Volvo B7RLE Demonstrator: SBS8030L
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Meaning 480 more buses are needed as replacements. Also close to 500.Originally posted by service_238:My Stand
100 B9s as addition
100 B9s and 100 K230s replace 200 Mk2s
180 K230s replace 180 N113s (alot of them are gone already)
200 K230s replace 200 WA O405s
20 K230s replace 20 DM O405s
By right they should start deploying newer buses when the DM Merz retire.
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Make 1 round around Singapore.Originally posted by ^tamago^:Yes! Considering that almost every depot has a WAB service to accomodate 8030L.
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gd wad...then the bus have more exposureOriginally posted by Oceane:Make 1 round around Singapore.
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8030 in words. a review
two words.. i like... the inside
and now for too many words....
forget the outside. people have given bad names based on the outside. like demonator (sv966), ( ugly bus) ZYX / Mysterio bus (Off_service) - names copyright \XD
but the isndie ooh lala
a soothing yellow n beige configuration to calm you down. big wide windows gives the bus an big big feeling.
some seats are fitted at the front where the validator used to stand. these are the granny seats (SBS-boy) copyright. for grannies with children to seat together as they give space for 1 and a half pax. although listed as space for 1. So the volvo b7RLE has only 28 seats compared to the k230Ub which has 29 seats.
still at he front we plonk ourselves down at the granny seat to see the driver handle the bus. at the front u notice a volvo badge. this badging everywhere signifies that the bus is belong to volvo and not to SBS yet. given to SBS as demonstrator. u will find another volvo badge at the rear seating area. ah haaaah the rear seating area, will come to that later.
u find the seat is abit rigid but the cushion provides ample comfort. u are in fact seating on the first Singapore bus to use a vogesitze new gen bucket style seat. used more commonly in Europe and Australia. the seat is made in Australia. the reason to use these seats maybe is due to our Malaysian counterparts DEFTEC which built the rapidKl Same model bus, fit them with bucket style seats.
the dash looks like a typical b7RLe. but lately i been looking at bus dashes of modern buses and they do have on board computers.like the case of the Enviro 500 dash i seen recently in pix form on web. , the bus dash provides viewing displays for gauges and other info by tabbing through tabs like in windows like that.
the volvo b7RLE also features a on-bus diagnostic tab. assumed to be the ZF's Mobitec software implanted into the bus computer. Assumed used to diagnose transmission and/or engine problems.
you pan past the dash and u see something with WABCO. what is that?
that is a tyre and axle diagnostic panel. fitted onto the Soon Chow B7RLE by WABCo. it is a WABCO Smartboard gen 2. found more commonly in trucks and trailer trucks. trucks transport loads. and if the tyre pressure is not optimal, a tyre burst u in big trouble if the truck lose control. so the idea for the diagnostic devices. if the Micehllin logo on he device does not convince u that it is a device for tyre checking then i dunno leow.
when on, the display should show a skeletal structure of the bus where the tyres are. if a tyre is deemed to be in error. the tyre there will flash. if all is well, the turtle button is lit up. THIS is Singapore's first public bus with a tyre diagnostic system. more common in Europe.
those of u who in army drive MAN 5 -tonner trucks can also go see the tyre diagnsotic panels in those 5 tonner trucks. (operating instructions given by Alan who used to guan 5-tonner trucks in army?)
at the rear we find a common configuration on the rears of the mercedes Citaro. all around rear seats. first in Singapore but on a Volvo bus. this arrangement allows u to have a good meeting at the rear of the bus and not distract people. perhaps a curtain could be provided to enclose the area for a better discussion environment.
at the rear exit, after fitting the seats and the steps there is extra space carved out. Tis space i find it cool as they even put a strap holf for one person to hold n stand there. i call it one-man standee. its located right behind the exit door.
the wheelchair slot in bus also come with more grip areas for the wheelchair user for added safety.
from rear u can view the floor of the bus so many maintenance hatches.. this is for easy maintenance of the bus. i count 3 at the back and 1 right at the front.
i believe the hatch at the front is for access to the front axle or the ECU
ride wise, if sit at front, the suspension is soft as expected for a Volvo bus. at back nice comfy ride. bus picks up real quick with is over powering 290 HP engine. that is way better than the n113CRb of Scania SBS with 264HP. that exlains the chiong sensation when the bus moves. bus uses a ZF5HP592C gearbox not 6 speed. no rattling due to superior workmanship by oon Chow Coachworks. very good bus
review done
ZYX
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Let me name the bus (refers to the bodywork) the "Ultraman Bus"!Originally posted by ZYX2005:forget the outside. people have given bad names based on the outside. like demonator (sv966), ( ugly bus) ZYX / Mysterio bus (Off_service) - names copyright \XD
Add curtains and the bus becomes a mobile meeting room cum coach!Originally posted by ZYX2005:at he rear we find a common configuration on the rears of the mercedes Citaro. all around rear seats. first in Singapore but on a Volvo bus. this arrangement allows u to have a good meeting at the rear of the bus and not distract people. perhaps a curtain could be provided to enclose the area for a better discussion environment.
At least SBST thought about standee spaces.Originally posted by ZYX2005:at the rear exit, after fitting the seats and the steps there is extra space carved out. Tis space i find it cool as they even put a strap holf for one person to hold n stand there. i call it one-man standee. its located right behind the exit door.
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yeah it should. if things dun go well, they may only get to use it for only one year leh.Originally posted by nenepokey:gd wad...then the bus have more exposure -
Hopefully notOriginally posted by ^tamago^:yeah it should. if things dun go well, they may only get to use it for only one year leh. 
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Originally posted by sbst275:Hopefully not
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taken the ugly bus 8030L yesterday.
The performance is fabulous! Can be compared to the B9s despite the difference in the gearbox (5 vs 6 speed). No comments about the aircon because its new (means it better be good). The granny seats are good for couples.
Saw one couple sitting behind the driver with the bubble tea on the ledge
The rear seats is good for a nice cosy meeting (like the B9s) except that you cant open a mahjong table Brings down vandalism as well. Alternating chair colours brings out the uniqueness of this bus vis-a-vis others. The seats look ok but maybe give more cushion to it would be nice.
There's also a cosy loner standing area just behind the rear door. That area can squeeze 2 people in packed conditions. At least they made up for the loss of seats in the wheelchair area by having 2 granny seats in front.
oh ya the dash is great. Interactive (like the b9s) and easy to see. There's even a diagnostic device at the side. cool
2 thumbs up for the bus. Wish sbst can purchase 500 of the B7RLE instead of the K230 Cut the K230 orders down i hope. With bumper problems I think the K230 may not be suited for Singapore's roads. -
Actually, talking about the K230UB, could they have a tapered bottom (below the door) and a narrower bumper at the front to slightly increase its roadworthy on uneven roads?
Maybe SBST can modify the buses themselves... -
oh ya the aircom beehives or that circle thing....is very cheapskate!, so hard to turn!
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HAH! That's too early to say!Originally posted by service_238:taken the ugly bus 8030L yesterday.
The performance is fabulous! Can be compared to the B9s despite the difference in the gearbox (5 vs 6 speed). No comments about the aircon because its new (means it better be good). The granny seats are good for couples. Saw one couple sitting behind the driver with the bubble tea on the ledge
The rear seats is good for a nice cosy meeting (like the B9s) except that you cant open a mahjong table Brings down vandalism as well. Alternating chair colours brings out the uniqueness of this bus vis-a-vis others. The seats look ok but maybe give more cushion to it would be nice.
There's also a cosy loner standing area just behind the rear door. That area can squeeze 2 people in packed conditions. At least they made up for the loss of seats in the wheelchair area by having 2 granny seats in front.
oh ya the dash is great. Interactive (like the b9s) and easy to see. There's even a diagnostic device at the side. cool
2 thumbs up for the bus. Wish sbst can purchase 500 of the B7RLE instead of the K230 Cut the K230 orders down i hope. With bumper problems I think the K230 may not be suited for Singapore's roads. -
Circle. The older normal versions found on buses like the Lances.Originally posted by Y_Shun:oh ya the aircom beehives or that circle thing....is very cheapskate!, so hard to turn!
It's hard to turn because it's new, not cheapskate. -
but the feel is really differnt from those at Vo3xOriginally posted by ^tamago^:Circle. The older normal versions found on buses like the Lances.
It's hard to turn because it's new, not cheapskate. -
this is for the tech guys.
213kW = 290bhp.
look at the huge turbo coil on the top-right. omg.
below it is the catalytic convertor.
the radiator fan on the right is at a weird position, i suppose there are extra vents to direct the airflow to the radiator itself which is mounted on the nearside.
engines are green. the buttons are for manual engine start/stop/emergency stop.
And from 8030L itself...
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Really?Originally posted by Y_Shun:but the feel is really differnt from those at Vo3x
Maybe wait a while and see if it loosens up. I have trust in Soon Chow's bodywork finishing. -
wah they open let you take pictures?Originally posted by ^tamago^:this is for the tech guys.
213kW = 290bhp.
look at the huge turbo coil on the top-right. omg.
below it is the catalytic convertor.
the radiator fan on the right is at a weird position, i suppose there are extra vents to direct the airflow to the radiator itself which is mounted on the nearside.
engines are green. the buttons are for manual engine start/stop/emergency stop.
And from 8030L itself...
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Originally posted by twists:wah they open let you take pictures?
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Hey, Tammy, how you do that?
Go and ask permission to take pics of engine bay. Got BC friend or wat? -
Yeah. Saw it open, faster go and strike a deal. BC is friendly enough to give me a few more seconds.Originally posted by tintinspartan:Hey, Tammy, how you do that?
Go and ask permission to take pics of engine bay. Got BC friend or wat? -
8030L interior is far more better than the dull K230UBs.3 thumbs up!
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Main island should get B7RLE for long termOriginally posted by ^tamago^: -
Omg . Eu are wrong . Omg .Originally posted by ^tamago^:this is for the tech guys.
213kW = 290bhp.
look at the huge turbo coil on the top-right. omg.
below it is the catalytic convertor.
the radiator fan on the right is at a weird position, i suppose there are extra vents to direct the airflow to the radiator itself which is mounted on the nearside.
engines are green. the buttons are for manual engine start/stop/emergency stop.
And from 8030L itself...
Thats the air filter . You cant see the turbo in this pic. -
air filter so small ah?Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Omg . Eu are wrong . Omg .
Thats the air filter . You cant see the turbo in this pic.
sorry can't see the dehumidifier outlet below.
EDIT: maybe you're right, the coil appears to connect to the intake manifold and air intake at both ends. that vent on the left above the radiator should be for something else. and the blue hose out of engine is for radiator not air intake as i thought. -
A 7 litre engine no need duah ki filter mah.Originally posted by ^tamago^:air filter so small ah?
sorry can't see the dehumidifier outlet below.
EDIT: maybe you're right, the coil appears to connect to the intake manifold and air intake at both ends. that vent on the left above the radiator should be for something else. and the blue hose out of engine is for radiator not air intake as i thought. Wah if 7 litre oredi nd such a big one , then those 16 litre engine how?
But actually you may wonder , what about those huge engines on mining dump trucks? e.g. the Caterpiller 797 and Liebherr T282 (the former used to be the largest truck on earth . Now its the Libherr one.) ? They use about 3-5 huge filters .