ZF vs Voith
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So which is more desired?[/quote]
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ZF rocks!
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ZFOriginally posted by sbs&tibs:ZF rocks! 
High acceleration
Voith Slower acceleration
I would say for a small country like Singapore... ZF would have more advantage than Voith.
But... ZF rocks too! -
Voith
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dotz...u lyke voith...
in tt case, amdep shd sent da voith mercz n other depots sent mk3s over 2 slbp den...
vsos looks nice...but cant chiong cuz voith mah...at least 9888y can chiong cuz itz zf...tridents r execption...
zf really can perform better lor...Originally posted by stooper:Voith -
Voith:Easy to maintain but lack on top speed
ZF:Costly & Complicated but good in acceleration and top speed -
Voith can also give high speed if the BC wants.
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To me, Voith is kind of monotone
prefer ZF, especially when BC floored the acclerator, the sound is pleasant to my ears -
Voith for me...
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oh my, what talking u? Luckily u r nt the managementOriginally posted by SBS8043A:dotz...u lyke voith...
in tt case, amdep shd sent da voith mercz n other depots sent mk3s over 2 slbp den...
vsos looks nice...but cant chiong cuz voith mah...at least 9888y can chiong cuz itz zf...tridents r execption...
zf really can perform better lor... -
Neutral for the above two, maybe they should have more Allisons.
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I'd prefer a bus with ZF transmission over a one with Voith. I feel that Voith buses are a little bit sluggish. Too bad there are no buses in SG with an Allison World Series gearbox. I rode a bus which has an Allison in Penang and found that it behaves like a ZF but smoother.
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ZF for me !
Voith is more for Intercity IMO , where top speed is the concern . However in SG , where there are alot of stops , acceleration is still better .
Imagine this : You are in this bus . It has a Voith gearbox . The bus stops at a bus stop just before a traffic light and this particular traffic light you have to wait for 5 mins before it turns from red to green . Your bus finally departs from the stop and tries frantically to get up to speed and beat the light . However , the bus cannot make it on time and you ended up having to wait at the traffic light for 5mins. -
Thats what i like about Allison . The smoothness . Both Voith and ZF isn't smooth in either acceleration and deceleration . ZF is not smooth in Acceleration , the jerking can make you fall . Voith , when the retarder comes in , some BC can make you fall . Experienced it many times on a B9TL and Habits .Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:I'd prefer a bus with ZF transmission over a one with Voith. I feel that Voith buses are a little bit sluggish. Too bad there are no buses in SG with an Allison World Series gearbox. I rode a bus which has an Allison in Penang and found that it behaves like a ZF but smoother. -
But I will take Voith...
Not because my fav bus is fitted with Voith, but it tends to have that jerk of acceleration when the bus leave 0km/h.
However when there is a kick down (in gear), ZF produces the sound and 'howl' that is very much iconic ZF.
Voith kick down is just roar with more exhaust. -
ZF,Allison and 4 speed Voith for me
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juz lyk 170 BCs. always hav to floor the pedal. MKIII...acceleration sucks. but how abt VO2x? rocks!Originally posted by SBS3625D:Voith can also give high speed if the BC wants. -
Definitely.Originally posted by nenepokey:but how abt VO2x? rocks! -
The 5 tonners are fitted with a Allison 5-speed transmission if you're interested.Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:I'd prefer a bus with ZF transmission over a one with Voith. I feel that Voith buses are a little bit sluggish. Too bad there are no buses in SG with an Allison World Series gearbox. I rode a bus which has an Allison in Penang and found that it behaves like a ZF but smoother. -
Some garbage trucks are also fitted with Allison . Most notable are some Scanias from Colex and those FUSO trucks by SembWaste .Originally posted by SBS3625D:The 5 tonners are fitted with a Allison 5-speed transmission if you're interested. -
i like both voith and Zf
voith got nice whistles, combined with buses with turbo whistles like enviro 500 or MAn buses sound good. super comfort and energy cost savings with votihs.
Zf got cat calls and howls and sounds good n ride good also. -
my apologies, no offence please, do some of you all here know how does gearbox operate in order to comment on these issues?
Because from what I read, many are not even sure what are you talking about. -
7-->ZF
1-->Allison
13-->no preference/Voith -
Agree..Originally posted by MS:my apologies, no offence please, do some of you all here know how does gearbox operate in order to comment on these issues?
Because from what I read, many are not even sure what are you talking about. -
TakeOriginally posted by ZYX2005:i like both voith and Zf
voith got nice whistles, combined with buses with turbo whistles like enviro 500 or MAn buses sound good. super comfort and energy cost savings with votihs.
Zf got cat calls and howls and sounds good n ride good also.
SBS 3904Z in Svc 185, when the bus accelerates it has the whistle sound. Does it mean it is on with voith gearbox?