[Locked] SBS Transit orders 900 buses from Scania (Part 1)
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And in case you don't know, on this very day 17 years later, 40 buses will be gone at 1 shot. Nice or terrible eh then the Mk2s?Originally posted by Oceane:40 buses at a shot... -
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clones~
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Reminds me of that BusHK thing lol...Originally posted by ^tamago^:clones~
Create accounts that have exact siggies as original ones.
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SBS8074 and SBS8086 are in AMDEP, together with another two K230.
now undergoing trials. might be out next week on the road. -
another two K230 (8090 and 8091) are spotted inside AMDEP.
make it a total of 6 K230 there. -
SBS 8074 KOriginally posted by lemon1974:another two K230 (8090 and 8091) are spotted inside AMDEP.
make it a total of 6 K230 there.
SBS 8084 G
SBS 8086 B
SBS 8087 Z
SBS 8090 M
SBS 8091 K
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No one spotted any K230UB @ BNdepot yet ?
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I must admit that the suspenision for K230UB is not bad.
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Barcode are pasted on the new Scania.. Btw, I saw an instruction on the dashboard "Activater riser..." wat that for?
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da bumper so low...hw many accidents would u expect a day?Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Barcode are pasted on the new Scania.. Btw, I saw an instruction on the dashboard "Activater riser..." wat that for? -
Pls kindly explain what u wrote above? I dun understand what u wrote above.Originally posted by SBS8043A:da bumper so low...hw many accidents would u expect a day? -
Can understand. He is saying the bumper is low and BCs are advised to raise the front of the bus so as to prevent accidents such as hitting on bumper when going on humps, etc.Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Pls kindly explain what u wrote above? I dun understand what u wrote above. -
From the broadly 2 approaches i know of, i see it as where one incurs the cost as ultimately the overall costs (monetary & otherwise) can turn out the same.
Those Euro-4 diesels which don't use additives are very fussy on fuel, they only accept the more expensive lower sulphur diesel, which also is very limited in supply nowadays & only some fuel stations stock them.
Majority of diesel fuel (especially in 3rd world) is the cheaper higher sulphur grade which remains widely available. So a noteworthy point about those diesel engines which use the additive approach is that they are less fussy on fuel i.e. they can drink the cheaper more easily available grade of diesel only that one needs to stock up on some additives, which only take up a small proportion in volume compared to the diesel fuel used.
Of course one spend a bit on additives (like buying some extra cans of motor oil, brake fluid, radiator coolant or even WD-40 etc.) perhaps keep some always on hand when traveling to more ulu places. Then just look for the usual diesel station for refilling the 'normal' cheaper diesel instead of being limited by the relatively fewer low sulphur diesel refueling stations around the world !Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Yep . Volvo engines requires additives to be Euro-IV . Scania , however , does not require any additional additives . Additives = more cost . Thats probably why SBST chose Scania . -
In what way 'not bad' ??
If it's in versetality in the form of manual height adjustment etc. i'll agree.
BUT unfortunately if it's in the area of suspension ride comfort, then
(so far from rides i've taken over the front, mid & rear sections of the vehicle)
i'm have to conclude they haven't made much (if any !) improvements in this area over the N113 used since 1989 ! The ride is still very 'rough', damping hardly effective & as such overall not really smooth which is not very impressive because the road speeds only ~ 50 km/h !!
Therefore while the suspension does not seem noisy, overall so far however the suspension ride comfort remains on the lousier side. Not as bad as the Volvo B10M's but nowhere near as good as the suspension comfort levels of the M-B O 405 or even the new O 500's like the 1725 (nosier suspension but more stable & just as comfortable as O 405) used in Malaysia nowadays.Originally posted by chickenlittle2:I must admit that the suspenision for K230UB is not bad. -
Hopefully can put them on sv 138, facilitate wheelchair bound passengers to visit the zoo.Originally posted by Oceane:SBS 8074 K
SBS 8084 G
SBS 8086 B
SBS 8087 Z
SBS 8090 M
SBS 8091 K
All AMDEP.
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Sorry my mistake... 8084G is BRBP 63 which means 1 other K230 (unknown rego) is inside AMDEP instead of 8084G.Originally posted by vivienlee:Hopefully can put them on sv 138, facilitate wheelchair bound passengers to visit the zoo. -
Couldn't agreed more with you Mr HseochinOriginally posted by hseochin:In what way 'not bad' ??
If it's in versetality in the form of manual height adjustment etc. i'll agree.
BUT unfortunately if it's in the area of suspension ride comfort, then
(so far from rides i've taken over the front, mid & rear sections of the vehicle)
i'm have to conclude they haven't made much (if any !) improvements in this area over the N113 used since 1989 ! The ride is still very 'rough', damping hardly effective & as such overall not really smooth which is not very impressive because the road speeds only ~ 50 km/h !!
Therefore while the suspension does not seem noisy, overall so far however the suspension ride comfort remains on the lousier side. Not as bad as the Volvo B10M's but nowhere near as good as the suspension comfort levels of the M-B O 405 or even the new O 500's like the 1725 (nosier suspension but more stable & just as comfortable as O 405) used in Malaysia nowadays. -
there are 3 more new K230 inside AMDEP beside 8074/8086/8087/8090/8091.Originally posted by Oceane:Sorry my mistake... 8084G is BRBP 63 which means 1 other K230 (unknown rego) is inside AMDEP instead of 8084G.
8084 should be inside AMDEP before it was transferred to BR to do Sv 63.
so now at least 9 K230 belong to AM/BR.
just like the B9 last time. 7485 to 7498 were all inside AMDEP until they were transferred to BRBP one day before they were deployed on Sv 88/143. -
add-on 7468 7475Originally posted by lemon1974:just like the B9 last time. 7485 to 7498 were all inside AMDEP until they were transferred to BRBP one day before they were deployed on Sv 88/143. -
Any pics of Scania K230 on sv 63?Originally posted by lemon1974:there are 3 more new K230 inside AMDEP beside 8074/8086/8087/8090/8091.
8084 should be inside AMDEP before it was transferred to BR to do Sv 63.
so now at least 9 K230 belong to AM/BR.
just like the B9 last time. 7485 to 7498 were all inside AMDEP until they were transferred to BRBP one day before they were deployed on Sv 88/143. -
this post is for people who ask me "why 63"?
i will generally refer to work processes in the European countries.
the scania k230Ub Singapore is seen as a crush loading bus model. that is it allows for much standee room in order to crush load the bus until its capacity is over 100 people. much more than normal for a typcial 12m single deck bus
Also the bus is best deployed on start-stop services. this mean the bus hardly reaches top gears then has to call at the next stop. such bus services genrally go through busy throughfares in a city. as u can tell, the Scania k230Ub singapore cannot hit a top speed of 60km/h. So it is best to put on start -stop service. typical according to european standra , start-stop services buses travel at average speeds of 22lm/h to 25km/h.
so why?
1) Scania k230Ub is a crush loading type of bus. service 63 during peak has crush load. but yet during off peak not much people take. thus the issue of little seats here cannot be an argument for not allowing the bus on 63
2) the bus is best suited for start-stop city services. one fine example is 63 whereby there is simply no express sector on h service. almost every stop has alighting n loading activities
3) many senior citizens live in macpherson and Rumah Tinggi ( source sv966 )
the travel pattern for these senior folks is to go from rumah tinggi est to chiantown.
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they still park in a row near da factory buildings rite? usually new buses park dere...Originally posted by lemon1974:there are 3 more new K230 inside AMDEP beside 8074/8086/8087/8090/8091.
8084 should be inside AMDEP before it was transferred to BR to do Sv 63.
so now at least 9 K230 belong to AM/BR.
just like the B9 last time. 7485 to 7498 were all inside AMDEP until they were transferred to BRBP one day before they were deployed on Sv 88/143.