Will it pe possible that service 6 gets perm Scania K230UBs too once all the NAC buses gets deregistered this coming 8 Dec? Since there has been cameos happening before.
Qn: Since when has SMRT buses started have the orange-themed EDS?
I feel it's bright enough to be seen from afar...those current green coloured ones are starting to shows sign of haywire and they cannot be seen clearly from far during daytime...perhaps can only see them in the night...
Urgent...
1) Is there any downroute for service 74 on Sundays coz i need to get to hougang at 6.15am. I'm from Marymount road?
2) Downroute starts from where if there is one?
You guys can carry on whining about which depot should get whatever buses. You know something? I dont want buses from these 2 incompetent companies anymore.Fine, let BNdepot have all the old buses if that makes you happy. If given a choice, I would like KMB from HK to be our 3rd bus company and take over the eastern part of Singapore. I would gladly be on a MAN bus waving at you guys especially those on the crappy pathetic K230UBs.
I would not settle for the 2nd best if I would you guys.
1980s and 1990s are still the best days of bus spotting. We have so many different bus types are the service is way way better than now. What I have just said is just an understatement.
Our transport in 2008 is way way backwards. If you ask me there should already be an intergrated season pass, more concession passes for both visitors and working adults and fleet of both buses should at least be 80% low floor if not wheelchair buses.
When my UK friends came to Singapore and took the K230UB for their first time, do you know what was their comment?
-Pathetic bus, are you sure this is your new bus? Why are the steps so high up? Why is the braking and suspension so terrible? Is it due to their maintainence? Mind you it was 8497 on her first day of svc. ( A good condition KUB bus on 36)
I can go on and on. These are just a few issues that I hope would be ironed out in the future.
What should be done?
A total revamp of our Singapore transport system.
Discussions are welcomed through my msn or cell phone as I don't come here as often as I used to do.
Cheers.
-> Gemilang bodied buses interior for SBST, brown, more brown.
-> Gemilang bodied buses interior for SMRT, brown, grey.
Then also, the aircon panelling looks kinda...cheap off shelf products.
Did SBST and SMRT both abandon interior design to keep cost down?
Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:You guys can carry on whining about which depot should get whatever buses. You know something? I dont want buses from these 2 incompetent companies anymore. IF given a choice, I would like KMB from HK to be our 3rd bus company and take over the eastern part of Singapore. I would gladly be on a MAN bus waving at you guys especially those on the crappy pathetic K230UBs.
I would not settle for the 2nd best if I would you guys.
1980s and 1990s are still the best days of bus spotting. We have so many different bus types are the service is way way better than now. What I have just said is just an understatement.
Our transport in 2008 is way way backwards. If you ask me there should already be an intergrated season pass, more concession passes for both visitors and working adults and fleet of both buses should at least be 80% Low floor if not wheelchair buses.
When my UK friends came to Singapore and took the K230UB for their first time, do you know what was their comment?
-Pathetic bus, are you sure this is your new bus? Why are the steps so high up? What is the suspension and the bus suspension so bad. Is it due to their maintainence? Mind you it was 8497 ( A good condition KUB bus on 36)
I can go on and on.
What should be done?
A total revamp of our Singapore transport system.
Discussions are welcomedthrough my msn or cell phone. As I don't come here as often as I used to do.
Cheers.
At least our transport system is better than our counterparts across the island? U ought to know "rome wasn't built in a day" and I believe that such complex transport systems can't be drafted out within a matter of just months.... I understand the challenges faced by our operators...
I understand your position but unless you have the authority to make changes to the committee of the 2 main operators and draft a new masterplan for the new few years, I guess we have to be patient and stay with it...
Originally posted by lianamaster:At least our transport system is better than our counterparts across the island? U ought to know "rome wasn't built in a day" and I believe that such complex transport systems can't be drafted out within a matter of just months.... I understand the challenges faced by our operators...
I understand your position but unless you have the authority to make changes to the committee of the 2 main operators and draft a new masterplan for the new few years, I guess we have to be patient and stay with it...
From your post, I guess you are less than 20 years old? I suggest you to check the history first before commenting.
Don't compare ourselves with our counterparts.Why? We will never be satisfied. Wait till you go to KL and try their new buses, don't be shocked. You should be focusing on your own country.
The very min requirement that we commutors expect is at least the service. Look at our service especially the WAB issue. It says it all. I don't mind the increment of the bus fares and mrt fare but please justifiy it ! Both companines have shown none.
Can anyone tell me the departure timings for the Svc 851 Crossover to 856?
Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:Urgent...
1) Is there any downroute for service 74 on Sundays coz i need to get to hougang at 6.15am. I'm from Marymount road?
2) Downroute starts from where if there is one?
Which part? near Shunfu or near Bishan St 22? The first buses northbound are at least 0630hrs. If u want to reach Hougang by 0615hrs, u need to cab there.
First bus S88 from Bishan MRT towards Pasir Ris is 0535hrs, first bus S74 from AMK MRT towards Hougang is 0600hrs.
What you can do is to walk to Bishan St 22 take 88 to Hougang Ave 8 Montford Sec, transfer to 74 or 101.
Originally posted by ^tamago^:
top left ticket number, bottom left rego...
So based on the bottom left as rego no; these tickets were believed to be from Albon Viking EVK41L with Soon Chow bodywork buses. The pictures of these buses that can be found on pg14 of Mike Davis "Singapore Buses - Part One" shows that these buses got only one door at the middle. But I remembered when i was very young that this type of ticket started around yr 1983 - the yr when old AMK bus interchange opened; that period of time was already the MB OF1417 buses era? any seniors can shed more light on this mystery?
Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:
From your post, I guess you are less than 20 years old? I suggest you to check the history first before commenting.Don't compare ourselves with our counterparts.Why? We will never be satisfied. Wait till you go to KL and try their new buses, don't be shocked. You should be focusing on your own country.
The very min requirement that we commutors expect is at least the service. Look at our service especially the WAB issue. It says it all. I don't mind the increment of the bus fares and mrt fare but please justifiy it ! Both companines have shown none.
I am new here, and will like to join into this discussion about our bus services. I had the privilege of enjoying the rides of various bus models in my younger days.
While I appreciate the renewal of the buses, the bus companies should really invest in the maintaining the appearance of the buses. And not forgetting the interior and air conditioning too. Not forgetting each bus costing a few hundred k. During my part time days with SBS, each driver is assigned his own bus, with a partner. And they don't change bus unless their "baby" is in the workshop or transferred. They are ultimately responsible to the well being of their bus.
Bus rides are fun especially with the variety. But not much more. I am still hopeful that SBS will include more bus models, not just keeping to the Scania.
I have also read with interests about some of the questions pertaining to the mechanicals of the buses. I will love to exchange some info.
Originally posted by BB2001:I am new here, and will like to join into this discussion about our bus services. I had the privilege of enjoying the rides of various bus models in my younger days.
While I appreciate the renewal of the buses, the bus companies should really invest in the maintaining the appearance of the buses. And not forgetting the interior and air conditioning too. Not forgetting each bus costing a few hundred k. During my part time days with SBS, each driver is assigned his own bus, with a partner. And they don't change bus unless their "baby" is in the workshop or transferred. They are ultimately responsible to the well being of their bus.
Bus rides are fun especially with the variety. But not much more. I am still hopeful that SBS will include more bus models, not just keeping to the Scania.
I have also read with interests about some of the questions pertaining to the mechanicals of the buses. I will love to exchange some info.
Welcome to SgForums!
Originally posted by nenepokey:Welcome to SgForums!
Thanks.
What is your favourite model?
Originally posted by BB2001:I am new here, and will like to join into this discussion about our bus services. I had the privilege of enjoying the rides of various bus models in my younger days.
While I appreciate the renewal of the buses, the bus companies should really invest in the maintaining the appearance of the buses. And not forgetting the interior and air conditioning too. Not forgetting each bus costing a few hundred k. During my part time days with SBS, each driver is assigned his own bus, with a partner. And they don't change bus unless their "baby" is in the workshop or transferred. They are ultimately responsible to the well being of their bus.
Bus rides are fun especially with the variety. But not much more. I am still hopeful that SBS will include more bus models, not just keeping to the Scania.
I have also read with interests about some of the questions pertaining to the mechanicals of the buses. I will love to exchange some info.
Hmm, say, to maintain the appearance of the buses in tip top condition (paintwork, bodywork, interior) is a tad too demanding lol.
From what i observe:
To begin with, the buses will be used till it's lifespan expiry at 17 years from the date of purchase (excluding lifespan extensions). During these years, the buses will go through various environments and elements, such as dust, dirt, mud, rain, sun. Exterior wise, all the environments and elements would have worn down the shiny new paintwork in a matter of days
Interior wise, the components will wear down, be vandalised, etc. Also, the elements will have worn in after aging, and if there's a long lifespan remaining for the bus, they'll replace the worn components
BCs take a look at their bus everyday to check the conditions of their buses before their start of the day in the morning, sweep the floors, clean the rubbish from the window ledge. Over the course of the day, inconsiderate passengers would have littered the bus in places the BC may not notice.
The bus company takes reasonable effort to wash the bus fleets to clean them till the day where they will bring the bus for repainting/refurbishing during their mid-life. For example, SMRT recently refurbished their O405's interior.
For now, i feel that the variety of buses is still there. But if the replacement buses for other outgoing buses are Gemilang bodyworked buses, then maybe there'll be a reason to be bored.
Originally posted by BB2001:Thanks.
What is your favourite model?
for me will be a Scania L113CRL (Strider) or a MB OC500LE.
Originally posted by TIB537B:
Hmm, say, to maintain the appearance of the buses in tip top condition (paintwork, bodywork, interior) is a tad too demanding lol.From what i observe:
To begin with, the buses will be used till it's lifespan expiry at 17 years from the date of purchase (excluding lifespan extensions). During these years, the buses will go through various environments and elements, such as dust, dirt, mud, rain, sun. Exterior wise, all the environments and elements would have worn down the shiny new paintwork in a matter of days
Interior wise, the components will wear down, be vandalised, etc. Also, the elements will have worn in after aging, and if there's a long lifespan remaining for the bus, they'll replace the worn components
BCs take a look at their bus everyday to check the conditions of their buses before their start of the day in the morning, sweep the floors, clean the rubbish from the window ledge. Over the course of the day, inconsiderate passengers would have littered the bus in places the BC may not notice.
The bus company takes reasonable effort to wash the bus fleets to clean them till the day where they will bring the bus for repainting/refurbishing during their mid-life. For example, SMRT recently refurbished their O405's interior.
For now, i feel that the variety of buses is still there. But if the replacement buses for other outgoing buses are Gemilang bodyworked buses, then maybe there'll be a reason to be bored.
Agree it is demanding. But image is important.
The bus companies should assign the buses to the same pair of BC, as in the past. This may improve its maintenance level. I used to see BC taking pride in their buses and decorating their buses during festive seasons, but not anymore.
We have only got MB, Volvo, Scania, Leyland and a few Dennis, and not forgetting the lone MAN to talk about.
Originally posted by BB2001:The bus companies should assign the buses to the same pair of BC, as in the past. This may improve its maintenance level. I used to see BC taking pride in their buses and decorating their buses during festive seasons, but not anymore.
SMRT does that for certain services afaik...drivers follow bus.
Originally posted by nenepokey:for me will be a Scania L113CRL (Strider) or a MB OC500LE.
My personal favourite is Volvo B10M MKII. The current MKIV is good too.
Followed by MB O305.
I like the Volvo mid-engine design. Gives good balance when negotiating a bend, much better than rear engine models. And it does not have the rocking horse effect when taking on a road hump.
Anyone here knows where to replace digital clock for buses? Can i have the name of the shop & the address if possible.
Originally posted by swee_heng:Anyone here knows where to replace digital clock for buses? Can i have the name of the shop & the address if possible.
are u driving private bus?
Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:You guys can carry on whining about which depot should get whatever buses. You know something? I dont want buses from these 2 incompetent companies anymore.Fine, let BNdepot have all the old buses if that makes you happy. If given a choice, I would like KMB from HK to be our 3rd bus company and take over the eastern part of Singapore. I would gladly be on a MAN bus waving at you guys especially those on the crappy pathetic K230UBs.
I would not settle for the 2nd best if I would you guys.
1980s and 1990s are still the best days of bus spotting. We have so many different bus types are the service is way way better than now. What I have just said is just an understatement.
Our transport in 2008 is way way backwards. If you ask me there should already be an intergrated season pass, more concession passes for both visitors and working adults and fleet of both buses should at least be 80% low floor if not wheelchair buses.
When my UK friends came to Singapore and took the K230UB for their first time, do you know what was their comment?
-Pathetic bus, are you sure this is your new bus? Why are the steps so high up? Why is the braking and suspension so terrible? Is it due to their maintainence? Mind you it was 8497 on her first day of svc. ( A good condition KUB bus on 36)
I can go on and on. These are just a few issues that I hope would be ironed out in the future.
What should be done?
A total revamp of our Singapore transport system.
Discussions are welcomed through my msn or cell phone as I don't come here as often as I used to do.
Cheers.
Aren't you whining too? =.=
Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
So based on the bottom left as rego no; these tickets were believed to be from Albon Viking EVK41L with Soon Chow bodywork buses. The pictures of these buses that can be found on pg14 of Mike Davis "Singapore Buses - Part One" shows that these buses got only one door at the middle. But I remembered when i was very young that this type of ticket started around yr 1983 - the yr when old AMK bus interchange opened; that period of time was already the MB OF1417 buses era? any seniors can shed more light on this mystery?
Hi,
All of the single door Albion Viking EVK41Ls were re-bodied and fitted with a front entrance and centre exit door to facilitate One-Man-Operation (OMO).
Regards,
thebusguide
Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:You guys can carry on whining about which depot should get whatever buses. You know something? I dont want buses from these 2 incompetent companies anymore.Fine, let BNdepot have all the old buses if that makes you happy. If given a choice, I would like KMB from HK to be our 3rd bus company and take over the eastern part of Singapore. I would gladly be on a MAN bus waving at you guys especially those on the crappy pathetic K230UBs.
I would not settle for the 2nd best if I would you guys.
1980s and 1990s are still the best days of bus spotting. We have so many different bus types are the service is way way better than now. What I have just said is just an understatement.
Our transport in 2008 is way way backwards. If you ask me there should already be an intergrated season pass, more concession passes for both visitors and working adults and fleet of both buses should at least be 80% low floor if not wheelchair buses.
When my UK friends came to Singapore and took the K230UB for their first time, do you know what was their comment?
-Pathetic bus, are you sure this is your new bus? Why are the steps so high up? Why is the braking and suspension so terrible? Is it due to their maintainence? Mind you it was 8497 on her first day of svc. ( A good condition KUB bus on 36)
I can go on and on. These are just a few issues that I hope would be ironed out in the future.
What should be done?
A total revamp of our Singapore transport system.
Discussions are welcomed through my msn or cell phone as I don't come here as often as I used to do.
Cheers.
A good statment,.....if KMB is to come here, i will board all the buses..hope then the speed limit is raised to 80kph
I am still fotunate to be able to board the Leyland Oylimpians 2 Axle as well as LA, as well as Mk 2 and so old buses, i pity those new young bus fans comming into the era of this SBST and SMRTB days 10 years later, what they are spotting are KUBS and OCS, it is really a bad time.
Speaking to KUBS...here are some comments i had collected
"Those buses sucks, high steps, no seats"
"Old people falls and no place to handle PIW as other people take the seats"
By some people close to me
It is seriously a time to rethink about our transport policies and our modal of transport. My suggestion of buses are
1. Allow non WAB buses to be brought and deployed on routes that are not WAB friendy
2. Thrid bus company needed...not local....foreign company needed and no limitations to their buses
3. In addition, improving frequency is a must, and those buses need to be faster, as in the speed limit is to be raised to 65-68kph....
Seriously I don't get some of LTA's stuff.
"Mandatory purchase of WABs"
"Buses must be 15m or less"
WTF
Do they use their brains or not on the implications?
Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:Seriously I don't get some of LTA's stuff.
"Mandatory purchase of WABs"
"Buses must be 15m or less"
WTF
Do they use their brains or not on the implications?
Mandatory purchase of WABs -> To allow the gradual transition of SG's public transport to be accessible to all by (i think) 2020. Now there are still high floor buses -> the Hispano Habits were most likely the last batch of buses that are having two steps at the entrance and exit.
Buses must be 15m or less -> Lessons learnt from the bendies. Too long, not good. But 15m bus still quite long though.
i'm curious though, what are the implications you are thinking that it have?