Bus Routes ( then and now)
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its 16E before 36Originally posted by swee_heng:So service 390 is 36? -
Originally posted by swee_heng:So service 390 is 36?
A cross between 16E and 36. It does not serve Marine Parade Rd unlike 36, and does not go to Bukit Merah unlike 16E.Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:its 16E before 36
In fact, just Service 36 minus the Suntec and Marine Parade route. It used to use Rochor and Selegie Roads until Marina Centre was open. -
svc 7 aso.
Bedok - JE, now Bedok - Clementi
229 aso.
Bedok - Loop at Chai Chee st, now Bedok - Bedok south -
the current 229 was RENUMBERED from 219Originally posted by MingFreeman:svc 7 aso.
Bedok - JE, now Bedok - Clementi
229 aso.
Bedok - Loop at Chai Chee st, now Bedok - Bedok south
the old 229 is part of current 222 -
I still have to say that you are wrong. Please refer to page 199 of Transitlink Guide 1992, you can see that service 197 was already plying Bedok - Boon Lay. An amendment made on 28 June the same year shortened it from Bedok - Boon Lay to Bedok - Jurong East. You can also see in this version of Transitlink Guide, service 41 did not appear in the guide as it was already integrated with service 197.Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:Nope, I am very sure of this. When 197 shifted from Jurong to Boon Lay,Boon Lay to Jurong East, it was still based at Geylang Lorong 1. I am very sure of this because I used to stay at Marine Parade. Often hang out at Marine Parade terminal and Bedok. When Service 41 and 197 merged, 197 (Geylang Lorong 1 was then extended to Bedok)
ZXY can backed me up on this. -
Old service 180 was in fact Marsiling - WTC. Withdrawn in early 1990s. Number reused in March 1996 with the cutback of service 951 from Wodlands to Bt Panjang.Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:Hmm....
180 was Adm Rd Ter to WTC service, later withdrawn, and re intro in 1995 as Bt Panjang - Boon Lay service.
Service 3 (one of SBS's earliest FAC service) in the 1980s, from Bedok to Jurong East. Withdrawn in 1990 I think. Number reused in 2001 when feeder 294 and intra-town 357 merged to become a new service. Route extended to Punggol in 2004.Originally posted by MingFreeman:3 (bedok to jurong, now tamp to punggol) -
More info can refer here
http://sgwiki.com/wiki/History_of_Bus_Services_by_SBS_Transit_%26_SMRT_Buses -
Originally posted by swee_heng:So service 390 is 36?Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:its 16E before 36
Service 390 was once a so-called express bus service from Changi Airport to Holland Road via Orchard in the 1980s, with full fleet Albion Vikings. Eventually became full AC fleet with OAC Scanias after the withdrawal of Albion Vikings. However this service was withdrawn in 1993, and service 16 was extended to Changi Airport from Marine Parade to cover for service 390.Originally posted by ^tamago^:A cross between 16E and 36. It does not serve Marine Parade Rd unlike 36, and does not go to Bukit Merah unlike 16E.
In fact, just Service 36 minus the Suntec and Marine Parade route. It used to use Rochor and Selegie Roads until Marina Centre was open.
In 1995 a peak hour express service 16E was introduced between Changi Airport to Orchard. Somewhere in 1998 the service was renumbered to service 36. Further enhancements was made on service 36 to ply from Orchard to Changi Airport via ECP and Marine Parade areas, it became a full day service. Service 16 was then cutback to Marine Parade.
Seems like passengers must have been complaining about the very long journey on service 16 from Orchard to Changi Airport after the withdrawal of service 390. SBS had no choice but to come out with this decision
Difference between services 36 and service 390 is that service 36 goes by ECP from Marina Square / Suntec City, turns in to Marine Parade and then back to ECP again to Changi Airport. Whereas service 390 goes straight to Changi Airport from Marina Square in the past. -
Service 82 also... from Punggol - Shenton Way now cutback to Serangoon - Punggol End. Worse till bus deployments from VO3x/Tridants now downgraded to NAC MK2sOriginally posted by tanjun:At my hse there, major route change is 103 after NEL rationalisation. They cut 103 and withdraw 501 and 502.
However, new services such as 43 and 109 are intorduced.
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What was the route of the old service 3?Originally posted by TIB1018B:Service 3 (one of SBS's earliest FAC service) in the 1980s, from Bedok to Jurong East. Withdrawn in 1990 I think. Number reused in 2001 when feeder 294 and intra-town 357 merged to become a new service. Route extended to Punggol in 2004. -
i am afraid tranqilice is rite. 197 had a bedok - boon lay ver. but very short lived. later cut to JREOriginally posted by tranquilice:I still have to say that you are wrong. Please refer to page 199 of Transitlink Guide 1992, you can see that service 197 was already plying Bedok - Boon Lay. An amendment made on 28 June the same year shortened it from Bedok - Boon Lay to Bedok - Jurong East. You can also see in this version of Transitlink Guide, service 41 did not appear in the guide as it was already integrated with service 197. -
sorry arh have to recall from memory. may be wrong. basically it goes like thisOriginally posted by MingFreeman:What was the route of the old service 3?
MRT line from bedok to Bugis. then
new bridge rd - end at bus ter
later in 1986, 3 was extended to jurong east gg via kampong bahru rd, jln bt merah, queensway, commonwelath ave then MRT line again. in 1987 or late 86 3 became a FAC service
to cut the long story short, it copied 147 from China town. then worse is they withdraw air-con 3. then find demand still there so shoot this AIR-CON 148 (Geylang lor 1 - Clementi) to duplicate the above said 147 duplication.
then the demand for 147 west side finally dropped. 9due to population move north east and outwards from west area) . thus AIR-COn148 met its demise.
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on my fav 390. the bus exited frm ECp using rochor rd then bencollen st in its very first implementation. yes it ended at then CMPB or to us now known as Dempsey food zoney. there was a bus ter there that had buses express like service 7, CBD1 and this express like 30 terminated there.
on service 7 in 1980, it expressed after tg katong area then along stamford rd then start calling at stops again. along with service 8 its partner service to shenton way. service 6 was also from this group to chiantown. all 6 , 7 and 8 served bedok to the above city areas using the same express sector.
sadly service 7 is the sole survivor today. the rest were...voted out.
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BEDOK EXPRESS SERVICES
express bet tg katong area till stamford rd / nicholl HW ussed as express
6 BEDOk - CHINATOWN NBR ter (old NBR ter)
7 BEDOK - DEMPSEY TER via orchard rd
8 BEDOk - SHENTON WAy - high profile express svc to shenton way using atleantans! operated only during peak hours. much like today premium service.
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SBS sv 8 got itself reborn again as a fully aircon service as Toa Payoh - Tampines in 1990. Managed to survived till today using Leyland Olympians!Originally posted by ZYX2005:on service 7 in 1980, it expressed after tg katong area then along stamford rd then start calling at stops again. along with service 8 its partner service to shenton way. service 6 was also from this group to chiantown. all 6 , 7 and 8 served bedok to the above city areas using the same express sector.
sadly service 7 is the sole survivor today. the rest were...voted out.
REVIEW
BEDOK EXPRESS SERVICES
express bet tg katong area till stamford rd / nicholl HW ussed as express
6 BEDOk - CHINATOWN NBR ter (old NBR ter)
7 BEDOK - DEMPSEY TER via orchard rd
8 BEDOk - SHENTON WAy - high profile express svc to shenton way using atleantans! operated only during peak hours. much like today premium service.
ZYX -
To be exact sv 16E (now 36) terminate at Bt Merah int together with 16. After enhancements were made to 16 and 36, sv 36 was cutback to loop at Tomlinson Rd instead (similar case like sv 390 in the past).Originally posted by TIB1018B:Service 390 was once a so-called express bus service from Changi Airport to Holland Road via Orchard in the 1980s, with full fleet Albion Vikings. Eventually became full AC fleet with OAC Scanias after the withdrawal of Albion Vikings. However this service was withdrawn in 1993, and service 16 was extended to Changi Airport from Marine Parade to cover for service 390.
In 1995 a peak hour express service 16E was introduced between Changi Airport to Orchard. Somewhere in 1998 the service was renumbered to service 36. Further enhancements was made on service 36 to ply from Orchard to Changi Airport via ECP and Marine Parade areas, it became a full day service. Service 16 was then cutback to Marine Parade.
Seems like passengers must have been complaining about the very long journey on service 16 from Orchard to Changi Airport after the withdrawal of service 390. SBS had no choice but to come out with this decision
Difference between services 36 and service 390 is that service 36 goes by ECP from Marina Square / Suntec City, turns in to Marine Parade and then back to ECP again to Changi Airport. Whereas service 390 goes straight to Changi Airport from Marina Square in the past.
If only sv 390 still existing 2day using Volvo MK4s
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Sv 34 from Changi Airport to Bedok, gone in 2002. Reborn again in 2005 from Changi Airport but goes to Punggol instead
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I have a very interesting route to show you guys here...
In the early1970s...
SERVICE 166 was used to be Nee Soon Village - Sembawang Rd End service, later withdrawn.
(Sembawang Rd, Chong Pang Rd, Bah Tan Rd, Teo Lee Rd, Chong Pang and Sembawang Rd and return vice versa)
In 1979...
SERVICE 166 was a Ang Mo Kio - New Bridge Road service
In 1986...
SERVICE 166 was Ang Mo Kio - Labrador Ter service, later extended to Clementi to form current routing.
Currently...
SERVICE 166 is a Ang Mo Kio - Clementi Int service. -
Service 190 in 1978 was Jalan Bukit Merah to Prince Edwards Road, later w/drawn in 1979 or 1980 ??.
190 was born as Bt Panjang to New bridge Road and later to extend to CCK to form current routing..
But for SERVICE 199...
In the earyl 1970s... it was a loop service from Prince Edward Road - Dunearn Road (Near Dunearn Road Hostel)
And later in the 1980s... It was Jurong Bus Int to NTU Campus (Loop)
And when the Jurong Bus Int was relocated to Boon Lay Bus Int in 1990, 199 calls at the Boon Lay Int and loops at the NTU Campus. -
Some routes of which I know of number that was being reused...
Service 3 (past): Bedok to Jurong East
Service 3 (now): Tampines to Punggol
Service 5 (past): Bt Panjang to Geylang
Service 5 (now): Bt Merah to Pasir Ris
Service 8 (past): Bedok to Shenton Way
Service 8 (current): Tampines to Toa Payoh
Service 11 (past): Sompah to New Bridge Road
Service 11 (now): Kallang MRT to National Stadium
Service 13 (past): Eunos to Ghim Moh
Service 13 (now): Yio Chu Kang to Upp East Coast
Service 28 (past): Tampines to New Bridge Road
Service 28 (now): Tampines to Toa Payoh
Service 34 (1994-2002): Bedok to Changi Airport
Service 34 (2005-now): Punggol to Changi Airport
Service 55 (past): South Canal to Mei Chin Road
Service 55 (now): Bishan to Marine Parade
Service 60 (past): MacPherson to Shenton Way
Service 60 (now): Eunos to Bedok
Service 72 (past): Serangoon to Tanjong Rhu
Service 72 (now): Yio Chu Kang to Tampines
Service 80 (1997-1998 ): Tampines to Hougang Central
Service 80 (1999-now): Sengkang to Harbourfront
Service 83 (past): Punggol End to New Bridge Road
Service 83 (now): Punggol to Sengkang
Service 84 (past): Upp Serangoon to Harbourfront
Service 84 (2003-2005): Punggol Estate loop service
Both routes also withdrawn
Service 85 (past): Hougang to Sims Ave
Service 85 (1999-2003): Sengkang to Harbourfront
Service 85 (2005-now): Punggol to Yishun
Service 90 (past): Buona Vista to PLA
Service 90 (now): Toa Payoh to PLA
Service 91 (past): Geylang to PLA
Service 91 (now): Buona Vista to Ayer Rajah Cres
Service 92 (past): Clementi to PLA
Service 92 (now): Mt Sinai to Science Park
Service 95 (past): Clementi to PLA
Service 95 (now): Kent Ridge to Holland Village via NUH/NUS
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Also some reused numbers by SBST that was used by Tibs/SMRT in tha past...
5 (former Tibs) - Bt Panjang to Geylang Lor 1
5 (now SBST) - Bt Merah to Pasir Ris
59 (former Tibs) - Ang Mo Kio to Jalan Kayu
59 (now SBST) - Bishan to Changi Village
160 (former Tibs) - Admiralty Rd West to Crawford Street
160 (now SBST) - Jurong East to JB Kotaraya
161 (former Tibs) - Sembawang Rd Eng to Shenton Way
161 (now SBST) - Woodlands to Hougang
175 (former Tibs) - Lim Chu Kang to Up Bt Timah
175 (now SBST) - Clementi to Geylang Lor 1
179 (former Tibs) - Choa Chu Kang to Fajar Road
179 (now SBST) - Boon Lay to NTU
181 (former Tibs) - Woodlands to Crawford Street
181 (now SBST) - Boon Lay to Jurong West
182 (former Tibs) - Marsiling to Shenton Way
182 (current SBST) - Boon Lay to Tuas
185 (former Tibs) - Choa Chu Kang to Jln Anak Bt
185 (now SBST) - SLDEP to Buona Vista
372 (former Tibs) - Woodlands to Marsiling Road (WL feeder service)
372 (now SBST) - Sengkang to Anchorvale Road (SK feeder service) -
actually rite... before the Eunos to Ghim Moh route, it was previouely.Originally posted by TIB1018B:Service 13 (past): Eunos to Ghim Moh
Service 13 (now): Yio Chu Kang to Upp East Coast
Service 13 :
Chai Chee to Ghim Moh > Bedok to Ghim Moh > Eunos to Ghim Moh -
In the past sv 13 (Eunos - Ghim Noh) was mainly Soon Chow Albion VIKING buses. Sv 13 amended to Eunos - YCK in 1989 n became aircon 13.Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:actually rite... before the Eunos to Ghim Moh route, it was previouely.
Service 13 :
Chai Chee to Ghim Moh > Bedok to Ghim Moh > Eunos to Ghim Moh
Qn: Which aircon buses did sv 13 n 76 use b4 1991 when the Merz WA came in??? -
Don't tell me it's the Scania's!
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Service 147 used to ply Victoria St, Kallang Rd and Lavender St (Lavender St, Crawford St and North Bridge Rd in the return direction). When service 147 was integrated with service 83 (Punggol - New Bridge Rd), service 147 was amended to ply Stamford Rd, Waterloo St, Middle Rd, Selegie Rd and Serangoon Rd (Jln Besar, Bencoolen St and Bras Basah Rd in the return direction).Originally posted by ZYX2005:sorry arh have to recall from memory. may be wrong. basically it goes like this
MRT line from bedok to Bugis. then
new bridge rd - end at bus ter
later in 1986, 3 was extended to jurong east gg via kampong bahru rd, jln bt merah, queensway, commonwelath ave then MRT line again. in 1987 or late 86 3 became a FAC service
to cut the long story short, it copied 147 from China town. then worse is they withdraw air-con 3. then find demand still there so shoot this AIR-CON 148 (Geylang lor 1 - Clementi) to duplicate the above said 147 duplication.
then the demand for 147 west side finally dropped. 9due to population move north east and outwards from west area) . thus AIR-COn148 met its demise.
Perhaps to maintain the link between Victoria St / North Bridge Rd and the rest of service 147 route up to Clementi, and also to act as a supplementary service to service 147, FAC service 148 was introduced in June 1992 duplicating service 147 route between Clementi and Hill St / North Bridge Rd. Due to demand was not satisfactory, service 148 was withdrawn after 5 months, in Nov 1992. On the same day service 148 was withdrawn, service 196 was extended from Buona Vista to Clementi so that Clementi and Dover residents had another bus service to connect to Queensway and Jln Bukit Merah. -
there was service 266 which plied from ang mo kio int - ang mo kio ave 5 and merged with old service 265 to form current service 265. 269 was also amended to ply some of 266's routes.
138 used to take ang mo kio ave 8 and ang mo kio ave 5(the bus stops 45 takes right now), but amended to ply ang mo kio ave 3,6 before turning left to ave 5.
159 plied from ang mo kio - toa payoh to ang mo kio - toa payoh(loop) and to toa payoh - sengkang. the old 159 used to ply ang mo kio ave 3,6 and ave 1 and its current route to toa payoh. -
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Service 101 (past): Serangoon to New Bridge Road
Service 101 (now): Serangoon to Buangkok Drive
Service 138 (past): Ang Mo Kio to Shenton Way
Service 138 (now): Ang Mo Kio to Zoo
Service 151 (past): Toa Payoh to New Bridge Road
Service 151 (now): Kent Ridge to Hougang
Service 168 (past): Ang Mo Kio to Orchard Road
Service 168 (now): Woodlands to Bedok
Service 173 (past): Princess Elizebeth to New Bridge Road
Service 173 (now): Bt Batok to Clementi
Service 175 (past): Shenton Way to Tuas
Service 175 (past): Bt Batok to Jurong West
Service 175 (1993-2005): Lim Chu Kang to Upp Bt Timah
Service 175 (now): Clementi to Geylang Lor 1
Service 177 (past): Bt Timah to CCK Road End
Service 177 (now): Bt Panjang to Bt Batok
Service 179 (past): CCK to New Bridge Road
Service 179 (past): CCK to Kajar Road
Service 179 (now): Boon Lay to NTU
Service 180 (past): Marsiling to World Trade Centre
Service 180 (now): Boon Lay to Bt Panjang
Service 182 (past): Marsiling to Shenton Way
Service 182 (now): Boon Lay to Tuas
Service 183 (1998-2003): Tuas to Tuas West Drive
Service 183 (now): Jurong East to Kent Ridge
Service 184 (past): Bt Merah to Jurong
Service 184 (now): Bt Panjang to Clementi
Service 185 (past): CCK to Shenton Way, cutback to Jln Anak Bt
Service 185 (now): SLDEP to Buona Vista
Service 186 (past): Clementi to Shenton Way
Service 186 (now): Shenton Way to St Michaels
Service 188 (past): Ulu Pandan to Shenton Way
Service 188 (past): Jurong to Jurong West
Service 188 (now): CCK to Harbourfront
Service 192 (past): Shenton Way to Jurong
Service 192 (now): Boon Lay to Tuas
Service 193 (past): Princess Elizebeth to Shenton Way (??)
Service 193 (now): Boon Lay to Tuas
Service 194 (past): South Canal to Yong Siak St
Service 194 (now): Boon Lay to Jurong Birdpark