Giving way to buses reduced waiting time
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Channel NewsAsia - Tuesday, October 16
Motorists giving way to buses reduced waiting time by up to 80%
SINGAPORE : A simple act of motorists giving way to buses has reduced a passengerÂ’s average waiting time for a bus by as much as 80 percent.
SBS Transit said its 19—month survey also revealed that waiting time dropped by at least 38 percent when buses were not obstructed while exiting bus bays.
To encourage motorists to help the 2.2 million bus passengers have a smoother ride, the company will launch its second campaign to help spread the message among drivers.
Friendly drivers spotted giving way to buses will receive a S$10 petrol voucher and a thank you letter.
Starting in November, to spread the word even further, SBS Transit will also give out air fresheners in the shape of a bus, to drivers at seven McDonald’s drive—through outlets. — CNA /ls -
so now they blame traffic
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they oreadi got bus lane to themselves, what more they wan sia.. the whole road?
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why dont they suggest that the govt stop issuing COEs.
it will reduce waiting time by a full 100%. -
doesn't quite help, car drivers will cut into bus laneOriginally posted by sLeEpWaLkErInG:they oreadi got bus lane to themselves, what more they wan sia.. the whole road? -
1 thing I suppose they should do is to enforce the yellow boxes at bus stops more harshly
There are times whereby buses like 151, 153, 154, 156, 186 having difficulty turning to Bt Timah from Whitley all because of cars occupying the yellow box -
Taking Sbst svc 13 travelling along Lavendar and Serangoon road at peak hour,i can feel how effective is the bus lane.But i heard the one at Eu Tong Sen street not so effective.
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that means dont need to wait ? sure? lol.Originally posted by dragg:why dont they suggest that the govt stop issuing COEs.
it will reduce waiting time by a full 100%. -
Originally posted by SMRT Buses:
I guess motorists would look at this article, talk about it, then go back to jamming up the roads. What's the use when you don't have stricter reinforcements, like deduction of merits?
Channel NewsAsia - Tuesday, October 16
[b]Motorists giving way to buses reduced waiting time by up to 80%
SINGAPORE : A simple act of motorists giving way to buses has reduced a passengerÂ’s average waiting time for a bus by as much as 80 percent.
SBS Transit said its 19—month survey also revealed that waiting time dropped by at least 38 percent when buses were not obstructed while exiting bus bays.
To encourage motorists to help the 2.2 million bus passengers have a smoother ride, the company will launch its second campaign to help spread the message among drivers.
Friendly drivers spotted giving way to buses will receive a S$10 petrol voucher and a thank you letter.
Starting in November, to spread the word even further, SBS Transit will also give out air fresheners in the shape of a bus, to drivers at seven McDonald’s drive—through outlets. — CNA /ls[/b] -
Stick - ERP and COE
Carrot - air fresheners and petrol vouchers
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Unless TP do something to the motorist , if not people who drive cars don't give way to buses. People who give way to buses are usually commercial nvehicles or goods vehicles most of the times. Don't know why. At bus stops even when private buses wanted to exit the bus bay after picking up passenger also must wait , most of the time , a lorry or van (mainly goods / commercial vehicles) will give way to these buses.
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not effective because most of them after pick up passengers go to other lane coz' the bus stop ahead is for different set of bus services.Originally posted by Frogleg888:Taking Sbst svc 13 travelling along Lavendar and Serangoon road at peak hour,i can feel how effective is the bus lane.But i heard the one at Eu Tong Sen street not so effective. 
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i have mixed reactions with giving way to buses.
my experiences as i drive.
- if it's a two-lane rd and i'm on the left lane and see a bus exiting the bus bay ahead. if the other lane is clear i'll filter right and allow the bus to exit as per normal. do this lots of times.
- yellow box and even tho the area ahead of the yellow box got space, i wud stop and rather let the bus take the space and yellow box to cover up.
the WORST one EVER.
- yellow box. give way to bus. stays behind bus. green light... and you realise the bus is FREAKING SLOW and road-hogging. maybe bus is ahead of schedule. regrets giving way to bus.
so SBST, which one you want? can you promise motorists that if we give way, the buses wouldnt road-hog? please cover up traffic ahead promptly. -
Bus =/= Car.Originally posted by sinicker:i have mixed reactions with giving way to buses.
my experiences as i drive.
- if it's a two-lane rd and i'm on the left lane and see a bus exiting the bus bay ahead. if the other lane is clear i'll filter right and allow the bus to exit as per normal. do this lots of times.
- yellow box and even tho the area ahead of the yellow box got space, i wud stop and rather let the bus take the space and yellow box to cover up.
the WORST one EVER.
- yellow box. give way to bus. stays behind bus. green light... and you realise the bus is FREAKING SLOW and road-hogging. maybe bus is ahead of schedule. regrets giving way to bus.
so SBST, which one you want? can you promise motorists that if we give way, the buses wouldnt road-hog? please cover up traffic ahead promptly.
Bus weighs over 10 or 11 tonnes, a car is maximum 1 ton. Did you learn about inertia before? Objects with heavier masses takes a longer time to stop due to inertia. Do you want this to happen to the buses in Singapore, whereby they speed so as to satisfy the motorists's demands of high speed, then get involved into an accident? -
The problem is not that the bus is taking a long time to stop, its that the bus driver(some) drive damn slowly.Originally posted by Oceane:Bus =/= Car.
Bus weighs over 10 or 11 tonnes, a car is maximum 1 ton. Did you learn about inertia before? Objects with heavier masses takes a longer time to stop due to inertia. Do you want this to happen to the buses in Singapore, whereby they speed so as to satisfy the motorists's demands of high speed, then get involved into an accident?
I see before cars being stucked behind some buses because its so slow and that the car just want to turn left into a carpark. Then something even more dangerous happens where by some motorists think they can drift and take over the bus. -
Its not a matter of the buses being naturally slower to pick up or have slower max speed: its that alot of times the bus drivers drag their feet and drive deliberately very slowly probably because theya re ahead of scehdule. Seen this lots of times on the bus and in a carOriginally posted by Oceane:Bus =/= Car.
Bus weighs over 10 or 11 tonnes, a car is maximum 1 ton. Did you learn about inertia before? Objects with heavier masses takes a longer time to stop due to inertia. Do you want this to happen to the buses in Singapore, whereby they speed so as to satisfy the motorists's demands of high speed, then get involved into an accident? -
Ban cars. Then create our world class transport and cheaper bus ridesOriginally posted by oOprinceOo:that means dont need to wait ? sure? lol.. Force everyone to take public transport around Singapore 
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All I can say that is, the bus has every right to travel slow, because it's a heavy vehicle. Furthermore, the car has every right to switch lanes.Originally posted by Y_Shun:The problem is not that the bus is taking a long time to stop, its that the bus driver(some) drive damn slowly.
I see before cars being stucked behind some buses because its so slow and that the car just want to turn left into a carpark. Then something even more dangerous happens where by some motorists think they can drift and take over the bus.
If the car wanted to turn into a carpark, tailing the bus behind is the only choice.
If motorists want to drift and overtake, that's their own issue. Accident = their fault. -
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In my opinion, the vehicle population is surging at an exponential speed due to whatever reasons. Given the major constraint that Singapore has limited land space with almost every inch is preciously utilised up to its fullesy by the authorities, there is a limit which the roads can be widened.
Can we widen the roads to accommodate the surging vehicle demand? Will it be fast enough?
With surging vehicle population, it can be frustuating at times for vehicles including buses to stop and go, for every few seconds. At that kind of frustuating situation, will anybody think of giving way to buses?
At times, bus drivers drive slowly as they are ahead of schedule. They are trying to be on schedule. At times, they have switch to the centre lane due to unforeseen circumstances such as obstacles on the road or traffic just simply moves too slowly. The fact that more buses have switched to centre lane indicates that general traffic on the roads is slower now as compared to the past.
So how? I can only say that avoid congested areas and encourage more people to utilise public transport. -
the govt's solution is ERP.
The road will be smooth, but the other roads will be congested. -
dude. i'm not some car driver who has never taken public transport before. i know just how freaking slow some buses are when they're "supposedly ahead of schedule". other forum users can vouch this.Originally posted by Oceane:Bus =/= Car.
Bus weighs over 10 or 11 tonnes, a car is maximum 1 ton. Did you learn about inertia before? Objects with heavier masses takes a longer time to stop due to inertia. Do you want this to happen to the buses in Singapore, whereby they speed so as to satisfy the motorists's demands of high speed, then get involved into an accident?
yes i do learn abt inertia. pursuing mech eng in ntu. dont doubt my intelligence.
4 years in sec sch i commute on S15 everyday, my journeys to sch can fluctuate from 15mins to 40mins. so i know.
our buses, a lot of them can accelerate fast. dont ever doubt them. Scania OACs, MK4s all are fast.
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a heavy vehicle, yes. the bus doesnt have a right to travel slow.Originally posted by Oceane:All I can say that is, the bus has every right to travel slow, because it's a heavy vehicle. Furthermore, the car has every right to switch lanes.
If the car wanted to turn into a carpark, tailing the bus behind is the only choice.
If motorists want to drift and overtake, that's their own issue. Accident = their fault.
the bus has no right to travel in speeds in excess of 60km/h.
the bus must cover up traffic ahead of him so that traffic behind will be smooth.
the car has every right to switch lanes.
the car cannot switch lanes because the car CANNOT pick up speed to switch to a faster lane due to the slow, road-hogging bus infront of him.
do you drive?
do you take public transport?
you gotta do both to fully understand. -
I give way to buses a lot of times.
Sometimes is forced to give way, sometimes I just good mood