SMRT Area residents being ignored?
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Hope all the bus operations come under SBST......
NEL also retains by SBST. -
I couldn't agree with you more on this.Originally posted by phillipC:Hope all the bus operations come under SBST......
NEL also retains by SBST. -
I dont believe NEL will stay under SBST if SBST took over all SMRT Bus operationOriginally posted by phillipC:Hope all the bus operations come under SBST......
NEL also retains by SBST. -
But if it really happens that SMRT takes the MRTs and SBS takes the buses, it would be back to square as in 1981. No TIBS even. So, it will be a largely monopolized industry, and it seems very unlikely that the government would do this because "competition is the way to go"Originally posted by carbikebus:I dont believe NEL will stay under SBST if SBST took over all SMRT Bus operation -
Even SMRT lines are now runned for profit
It's getting common for 8 mins waiting time during off peak -
the best case scenerio in my opinionOriginally posted by phillipC:Hope all the bus operations come under SBST......
NEL also retains by SBST.
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"competion", "competition" where?Originally posted by simnatic:But if it really happens that SMRT takes the MRTs and SBS takes the buses, it would be back to square as in 1981. No TIBS even. So, it will be a largely monopolized industry, and it seems very unlikely that the government would do this because "competition is the way to go"
compete which AREA's service better? or compete between routes, link between areas. -
5 mins for a North bound train is the norm. Irregular peak freq (one day 2 mins, another day 4 mins) is also the norm.Originally posted by sbst275:Even SMRT lines are now runned for profit
It's getting common for 8 mins waiting time during off peak -
I remember SMRT new Service 859A and new service for bt panjang residents Sv966Originally posted by metavolta:to summarise i think these are the changes over the years when SMRT took over :
1) Cosmetic change 2004 ( Remember it because i enlisted into Army) they painted the tibs buses with SMRT logo almost thought its SBS Transit
2) Number changes
( 175 -> 975)
( 341 -> 941)
( 345 -> 945)
(347 -> 947)
3) introduce Svc 965 ( Wdlands to Seng Kang)
Svc 963 ( Wdlands to Harbourfront)
Svc 882 ( Sembawang to Sembawang Road end)
Teacher Estate Bus ( Withdrawn)
Any other significant events?? LOL i can only remember these -
859A - A so-called only feeder service in Sembawang.Originally posted by SBS9889U:I remember SMRT new Service 859A and new service for bt panjang residents Sv966
966 - With the expanse of Woodlands residents. -
tsk tskOriginally posted by metavolta:to summarise i think these are the changes over the years when SMRT took over :
1) Cosmetic change 2004 ( Remember it because i enlisted into Army) they painted the tibs buses with SMRT logo almost thought its SBS Transit
2) Number changes
( 175 -> 975)
( 341 -> 941)
( 345 -> 945)
(347 -> 947)
3) introduce Svc 965 ( Wdlands to Seng Kang)
Svc 963 ( Wdlands to Harbourfront)
Svc 882 ( Sembawang to Sembawang Road end)
Teacher Estate Bus ( Withdrawn)
Any other significant events?? LOL i can only remember these
it wasnt 341, 345, 347.
it was 361, 365, 367
965 and 963 was there before 2004.
963 was around 2002
966 intro and amendments
945 had double improvements in 5 years
189 got bendies again
975 and 985 with AM bendies
77A with bendies
985 and W with its many amendments
187 increased from 17 buses to 23 buses
173A
NR 1 & NR 6
188E 963E
854E...and then additional trip
530, 531
Lentor Estate
SMRT shuttle
925 amendments
964 timings
859A
178 and 176 last bus timings
962 amendments
Sembawang Services intro (882, 167, 980, 981, 859)
307 amendments
those are that i can remember of from the 2001 merger -
Bro, you forgotten all about 950.Originally posted by muziq bus:tsk tsk
it wasnt 341, 345, 347.
it was 361, 365, 367
965 and 963 was there before 2004.
963 was around 2002
966 intro and amendments
945 had double improvements in 5 years
189 got bendies again
975 and 985 with AM bendies
77A with bendies
985 and W with its many amendments
187 increased from 17 buses to 23 buses
173A
NR 1 & NR 6
188E 963E
854E...and then additional trip
530, 531
Lentor Estate
SMRT shuttle
925 amendments
964 timings
859A
178 and 176 last bus timings
962 amendments
Sembawang Services intro (882, 167, 980, 981, 859)
307 amendments
those are that i can remember of from the 2001 merger -
Thats the best thing that people can ask for.Originally posted by phillipC:Hope all the bus operations come under SBST......
NEL also retains by SBST. -
bukit panjang extension isnt that long to affect ... besides juz by serving bp itself it benefits cck area and teckwhye people to use 966... boosting LRT as wellOriginally posted by Yaimster:859A - A so-called only feeder service in Sembawang.
966 - With the expanse of Woodlands residents. -
Agreed.Originally posted by patdog112:bukit panjang extension isnt that long to affect ... besides juz by serving bp itself it benefits cck area and teckwhye people to use 966... boosting LRT as well
Only regular riders would understand that with the new extension (5-10min extra) ridership on 966 increased.
On peak hours, look at how many ppl alight at BP area, leaving the bus quarter empty. -
Sorry folks.Its stated that IF SBST were to take over the bus operation then they had to surrender NEL whether we like it or not.Period.Competition?Dun make me laugh,They are listed as Private Limited when actually the main shareholder is.....
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Actually the bus operation only got affected when it changed brand. Meaning that, by right, Sv 966 was the last service that TIBS introduced.
I must say that SMRT had done some things, but not too much for the commuters. For example, the 950, Sv700, 966 extension to Petir Rd, longer operating hours for 806. However, other issues need to be tackled, for example, bus frequencies, lack of bus services in CCK North, lack of incentive to provide more new basic services, lack of connectivty in the NW region itself and from NW region to other areas. -
SMRT likes to do a lot of nonsense things : Recently wants to replace the ezylink card value added machine with one that does not require the card to be fully inserted into the machine. How many of our card really get "eaten" by the machine when we top up our card?
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Not to forget that they are refurbishing all of their OAC merc (currently) .Originally posted by Scania:Actually the bus operation only got affected when it changed brand. Meaning that, by right, Sv 966 was the last service that TIBS introduced.
I must say that SMRT had done some things, but not too much for the commuters. For example, the 950, Sv700, 966 extension to Petir Rd, longer operating hours for 806. However, other issues need to be tackled, for example, bus frequencies, lack of bus services in CCK North, lack of incentive to provide more new basic services, lack of connectivty in the NW region itself and from NW region to other areas.
And also the introduction of 922 i think . -
Since you asked, when ezlink came out there were so many slots on the machine that my grandparents wasn't sure where to insert the card. Once my mom's card got stuck. Then mine too. The other day i saw a group of foreigners commenting on the design, saying of how complicated it was to use. All in all, i think that new machines will not be too bad an investment. It will speed up topping up times and cause less confusion(if better designed)Originally posted by phillipC:SMRT likes to do a lot of nonsense things : Recently wants to replace the ezylink card value added machine with one that does not require the card to be fully inserted into the machine. How many of our card really get "eaten" by the machine when we top up our card? -
probably competition of who can sap out more money from singaporeansOriginally posted by Y_Shun:"competion", "competition" where?
compete which AREA's service better? or compete between routes, link between areas. -
That's actually true. TIBS, as a only bus company, would of course run better services as it want people to chooses the buses over trains. but it was since the merger that all the changes went more down the drainOriginally posted by Scania:Actually the bus operation only got affected when it changed brand. Meaning that, by right, Sv 966 was the last service that TIBS introduced.
I must say that SMRT had done some things, but not too much for the commuters. For example, the 950, Sv700, 966 extension to Petir Rd, longer operating hours for 806. However, other issues need to be tackled, for example, bus frequencies, lack of bus services in CCK North, lack of incentive to provide more new basic services, lack of connectivty in the NW region itself and from NW region to other areas. -
1 belongs to SLF, the other by TH
But let's put it, service standard really differs a lot -
Another complain against SMRT again today... Over why SBS has IRIS, SMRT nothing?
Worst, today is SMRT's 20th anni -
Looks like everyone has forgotton about 969.Originally posted by muziq bus:tsk tsk
it wasnt 341, 345, 347.
it was 361, 365, 367
965 and 963 was there before 2004.
963 was around 2002
966 intro and amendments
945 had double improvements in 5 years
189 got bendies again
975 and 985 with AM bendies
77A with bendies
985 and W with its many amendments
187 increased from 17 buses to 23 buses
173A
NR 1 & NR 6
188E 963E
854E...and then additional trip
530, 531
Lentor Estate
SMRT shuttle
925 amendments
964 timings
859A
178 and 176 last bus timings
962 amendments
Sembawang Services intro (882, 167, 980, 981, 859)
307 amendments
those are that i can remember of from the 2001 merger
965, 969 are introduced in response of 39, 85, 161, 168 to provide links between Hougang, Sengkang, Yishun and Woodlands, Tampines, Pasir Ris with all of them utilising the expressways.