SMRT Redeployment from 23 March 2008

• Airbus330Captain

  13 Mar 08, 15:50

  Originally posted by Oceane:

  
  Yeah... I have no idea why they want to give 857 full WLDEP status because after all, Suntec/Marina area is closer to AMDEP then WLDEP; Yishun by right is under AMDEP's control too. Because if they originally intended to have 857 start from Sembawang, and after that it did not take place, by right 857 should be handed down to AMDEP.

  
    Well, now that the likes of 171 is being transferred to WLdepot, 857 won't be an oddball in Yishun anymore.

• gorby107

  13 Mar 08, 17:35

  Hope that they quickly change their CEO soon....

• service_238

  13 Mar 08, 20:11

  Originally posted by gorby107:

  Hope that they quickly change their CEO soon....

  
  yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!

• TIB1062Y

  13 Mar 08, 21:14

  Originally posted by gorby107:

  Hope that they quickly change their CEO soon....

  Yeah! I can't wait to see her go and taken over by another person.. This day will come and we shall see when is the time for it! Mua-ha-ha!!

• Oceane

  14 Mar 08, 11:35

  Originally posted by TIB1062Y:

  Yeah! I can't wait to see her go and taken over by another person.. This day will come and we shall see when is the time for it! Mua-ha-ha!!

  
  Me three!
  It's high time they get rid of that senseless CEO and replace with a more sensible one.

• Oceane

  14 Mar 08, 11:36

  Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:

  
    Well, now that the likes of 171 is being transferred to WLdepot, 857 won't be an oddball in Yishun anymore.

  
  It sounds as if Yishun is going to be under WLDEP control... then AMDEP controls nothing? x.X

• 566117

  14 Mar 08, 12:34

  Originally posted by Oceane:

  
  It sounds as if Yishun is going to be under WLDEP control... then AMDEP controls nothing? x.X

  
  Marina Centre & Geylang Lor 1?

• Oceane

  14 Mar 08, 12:43

  Originally posted by 566117:

  
  Marina Centre & Geylang Lor 1?

  
  I mean controlling a particular route group. Like WLDEP controls Woodlands and BBT while KJDEP controls BP and CCK.

• 5454

  14 Mar 08, 14:00

  Originally posted by Oceane:

  
  Me three!
  It's high time they get rid of that senseless CEO and replace with a more sensible one.

  
  ya hope she's out soon.

• gorby107

  14 Mar 08, 21:19

  Originally posted by 566117:

  
  Marina Centre & Geylang Lor 1?

  
  They can make good use of the ex-GLDEP.

  There is a petrol kiosk over there and can squeeze those buses that terminate at Geylang Lor 1 Ter, Marina Centre Ter and maybe even more.

• TIB1224Y

  15 Mar 08, 16:38

  Originally posted by 5454:

  
  ya hope she's out soon.

   

  Wah all gang up lols... :D

  Fifth one fifth one :D Out out out...

  But will it really improve, ok lah, hope at least better than now loh...

• nenepokey

  16 Mar 08, 19:29

  Originally posted by TIB1224Y:

   

  Wah all gang up lols... :D

  Fifth one fifth one :D Out out out...

  But will it really improve, ok lah, hope at least better than now loh...

  better kick her out as soon as possible. giving all sorts of rubbish excuses...

• Airbus330Captain

  17 Mar 08, 13:08

  Yeah sack that useless piece of crap (CEO) . Only know how to make money by opening those shops under the mrt stations. She's in the wrong business .

• off_service

  17 Mar 08, 13:39

  You people should be glad that her company is still operating. Given the past duopoly situation, there's nothing we can do. If you think you are rich enough, get a car. If you live in SMRT area, find alternatives or live with it.

  For me, I do the latter, though I have my fair share of complaints.

• SBS9888Y

  17 Mar 08, 16:54

  woodlands and cck int can be used for overnight parking..cant they?

• TIB1018B

  18 Mar 08, 01:12

  Confirmed: 12 SMRT services will be affected on Sunday 23/03/2008 (info based on a notice pasted at Yishun Interchange:-

  Service 61:
  Partial AMDEP/KJDEP  Partial AMDEP/WLDEP (KJDEP transfer all duties to WLDEP, no change for AMDEP duties)

  Service 75:
  Full WLDEP  Full KJDEP

  Service 106:
  Full KJDEP  Partial KJDEP/AMDEP (4 AP duties to AMDEP)

  Service 171:
  Full AMDEP  Partial AMDEP/WLDEP (6 AP duties to WLDEP)

  Service 173:
  Full KJDEP  Full WLDEP

  Service 177:
  Full KJDEP  Full WLDEP

  Service 190:
  Full KJDEP  Partial KJDEP/AMDEP (2 AP + 1 SS duties to AMDEP)

  Service 700:
  Full WLDEP  Full KJDEP

  Service 852:
  Full AMDEP  Full WLDEP

  Service 859:
  Full AMDEP  Full WLDEP

  Service 970:
  Full WLDEP  Full KJDEP

  Service 985:
  Full KJDEP  Partial KJDEP/AMDEP (8 AP + 1 SS duties to AMDEP)

  Expected redeployments:-

  • Service 852 Lances will most probably go to service 985, making service 985 a DAF/Lance fleet by then. 
  • Service 75 and 970 may have some DAFs over form service 985, as well as Merc fleets.
  • Scanias currently on services 75/700/970 might go to service 852, or maybe services 173 and 177 too.
  • Service 925 might get crossover WLDEP buses from service 177 during non peak hours.
  • AMDEP might transfer service 859 perm bendies to WLDEP.
  • Services 61, 106, 190, 700, 859 will most probaby remain as Merc and bendy fleets, regradless of depot transfer.

  Just wait and see this Sunday's redeployments

  Anyway something new to look out for :-

  • Scanias on service 61, 173, 177
  • Volgren Bendies on service 61
  • DAFs on services 700, 970
  • Lances on services 190, 985 (very likely for 985 )
• TIB1018B

  18 Mar 08, 11:02

  Originally posted by TIB1171R:

   CONFIRMATION from a very reliable source:
  
  ALL WEF SUNDAY 23rd MARCH 2008:
  
  (Prepare to be surprised even more!) <!--emo&:wacko:--><!--endemo-->
  
  Affected services:
  
  AM/KJ 61 > AM/WL 61
  WL 75 > KJ 75
  KJ 106 > KJ/AM 106 (4 regular to AM)
  AM 171 > WL 171
  KJ 173 > WL 173
  KJ 177 > WL 177
  KJ 190 > KJ/AM 190 (2 regular & something else to AM)
  WL 700 > KJ 700
  AM 852 > WL 852
  AM 859 > WL 859
  WL 970 > KJ 970
  KJ 985 > AM 985
  
  
  In summary:
  
  WOODLANDS DEPOT (FULL)
  171, 173, 177, 852, 859
  
  KRANJI DEPOT (FULL)
  75, 700, 970
  
  ANG MO KIO DEPOT (FULL)
  985
  
  ANG MO KIO + WOODLANDS
  61
  
  KRANJI + ANG MO KIO
  106, 190
  
  
  I sense a major, major redeployment of buses across all three depots this month!

  
  Corrections:

  Service 171 will be AMDEP/WLDEP controlled (6 AP duties to WLDEP)
  Service 985 will be KJDEP/AMDEP controlled (8 AP + 1 SS duties to AMDEP)

• off_service

  18 Mar 08, 11:14

  Originally posted by TIB1018B:

  
  Corrections:

  Service 171 will be AMDEP/WLDEP controlled (6 AP duties to WLDEP)
  Service 985 will be KJDEP/AMDEP controlled (8 AP + 1 SS duties to AMDEP)

  There's some discrepencies in the information regarding this 2 services. One was that they are still single depot controlled and another was dual depot controlled. Guess we have to wait till Sunday before we get the correct information.

• Scania

  18 Mar 08, 21:44

  Originally posted by TIB1018B:

   

  Service 985:
  Full KJDEP  Partial KJDEP/AMDEP (8 AP + 1 SS duties to AMDEP)

  CCK has a slightly different notice dated 3rd March 2008 (same as the Yishun circular). It states that 985 would be fully handed over to amdep.

• iveco

  20 Mar 08, 00:35

  Originally posted by TIB1018B:

  
  Should rename Sembawang services to 88x series, since there is a service 882. Eg:-

  Service 980  service 880
  Service 981  service 881
  Service 167  service 887
  Service 859  service 889

  For the same case SMRT should also have renamed service 700 to a 97x series after integrate with feeder service 921  (just like 521  963, 185  985, 175  975)

  
  859 is partly based in YIS, cannot renumber.

  700/700A can become 971/971A.

• iveco

  20 Mar 08, 00:38

  Originally posted by off_service:

  Way back in 2003, I overheard a driver saying that 857 was supposed to be extended to Sembawang via the "859 way", in which I presume they would be merge. But sadly, the amendment never take place.

  Service 882 is charging feeder fare if taking one directional, but a loop is trunk fare. I think SMRT presumes hardly anyone takes round trip. Same for service 859, travel within Sembawang is feeder fare.

  I suppose the extension of sv 852 is to help out with sv 169 as an alternative from Woodlands to Yishun and AMK. Sv 169 was often too packed to take pax during peak hours at Yishun Ind Pk A.

  Eversince TIBS days, services 858 and 969 were often suggested to extend to Sembawang. However, TIBS shot  down all requests (even SMRT) as that would breach the 1 hour travel time promise. However, in 2006, SMRT relented after MP Dr Lim Wee Kiak requested for service 858 to amend to ply Sembawang, but PTC shot it down citing reasons like increase in travel timing and fares.

  
  So 852 is to help out 169 & 856? By making a big loop from WDL to BBT via SBW, YIS and AMK?

• iveco

  20 Mar 08, 00:46

  Originally posted by gorby107:

  
  They can make good use of the ex-GLDEP.

  There is a petrol kiosk over there and can squeeze those buses that terminate at Geylang Lor 1 Ter, Marina Centre Ter and maybe even more.

  
  GLBP last time someone said will make way for new developments. All bus routes terminating there will be amended to Kallang Park when CCL opens.

   

  Heck, I'd rather BBT and BPJ remained with their original depots as well as:

  61 becoming maj KJ/min GL

  853 becoming maj AM/min GL

  854 becoming maj AM/min GL

  961 becoming min WL/maj GL

  980 becoming min AM/maj GL

  985 becoming min KL/maj GL

   

• iveco

  20 Mar 08, 00:50

  Originally posted by off_service:

  You people should be glad that her company is still operating. Given the past duopoly situation, there's nothing we can do. If you think you are rich enough, get a car. If you live in SMRT area, find alternatives or live with it.

  For me, I do the latter, though I have my fair share of complaints.

  
  My cousin living in CCK got fed up and bought a car. NW sector went all hte way downhill post-1999, while NE ended up slightly better.

• Scania N113CRB luver

  20 Mar 08, 17:41

  TIB674M spotted as training bus at Bukit Timah road, the part where 852 turns right into Bukit Timah from Bukit Batok. Possible future permer on 852?

• TIB1018B

  20 Mar 08, 18:05

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  TIB674M spotted as training bus at Bukit Timah road, the part where 852 turns right into Bukit Timah from Bukit Batok. Possible future permer on 852?

   

  Possible, since it is currently a service 75 permer and service 75 is outgoing whereas service 852 is incoming. Based on AMDEP and KJDEP (before 2004) deployment patterns for service 852, I assume that service 852 will be getting majority Scanias once WLDEP takes over .

  Btw TIB674M was last perm on service 852 under AMDEP in 2000, before it got transferred to WLDEP