ZF vs Voith
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can anyone tell me the gearbox for the LO3X, and what are the ratios?
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Gearbox - ZF 4HP500 .Originally posted by SBS7484P:can anyone tell me the gearbox for the LO3X, and what are the ratios?
Ratios - Don't know.
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Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Then its not DIWA 381.4 for SC MKIV liao . MK3 uses DIWA 381.4 , same as Scania CRBs . So should be DIWA 863.3 . Anyway it isnt same as VO2x i think. VO2x uses DIWA 851.3 , just same speed , but different ratings . Voith types never fail to confuse me.
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lol okay..Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Gearbox - ZF 4HP500 .
Ratios - Don't know.
just wanted to kno.. cos i like the sound of LO gearbox, VO ratios abit too high -
The ratios are all the same, cos same gearbox. It's simply how they tune the gearbox.Originally posted by SBS7484P:lol okay..
just wanted to kno.. cos i like the sound of LO gearbox, VO ratios abit too high
There are some LOs that are tuned similar to the VO. -
i see..
btw sidetrack abit..
red ceiling SBS9006B
i saw it on 133 today
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Red aircon ducts or Red ceiling?Originally posted by SBS7484P:i see..
btw sidetrack abit..
red ceiling SBS9006B
i saw it on 133 today -
Red Aircon ducts.Originally posted by chickenlittle2:Red aircon ducts or Red ceiling? -
something like dat..
its the one wif all the aircon things in red err..
what should i call it..
PVC.
previously, a week ago on sv161 -
I have a print out of the Technical Data for the ZF Ecomat automatic transmission. The gear ratios for the 4HP500 is as follows:Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Gearbox - ZF 4HP500 .
Ratios - Don't know.
1st: 3.43
2nd: 2.01
3rd: 1.42
4th: 1.00
Rev: 4.84
Other datas:
Max. permissable input speed: 2800 rpm
Max. weight at engine torque (I'm not sure what this mean);
for city bus: 19 tons, 1100 Nm
for artic: 28t, 1050 Nm
Weight: 300 kg -
Strange . Whats the weight of the Habits ? I rmbr the Habits' OM447hLA engine produces 1100Nm.Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:I have a print out of the Technical Data for the ZF Ecomat automatic transmission. The gear ratios for the 4HP500 is as follows:
1st: 3.43
2nd: 2.01
3rd: 1.42
4th: 1.00
Rev: 4.84
Other datas:
Max. permissable input speed: 2800 rpm
Max. weight at engine torque (I'm not sure what this mean);
for city bus: 19 tons, 1100 Nm
for artic: 28t, 1050 Nm
Weight: 300 kg
Oh yes , whats reverse gear ratio for Voith DIWA 381.4 and DIWA863.3 ? -
Voiths are very easy to know . But the .3 .4 part very complicated , due to different versions.Originally posted by SBS3625D: Voith types never fail to confuse me. -
I assume that you can downtune the engine to suit the gearbox. The things must match not really like on the borderline...Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Strange . Whats the weight of the Habits ? I rmbr the Habits' OM447hLA engine produces 1100Nm.
Oh yes , whats reverse gear ratio for Voith DIWA 381.4 and DIWA863.3 ?
Its interesting, I will try the ratios on the game tt you and I know...
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Seriously no point lah. Cause ZF did offer gearboxes that matches the engine performances . You cut power and you actually cause the engine to work even harder , hence eating more fuel .Originally posted by TIB1224Y:I assume that you can downtune the engine to suit the gearbox. The things must match not really like on the borderline...
Its interesting, I will try the ratios on the game tt you and I know... -
does tt game happen to be RoR??Originally posted by TIB1224Y:I assume that you can downtune the engine to suit the gearbox. The things must match not really like on the borderline...
Its interesting, I will try the ratios on the game tt you and I know... -
What do ya think?Originally posted by SBS7484P:does tt game happen to be RoR??
RoR is a great game man . Learn to use manual . It can make the bus sound like its having a ZF slip-gear , no joke . You can drive bendies , DD* , tour bus 3 axle DD* , SDs , etc .
*To drive that bus , you must download it from the web first. It doesn come with the game package that you download. -
o.0 the 3 axle DD is out?? guy called seahkelvin asked for it in ror forums.. ^^
i managed to voith a bus.. 1st-3rd gear like voith, draggy..
then onwards cannot liao, cos the thing lost power if i carry on and try to voith it
edit: the voith-like gearing is optimised for auto trans. -
Theres even the Volvo 8500 with 3 axles .Originally posted by SBS7484P:o.0 the 3 axle DD is out?? guy called seahkelvin asked for it in ror forums.. ^^
i managed to voith a bus.. 1st-3rd gear like voith, draggy..
then onwards cannot liao, cos the thing lost power if i carry on and try to voith it
edit: the voith-like gearing is optimised for auto trans. But test drive that bus , theres no anti roll at all. I steer the bus even at medium speed the bus tips like hell . Just steering the bus left and right frantically can literally topple the bus .
Correct . using "Voith-mode" for manual mode is a little challenging . using manual is easier when doing ZF or Allison style. -
i got the 8500.. =)
then i copied all the important stuff of a breizh journey (somewhere in the repo)
and edited the front to make it fit the low dash of the breizh. haha
cos the 8500 was horrible at handling -
.3 and .4 are just codes for the different differential input clutch housings for compatibility with different engine types.Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:Voiths are very easy to know . But the .3 .4 part very complicated , due to different versions. -
9150S also.Originally posted by SBS7484P:i see..
btw sidetrack abit..
red ceiling SBS9006B
i saw it on 133 today -
SBS9147C is also anotherOriginally posted by ^tamago^:9150S also. -
wah so many red aircon
lol those got the new stuff smell.. lyk B9 lidat..