Weird, No destos on bus but with passengers
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I know there is a thead about it bef but it was expire so continued from here I think.
Anyway, today so weird, SBS849U on Service 89 with passengers inside but does not have the Service 89 front and side desto. Weird right?
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the bus is only alighting passengers due to
>> Some Fault (aircon ect) but the bus is still able to move. so the bus driver just alights but not accept any more passangers
>> Bus Driver Forget To Put.
>>Too Full. Some Bus Drivers Do That
>>Fetch Fellow Drivers.
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I was on sv 242 about 2 weeks ago when the o405's Ac Died after it stopped at the red lights. the driver tried to restart, but to no avil. so he took off the desto and went stop to stop to alight the remainin passangers -
No. I saw it at Punggol Rd (Toward Hougang) at around 3 plus just now. The bus like no promblem to me...Originally posted by kenn3th:the bus is only alighting passengers due to
>> Some Fault (aircon ect)
>> Bus Driver Forget To Put.
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I was on sv 242 about 2 weeks ago when the o405's Ac Died after it stopped at the red lights. the driver tried to restart, but to no avil. so he took off the desto and alight the remainin passangers -
i think the driver is behind schedule so he removed the destoes. only can alight and no boarding
got one time i and took 136 and the bus was way behind way time cos the bus stuck in a traffic jam. and then he received instructions to remove the destoes and not to pick up any more passengers -
refer to my updated oneOriginally posted by bus555:No. I saw it at Punggol Rd (Toward Hougang) at around 3 plus just now. The bus like no promblem to me... -
Okay.Originally posted by kenn3th:refer to my updated one -
u r rite, CTRL will ask BC to remove desto if possible, if bus is 2 packed n BC cant remove, he will juz drive on tilll he reach Int/TerminalOriginally posted by xunmengzitu:i think the driver is behind schedule so he removed the destoes. only can alight and no boarding
got one time i and took 136 and the bus was way behind way time cos the bus stuck in a traffic jam. and then he received instructions to remove the destoes and not to pick up any more passengers -
Do u rmb what was the rego?Originally posted by kenn3th:the bus is only alighting passengers due to
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I was on sv 242 about 2 weeks ago when the o405's Ac Died after it stopped at the red lights. the driver tried to restart, but to no avil. so he took off the desto and went stop to stop to alight the remainin passangers -
I see before driver behind schedule then juz remove desto. but this is bad in terms of bus operations because ppl further down the route have one less bus to wait for n squeeze onto.
even tho the bus behind is 2 mins after the late bus, a 2 min longer wait is frustrating.
according to a bus and coach management textbook (Fawkes) in NUS, people feel frustrated to see buses with ppl on board but yet just go by. So it is not a wise way to operate a bus company to frustrate ur potential customers like that.
BUT!,, the textbook explains that due to driver work hour shifts (driver work hour shifts are regulated by terms of agreement with trade unions) , this practice may have to be adopted so as to ensure the driver dun exceed the stipulated work hours. . so therefore no choice. the book's author says that the driver can still make up for loss time further down the route. well can try.
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Not necessary.Originally posted by ZYX2005:I see before driver behind schedule then juz remove desto. but this is bad in terms of bus operations because ppl further down the route have on eless bus to wait for n squeeze onto.
even tho the bus behind is 2 mins after the late bus, a 2 min longer wait is frustrating.
according to a bus and coach management textbook (Fawkes) in NUS, people feel frustrated to see buses with ppl on board but yet just go by. it is not a wise way to operate a bus company to frustrate ur potential customers like that.
ZYX
Take 147 for example.
Recently, due to Deepavali coming soon, Little India stretch has been experiencing jams almost every other days. been taking 147 for a few times in the past week.
After Little India stretch, OCC will instruct BC to go "Off Service" when the bus was late and fully packed. At thie point of time, there were other buses who was being deployed to do downroutes.
1 147 was seen Starting trip at Potong Pasir Stn (Twrds HG)
1 147 was seen starting trip at Boon Keng Stn (Twrds HG)
1 147 was seen starting trip at Opp. NBR Terminal (Twrds CLE)
Going Off Service halfway can be a good thing if the OCC plan it well. It cold be worst if there wasnt this kind of system. -
true u cna do downroute. but downroute means more zero revenue runs. ie dead runs. downrouting is not such a great idea if u do too many dead runs with ur buses. dead runs means waste fuel and u dun recover ur losses with passengers paying for service.
furthermore when u down route u may miss out an earlier portion of the route such that the passengers there get to be frustrated when the 'off serviced" bus zoom by with pax on board.
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This reminds the time i took Express 518 , those people who take the svc will agree with me the frequency is C.M.I
Took the bus on a saturday night waited 25mins @ Far East Plaza.. so by the time the bus reach Plaza Singapura. it almost reach the full passenger capacity..
The bus captain then communicated to someone over the walkie talkie which i believe should be the headquarter telling the person over walkie the bus is full already and that the Svc 518 needed an extra bus reinforcement. And apparently with the person over the walkie takie approval. He remove the signage for SVC 518 for the front and side and carrying on driving
While on the ECP i saw another SVC 518 behind the back which i believe is the reinforcement that was mention over the walkie talkie.. somehow rather i believe the reinforcement came too late coz the other bus was near empty except a few passengers... so you can imagine us in the crowded bus Svc 518 looking @ the near empty Svc 518... -
if dead runs to pick up more pax from downroute resulting in greater revenue, why not? This is in converse to waiting for a full route bus that is packed resulting in frustrated commuters which may divert to taking SMRT buses or taxi instead. (other sbst services aside)Originally posted by ZYX2005:true u cna do downroute. but downroute means more zero revenue runs. ie dead runs. downrouting is not such a great idea if u do too many dead runs with ur buses. dead runs means waste fuel and u dun recover ur losses with passengers paying for service.
furthermore when u down route u may miss out an earlier portion of the route such that the passengers there get to be frustrated when the 'off serviced" bus zoom by with pax on board.
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Some drivers even more power, they just zoom past the bus stop without stopping even the bus is not full as they are late in terms of schedule.Originally posted by ZYX2005:I see before driver behind schedule then juz remove desto. but this is bad in terms of bus operations because ppl further down the route have one less bus to wait for n squeeze onto.
even tho the bus behind is 2 mins after the late bus, a 2 min longer wait is frustrating.
according to a bus and coach management textbook (Fawkes) in NUS, people feel frustrated to see buses with ppl on board but yet just go by. So it is not a wise way to operate a bus company to frustrate ur potential customers like that.
BUT!,, the textbook explains that due to driver work hour shifts (driver work hour shifts are regulated by terms of agreement with trade unions) , this practice may have to be adopted so as to ensure the driver dun exceed the stipulated work hours. . so therefore no choice. the book's author says that the driver can still make up for loss time further down the route. well can try.
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190 had never clear its EDS even its crowded until nobody can move in anymore... the driver always juz drive pass the bus stop
nv see SMRT bus do that before -
i fully agree.Originally posted by tanjun:Some drivers even more power, they just zoom past the bus stop without stopping even the bus is not full as they are late in terms of schedule.
however this practice stems back from the early days of sbs till late 80s still got. sbst even had to campaign amongst its drivers to "stop at all bus stops" and "dun skip stops". .
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my friend once experienced a 961 BC in the morning peak and the bus is packed lyk sardine liao, cannot move. BC stop at every bus stop, telling the passengers who wan to board that another bus will be coming very soon and ask them to wait for the next busOriginally posted by patdog112:190 had never clear its EDS even its crowded until nobody can move in anymore... the driver always juz drive pass the bus stop
nv see SMRT bus do that before -
but some BCs just think their bus damn big like tht, already squeeze until doors, still want to continue squeezing.Originally posted by ZYX2005:i fully agree.
however this practice stems back from the early days of sbs till late 80s still got. sbst even had to campaign amongst its drivers to "stop at all bus stops" and "dun skip stops". .
YX
why? scare ppl complains.
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Got one BC like that . Spent an entire 8 mins just to squeeze plp on board.Originally posted by Y_Shun:but some BCs just think their bus damn big like tht, already squeeze until doors, still want to continue squeezing.
why? scare ppl complains. 
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I ever saw one B9TL on 2 with passwngers but there is no sv 2 desto placed on all 3 sides, it happen at the middle of this year or so.
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there are red stickers on the steps stating "NO STANDING ON STEPS". BC by right should not have allowed anymore pax to board the overcrowded bus.Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Got one BC like that . Spent an entire 8 mins just to squeeze plp on board.
but i think he's worried even when the next bus arrives may still unable to cope with the load, and also worried that pax waste their time waiting for the next bus and become frustrated and late for work or school. but spending 8 mins at one bus-stop to do just that is ridiculuous.
slightly off topic; the original licence capacity for eg the MBO405 buses was 47 sitting and 28 standing. but was later revised to 47 sitting and 36 standing without any obvious interior layout changes. i think the intention was to prevent people from challenging the stated capacity and actual carrying load. -
Normally I see BCs/SLs asking pax to scan infront and board from exit. Until everywhere is filled.Originally posted by nenepokey:my friend once experienced a 961 BC in the morning peak and the bus is packed lyk sardine liao, cannot move. BC stop at every bus stop, telling the passengers who wan to board that another bus will be coming very soon and ask them to wait for the next bus -
Ever saw 3 Sv 74 ADD coming close together w/o desto (W/ passengers onboard) heading to Buona Vista in AM peak bef
Next available bus was a VO2x -
yestreday, i saw this SBS927C on 100 with no desto but with passengers along Sims Ave.
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Well, 74 passes by my house.... As I'm going to sch...notice that around 8.00 am....Originally posted by sbst275:Ever saw 3 Sv 74 ADD coming close together w/o desto (W/ passengers onboard) heading to Buona Vista in AM peak bef
Next available bus was a VO2x
The sequence is like this.....
either all VO3x or VO2x or a mixture....
then all bunched up at Marymount Road....
Even saw 1 Fast Forward 74e bunching up with the rest....