[Completed] Redeployments (Part 4)
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Originally posted by SBS2695H:
I suggest SBST put the K230s on feeders/super low demand, unless they will make the trunk service official WAB. So few seats and want us to stand all the way on a longhaul? Seriously, I would'nt mind 222, 225, 228, 229 getting K230, like 231, 232 and 238, if the longhauls can be free from K230.As other forumers have mentioned, putting aside WAB considerations, the K230 subscribes to the concept of "crush loading" whereby the standing space can accomodate a greater nett amount of passengers compared to those seated. To maximise the use of this extra capacity, it should therefore be placed on high-demand services where passengers travel for short stretches (but not necessarily means the route itself is short-haul).
To state a few examples, services like 60 are a good choice due to the short distance most passengers take coupled with the high intensity of passenger volume over a short period of time (the peak hours). Deploying a bus with "crush-loading" capabilities will boost the capacity provision yet not result in wastage during off peak hours.
An example of a relatively longer service but still suitable for K230s is Service 36, where there is a high volume of passengers concentrated during the peak hours between Marine Parade and Suntec City. Similarly, Scanias will boost the capacity on this relatively short stretch without resulting in wastage on the rest of the route (to Changi Airport).
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Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
Yes, only left out SBS8460D.
SBS8161S & SBS8163L are also under amdep.SBS8151X to SBS8154M, you believe or not? :D
SBS8150Z is perm arbp S63 S-shift replacing SBS8068D, and SBS8140C is perm bbdep S165 replacing SBS8069B. SBS8077C is not perm S100 but SBS8118T.
Some kind soul please edit. Thanks a lot.
wat about SBS 8458L? -
What is the perm status of 9084A now?
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Originally posted by sv966:
However, do also remember that feeder services will enable the PIWs to tap on the MRT infrastructure (which has already been made PIW-friendly much earlier) to get to other parts of the island.
Between making a feeder service fully WAB versus making a trunk service partially WAB, the former will allow PIWs to have greater flexibility in making connections and not be constrained by the timetable, since the remainder of the MRT infrastructure is fully accessible (i.e. not constrained by timetable).
I would agree with you as the MRT is more suitable for PIWs to travel from town A to B. If you are a PIW and you want to go from Bedok to Clementi, you have two choices. 1. Take WAB service 14. 2. Take MRT. You would of course choose the MRT as it is much faster and more wheelchair friendly. Then you can depend on WAB feeders to go around the town. Is is quite possible for feeders to have full WAB fleet due to smaller fleet. However, services that connect the East and the North East eg. 87 can be WAB as you would take a big round to get from the East to North East on MRT. -
Originally posted by Oceane:
WAB status only comes in when the fleet for the service is over 50%. Any lesser and it cannot be WAB.not true. Sv 21 got 10 perm B9 right from first day B9 were introduced, out of 23 buses. Yet, it is a WAB bus service. Sv 76 also got less than 50% of the fleet as WAB.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
not true. Sv 21 got 10 perm B9 right from first day B9 were introduced, out of 23 buses. Yet, it is a WAB bus service. Sv 76 also got less than 50% of the fleet as WAB.
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Originally posted by sv966:
As other forumers have mentioned, putting aside WAB considerations, the K230 subscribes to the concept of "crush loading" whereby the standing space can accomodate a greater nett amount of passengers compared to those seated. To maximise the use of this extra capacity, it should therefore be placed on high-demand services where passengers travel for short stretches (but not necessarily means the route itself is short-haul).
To state a few examples, services like 60 are a good choice due to the short distance most passengers take coupled with the high intensity of passenger volume over a short period of time (the peak hours). Deploying a bus with "crush-loading" capabilities will boost the capacity provision yet not result in wastage during off peak hours.
An example of a relatively longer service but still suitable for K230s is Service 36, where there is a high volume of passengers concentrated during the peak hours between Marine Parade and Suntec City. Similarly, Scanias will boost the capacity on this relatively short stretch without resulting in wastage on the rest of the route (to Changi Airport).
With 500 buses I doubt very much SBST had crush-loading deployment on mind. It is more likely that all buses are going to be like that from here, especially when you consider how many seats have been removed with other buses.So.......this crush-loading concept is not a factor in deployment.
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Originally posted by SBS2618G:
What is the perm status of 9084A now?
It doesnt seem to appear in the SP Section of wikiSP.
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Originally posted by Oceane:
I mean in general for other WAB services. >.<
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Originally posted by SBS2618G:
What is the perm status of 9084A now?
It doesnt seem to appear in the SP Section of wiki
Spare for the forseeable hours to come. -
Originally posted by service_238:
Spare for the forseeable hours to come.haha... yup, i know what u mean... =D
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Originally posted by service_238:
I believe the criteria is 40%, not 50%.
I would think it is still 50%. Previously this wasn't the case, because S21 got 10 out of 23. However, amdep added in 2 more B9TLs into S21 which the tation became 12:23. After fleet addition of SBS9417Z into S21, the ratio becomes 12:24, 50%. There are also many WAB services which comprises of 50% WAB buses in the fleet. IIRC, S7 got its WAB status late because it didn't had enough B9TLs initially, that's why it wasn't certified, and instead, those services which got their B9TLs later than S7, ie S2 S51 S72 S76 were certified WAB earlier. -
Originally posted by azharjj:
haha... yup, i know what u mean... =D
That was so... xD -
heard that there would be DD on svc 78?
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
heard that there would be DD on svc 78?
is it a joke? -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
heard that there would be DD on svc 78?
Yes, it's true. Notice was at JE Int for the 3 days they did an IDFC data simulation of DD's being deployed on 78. -
Originally posted by ^tamago^:
Yes, it's true. Notice was at JE Int for the 3 days they did an IDFC data simulation of DD's being deployed on 78.
When will it start? -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
heard that there would be DD on svc 78?
According to sgwiki:SBS9044R SLBP 252 => SLBP 78
SBS9107T SLBP SP => SLBP 78
SBS9084A SLBP SP => SLBP 78
SBS9176T SLBP 179 => SLBP SP => SLBP 78
And all the O405s will be out of 78.
And FYI, SBS9126M (Former SLBP 242) replaces SBS9044R at 252.
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
heard that there would be DD on svc 78?
YES !!!Svc 78 gets ADD... =D
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
Yes, it's true. Notice was at JE Int for the 3 days they did an IDFC data simulation of DD's being deployed on 78.
What's an IDFC data simulation? -
Originally posted by toll123:
According to sgwiki:SBS9044R SLBP 252 => SLBP 78
SBS9107T SLBP SP => SLBP 78
SBS9084A SLBP SP => SLBP 78
SBS9176T SLBP 179 => SLBP SP => SLBP 78
And all the O405s will be out of 78.
Hope to take 1 to work tml...
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SBS872B
(34 HGDEP
325 HGDEP)SBS2785G
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Originally posted by toll123:
According to sgwiki:And FYI, SBS9126M (Former SLBP 242) replaces SBS9044R at 252.
So sad.. SBS 9126M got superb accleration which many 242 BC like it! Just refurbished somemore but got the loud howling when it brake.Oh no.. now SLBP only got 4 Spare DD. Short of DD again!
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2 days ago, I saw a Volvo B9TL deployed to 119. Anyone can confirm?