Originally posted by SBS7484P:same is for sv 159 during cny time.. i notice tat 159 has horrible 'crowd' cos noone want to go back, den the front so full, back so empty.
Like I've said it all depends
most of the time I see on 151 are always packed to the rear even on NAC MK2 at lunch time
Originally posted by sBs_boy:Yes i do agree that 325's route is kinda long due to the admendment in 2004 to serve Upp Serangoon Rd / Hougang Ave 2 / Ave 10.
I believe, what they could do is to reduce their run time for the trips during off-peak hours. This could speed things up abit.
Sv 325 got one BC that will drive very slowly, most of the time the bus behind will bunch up with his bus.
The killer part for Sv 325 is the Upp Serangoon Rd/Hougang Ave 2 and 3 junction. Especially during peak hours when it is turning into Hougang Ave 2, it can take up to around 8mins
For those people who conplain a lot regarding NAC buses on service 151, it is a good thing that service 151 will definitely become a FAC service by April 2008 after the last batch of Volvo MK2s are deregistered. Service 151 currently have only 2 NAC buses left out of total 25/28 buses (SBS1880X and SBS1893J)
However, I think that this will not solve the overcrowding problem. I also believe that DD buses are impossible on service 151 due to the routes along NUS. In fact SBST should consider deploying more buses on service 151 during peak hours (perhaps crossover buses from other services). Maybe Scania K230UBs may help as it has more standing spaces ![]()
Originally posted by TIB1018B:For those people who conplain a lot regarding NAC buses on service 151, it is a good thing that service 151 will definitely become a FAC service by April 2008 after the last batch of Volvo MK2s are deregistered. Service 151 currently have only 2 NAC buses left out of total 25/28 buses (SBS1880X and SBS1893J)
However, I think that this will not solve the overcrowding problem. I also believe that DD buses are impossible on service 151 due to the routes along NUS. In fact SBST should consider deploying more buses on service 151 during peak hours (perhaps crossover buses from other services). Maybe Scania K230UBs may help as it has more standing spaces
Ya..i agree with that..Too Bad 151 cannot have DDs...Can they have DDs?
Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Ya..i agree with that..Too Bad 151 cannot have DDs...Can they have DDs?
nope its either the trees or the steep bends, if not its the bridge somewhere in the middle of NUS..if not i believe they would have at leas xover DDs during NUS peak periods on 96 alr...
people relucant to move in.. each bus stop at each bus stop so long cos of crowd how can the frequency be good?..
same situation for 190 at orchard road
if put in Scania, those students will complain how come lesser seats....
Originally posted by gorby107:
Sv 325 got one BC that will drive very slowly, most of the time the bus behind will bunch up with his bus.The killer part for Sv 325 is the Upp Serangoon Rd/Hougang Ave 2 and 3 junction. Especially during peak hours when it is turning into Hougang Ave 2, it can take up to around 8mins
Yeah, that driver
Today just saw 2 325s leaving int together, 1 of them is he drive ![]()
Originally posted by SBS9888Y:nope its either the trees or the steep bends, if not its the bridge somewhere in the middle of NUS..if not i believe they would have at leas xover DDs during NUS peak periods on 96 alr...
It's the slope
Bridge affects Sv 95
Originally posted by sbst275:
It's the slopeBridge affects Sv 95
Bridge affects all 3 services - 95, 96, 151
Why not have 151 be DD and let it will run on the outside of NUS (Engineering and Design facultiies) and let it be...151D or something...
At least this will allow students to get to school first, taking a feeder service inside or walking might help??
Originally posted by deathscythe99:Bridge affects all 3 services - 95, 96, 151
Why not have 151 be DD and let it will run on the outside of NUS (Engineering and Design facultiies) and let it be...151D or something...
At least this will allow students to get to school first, taking a feeder service inside or walking might help??
Maybe then another feeder services would have to be provided (Could be better) and SRC bus stop would go w/o public bus svs ![]()
yea. Throw the initiative back to NUS.
NUS raise school fees mah....haahaha. Personally I think it's a better idea. lol.
But I dun understand why they cant send DDs to stop OUTSIDE of the campus. Think out of the box?? If the single decks cant handle the load then use DDs and plan it in such a way that they can transfer passengers to the final destination (NUS in this case, but there's other schools like SIM/NP/all the bukit timah sec schs etc)?
Since it's just that (stupid) bridge in NUS which causes the problem, why not just destroy that bridge (muhahaha)
Originally posted by deathscythe99:Bridge affects all 3 services - 95, 96, 151
Why not have 151 be DD and let it will run on the outside of NUS (Engineering and Design facultiies) and let it be...151D or something...
At least this will allow students to get to school first, taking a feeder service inside or walking might help??
actually i was thinking to introduce 74M or 74B , that run along the same route with Sv 74 , but it will go straight along Clementi Road and travel to Kent Ridge terminal. Maybe it can run at 15 mins frequency from 7am to 12 noon and use DD . Can use those VO2x loh since the students are asking for DD, but never mention AC or NAC. haha.
It will help to ease the load on Sv 151 and those students can choose to either transfer to Sv 96 along clementi road or alight at Kent Ridge terminal and take the internal shuttle near the Arts carpark (is there still shuttle service there?). I been almost 9 years never went back liao.
In the first place, SBST should not introduce Sv 151, then there will not be any complain. Everyone will take Sv 96. Even if increase the frequency of Sv 151 to 2 mins, it wont help also, cos of the traffic jam and you will still see buses bunching. Further, there is less demand out of NUS in morning, so what is SBST going to do with these extra buses, if they increase the frequency? All off service to Hougang/Bukit Timah to start new trips?
Originally posted by lemon1974:
It will help to ease the load on Sv 151 and those students can choose to either transfer to Sv 96 along clementi road or alight at Kent Ridge terminal and take the internal shuttle near the Arts carpark (is there still shuttle service there?). I been almost 9 years never went back liao.
ya the pair of bus stops is still there outside AS2, good for students transferring from Kent Ridge Terminal. It has A, B, D and BTC1 - basically access to every part of campus.
Originally posted by deathscythe99:yea. Throw the initiative back to NUS.
NUS raise school fees mah....haahaha. Personally I think it's a better idea. lol.
But I dun understand why they cant send DDs to stop OUTSIDE of the campus. Think out of the box?? If the single decks cant handle the load then use DDs and plan it in such a way that they can transfer passengers to the final destination (NUS in this case, but there's other schools like SIM/NP/all the bukit timah sec schs etc)?
Since it's just that (stupid) bridge in NUS which causes the problem, why not just destroy that bridge (muhahaha)
Maybe cos later ppl get confused, say I use 151 & 151K prefix
Later ppl get confuse which is which...
Sv 96 ever used DD as a trial, but apparently it's the slope tat causes the problem..
Originally posted by lemon1974:
actually i was thinking to introduce 74M or 74B , that run along the same route with Sv 74 , but it will go straight along Clementi Road and travel to Kent Ridge terminal. Maybe it can run at 15 mins frequency from 7am to 12 noon and use DD . Can use those VO2x loh since the students are asking for DD, but never mention AC or NAC. haha.It will help to ease the load on Sv 151 and those students can choose to either transfer to Sv 96 along clementi road or alight at Kent Ridge terminal and take the internal shuttle near the Arts carpark (is there still shuttle service there?). I been almost 9 years never went back liao.
In the first place, SBST should not introduce Sv 151, then there will not be any complain. Everyone will take Sv 96. Even if increase the frequency of Sv 151 to 2 mins, it wont help also, cos of the traffic jam and you will still see buses bunching. Further, there is less demand out of NUS in morning, so what is SBST going to do with these extra buses, if they increase the frequency? All off service to Hougang/Bukit Timah to start new trips?
The problem w/ VO2x is lesser capacity compared esp to MK4 and VO2x buses always rolls back on slopes
Not introduced? If dun have, ppl at Macpherson to Hougang will have no bus, Sv 154 might not be able to cope w/ Clementi Rd <-> Toa Payoh load alone either
I believe got to be like KMB, have section routes say 151C Toa Payoh <-> NUS and being a limited stop service or downroute, the one from Bt Timah can start from Toa Payoh instead to benefit more passengers
Originally posted by sbst275:The problem w/ VO2x is lesser capacity compared esp to MK4 and VO2x buses always rolls back on slopes
Not introduced? If dun have, ppl at Macpherson to Hougang will have no bus, Sv 154 might not be able to cope w/ Clementi Rd <-> Toa Payoh load alone either
I believe got to be like KMB, have section routes say 151C Toa Payoh <-> NUS and being a limited stop service or downroute, the one from Bt Timah can start from Toa Payoh instead to benefit more passengers
but at least VO2x got more seating capacities right? Further, i am not asking the DD to go inside NUS, just travel along clementi road towards kent ridge terminal. So it does not concern the slope. VO3x can also be used mah, if there is Sv 74M or Sv 74B.
PPl at macpherson still got sv 62 to hougang if there is no Sv 151. They can put all the buses on Sv 154 instead..
actually, when i was studying in NUS last time, there are downroute that start from Jalan Toa Payoh (opposite Blk 195 bus stop) and at the NIE bus stop at Bukit Timah and from NP. think now only got downroute from the NIE bus stop? i do get hold of the timing and usually,will get a seat though.. If not, i will usually take Sv 154 and transfer bus at NIE/NP or even clementi. As for limited stop service, usually it will be express or premium service. I dun think SBST will be interested.
Originally posted by lemon1974:
actually, when i was studying in NUS last time, there are downroute that start from Jalan Toa Payoh (opposite Blk 195 bus stop) and at the NIE bus stop at Bukit Timah and from NP. think now only got downroute from the NIE bus stop? i do get hold of the timing and usually,will get a seat though.. If not, i will usually take Sv 154 and transfer bus at NIE/NP or even clementi. As for limited stop service, usually it will be express or premium service. I dun think SBST will be interested.
There is FFW151e already.
Originally posted by lemon1974:but at least VO2x got more seating capacities right? Further, i am not asking the DD to go inside NUS, just travel along clementi road towards kent ridge terminal. So it does not concern the slope. VO3x can also be used mah, if there is Sv 74M or Sv 74B.
PPl at macpherson still got sv 62 to hougang if there is no Sv 151. They can put all the buses on Sv 154 instead..
actually, when i was studying in NUS last time, there are downroute that start from Jalan Toa Payoh (opposite Blk 195 bus stop) and at the NIE bus stop at Bukit Timah and from NP. think now only got downroute from the NIE bus stop? i do get hold of the timing and usually,will get a seat though.. If not, i will usually take Sv 154 and transfer bus at NIE/NP or even clementi. As for limited stop service, usually it will be express or premium service. I dun think SBST will be interested.
Actually personally I find 74 gotta serve ACJC/ SP esp 202 is replaced by 74 back in '93
But Sv 62 only serves MDI there... If your're at POSB or even Tai Seng you dun have any choices neither I do see any reason to add on Sv 62's load for no reason
Now it's only NUS BTC bus stop. If 179A can be implemented why not for 151? I dun think SBS would like to get complains just because of Svs like 151 when their service standard is good overall
I feel that the reason why buses plying service 151 bunches badly is partially due to the heavy congestion at Whitley Rd during the peak hours. Will it help if 151 continues to go PIE until Adam Rd and goes to Bukit Timah Rd from there?
154 can help to ply Whitley Rd and the affected section of Bukit Timah Rd due to the diversion of 151.
Originally posted by tanjun:I feel that the reason why buses plying service 151 bunches badly is partially due to the heavy congestion at Whitley Rd during the peak hours. Will it help if 151 continues to go PIE until Adam Rd and goes to Bukit Timah Rd from there?
154 can help to ply Whitley Rd and the affected section of Bukit Timah Rd due to the diversion of 151.
Adam Rd can be worst
Now the Whitley Rd there not so bad le
Originally posted by sbst275:The problem w/ VO2x is lesser capacity compared esp to MK4 and VO2x buses always rolls back on slopes
They could use those VO2x with standing area. They only have 3 less seats than the other VO2x.
Whether the bus roll back or not depends on BC driving style. That's why most 179 BCs will step on the accelerator for a 1-2 seconds before releasing the handbrake when climbing the NTU hill. The Standby/inexperienced ones dunno, they release handbrake first, then suddenly bus roll back.
Originally posted by SBS9889U:There is FFW151e already.
i know, but SBST275 is asking to introduce a limited stop service (151C) from toa payoh to NUS. Not me. There is FFW151E, but students are not taking, cos they cant use concession pass. So i dun think SBST will introduce another limited stop service from TPY to NUS. If they introduce, then those NTU/SP/NP/SIM or whichever school ppl, will ask SBST to introduce one service from each housing estate?
Originally posted by sbst275:Actually personally I find 74 gotta serve ACJC/ SP esp 202 is replaced by 74 back in '93
But Sv 62 only serves MDI there... If your're at POSB or even Tai Seng you dun have any choices neither I do see any reason to add on Sv 62's load for no reason
Now it's only NUS BTC bus stop. If 179A can be implemented why not for 151? I dun think SBS would like to get complains just because of Svs like 151 when their service standard is good overall
For SP, there are so many services plus MRT serving it, so the demand forSv 74 will be less. For ACJC, the demand is before 8 am? So if introduce SV 74M, i dun think it will affect the SP/ACJC ppl much. Just like last time, when there is SV 74 which terminate at NP. SBST can just do it the same way as those trips that terminate at NP, but this time round, terminal at Kent Ridge instead.
I do not wish to argue with u regarding the services along macpherson road. This is out of topic.
So SBST should introduce back those downroute from Jalan Toa Payoh and NP, then it will definitely help in the load of SV 151. For Sv 179, the journey is short and thus the traffic is not worst. But for Sv 151,it pass through a lot of crowded areas and thus affecting its frequency..
Originally posted by lemon1974:For SP, there are so many services plus MRT serving it, so the demand forSv 74 will be less. For ACJC, the demand is before 8 am? So if introduce SV 74M, i dun think it will affect the SP/ACJC ppl much. Just like last time, when there is SV 74 which terminate at NP. SBST can just do it the same way as those trips that terminate at NP, but this time round, terminal at Kent Ridge instead.
I do not wish to argue with u regarding the services along macpherson road. This is out of topic.
So SBST should introduce back those downroute from Jalan Toa Payoh and NP, then it will definitely help in the load of SV 151. For Sv 179, the journey is short and thus the traffic is not worst. But for Sv 151,it pass through a lot of crowded areas and thus affecting its frequency..
But times have changed, Sv 74's freq is very erratic aft 8am unless improvement is made
As for Macpherson, you started by saying at 1st place 151 should not be introduced. By withdrawing it, many ppl along many stretches or travel pattern would be affected which incl Macpherson. If you said no comments, then in the 1st place that comment should not be there
Actually it's the schedule does not reflect the true situation (My prev post, 1 bus supposed to arrive KR at 0923, yet at 0907 it's still at Aft Sixth Ave bus stop) rather than crowded area I suppose.