Like some big old truck.
It sounds so old as compared to the DM3500, which has much more futuristic sounds. -
Yeah, maybe you are right about Gemilang's inferior bodywork..maybe the body not secured tightly enough onto the chassis, hence not enough structural rigidity..[/img]Originally posted by ZYX2005:yah the vibrations are v disturbing. the bus is resonating at a natural freq (no joke this is real). i seen it in person, the bars become a nice purple blur as the bus move. quite cool to see actually.
u can see the resonance freq on the front where the road tax disc are. it is stated. (most ironic thing i noticed so far)
i think it boils down to not fixing some vibration retarding material as tamago suggested, or it could be a usual gemilang inferior product problem.
also the denso air-con cover is loosely fitted and so rattle on its holding base. contribute to the general noise. -
it is not lahOriginally posted by ZYX2005:it is against here policy to show blur pix leh
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the "policy" is created by perfectionists -
ARBP has received the K230UBs. Deployment unsure, someone saw SBS 8049 J on 123.
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This is not the only 1 spotted today. Currently there's a total of 3 K230UBs spotted.Originally posted by Oceane:ARBP has received the K230UBs. Deployment unsure, someone saw SBS 8049 J on 123. -
8049J and 8051B. Not sure about the 3rd bus you're talking about.Originally posted by sbs&tibs:This is not the only 1 spotted today. Currently there's a total of 3 K230UBs spotted. -
SBS8047P.Originally posted by off_service:8049J and 8051B. Not sure about the 3rd bus you're talking about.
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Yeah, I think CDGE bodywork also CMI. 9889U has rather bad rattling at the back. Took 7365C on 198 the other day. Even the bus stopping poles on the upper deck will rattle when the bus is idling!Originally posted by alleggerita:Yeah, maybe you are right about Gemilang's inferior bodywork..maybe the body not secured tightly enough onto the chassis, hence not enough structural rigidity..[/img]
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there are only two scanias on 123. one full day other madness crossover and s shift kind of stuff
8049 today full day
8051 did 123 after 4 pm then do 123B .
there is no 8047. its a hoax
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The msg you forwarded mentioned SBS8047P.Originally posted by ZYX2005:there are only two scanias on 123. one full day other madness crossover and s shift kind of stuff
8049 today full day
8051 did 123 after 4 pm then do 123B .
there is no 8047. its a hoax
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Ok, new stuffs:
SBS8047P SBS8048L 8050D 8055R spotted on s174. -
Originally posted by sbs&tibs:The msg you forwarded mentioned SBS8047P.
Ok, new stuffs:
SBS8047P SBS8048L 8050D 8055R spotted on s174. Wow. More Scanias for 174? -
Do you think 3 WABs on S174 is enough?Originally posted by azharjj: Wow. More Scanias for 174? -
More Scanias good what so that I can spot them. Nowadays, it's difficult to spot scanias on 174
Hopefully they are perm -
What nonsense are you talking about? If not perm why did SBST deploy them on these services?Originally posted by azharjj:More Scanias good what so that I can spot them. Nowadays, it's difficult to spot scanias on 174
Hopefully they are perm -
Sorry la... I thought is cameo.Originally posted by sbs&tibs:What nonsense are you talking about? If not perm why did SBST deploy them on these services? -
As of today, 7 new Scanias have been registered according to One Motoring.
SBS 8057 K
SBS 8058 H
SBS 8059 E
SBS 8060 A
SBS 8061 Y
SBS 8062 U
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yay !!! more and more scanias !!!Originally posted by Oceane:As of today, 7 new Scanias have been registered according to One Motoring.
SBS 8057 K
SBS 8058 H
SBS 8059 E
SBS 8060 A
SBS 8061 Y
SBS 8062 U
SBS 8063 S