Volvo B10TL's on feeder services
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Originally posted by SBS9888Y:
i disagree. buy more B9TL. if you want volren bodywork like those B10TL would be fine.
51 is enough. they are slow, they waste fuel and they are noisy.
If they are slow, they waste fuel and they are noisy, they are good for feeders but I don't think it is noisy from the inside. -
Originally posted by I miss old annoucements:
If they are slow, they waste fuel and they are noisy, they are good for feeders but I don't think it is noisy from the inside.would prefer other buses to do feeders anyway. what we are saying is. since we have 51 B10TLs jus put the current ones on feeders and shorthaul. dun go and get anymore B10TLs. more than enough.in fact can sell some away.
this younger generation of bus fans cannot appreciate bus specs but only how the bus looks. they also dun appreciate old buses which are way better than the newer buses. like LO3x. so much more powerful than a B10TL.
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Originally posted by SBS9888Y:
would prefer other buses to do feeders anyway. what we are saying is. since we have 51 B10TLs jus put the current ones on feeders and shorthaul. dun go and get anymore B10TLs. more than enough.in fact can sell some away.
this younger generation of bus fans cannot appreciate bus specs but only how the bus looks. they also dun appreciate old buses which are way better than the newer buses. like LO3x. so much more powerful than a B10TL.
Maybe SBST can refurbish our LO3x's. Maybe good look = bad specs and average looks = better specs. Anyway, I also appreciate our Volvo MKIVs (well mantained ones without problems), Scania N113CRB (OAC and CAC) and Merz O405 (OAC and CAC)'s engines. Some of the Merz O405 are undergoing refurbishment. I wonder how it will look like. The Merz O405s have a degree of smoothness that I don't think our K230UBs have. -
Originally posted by SBS9888Y:
would prefer other buses to do feeders anyway. what we are saying is. since we have 51 B10TLs jus put the current ones on feeders and shorthaul. dun go and get anymore B10TLs. more than enough.in fact can sell some away.
this younger generation of bus fans cannot appreciate bus specs but only how the bus looks. they also dun appreciate old buses which are way better than the newer buses. like LO3x. so much more powerful than a B10TL.
It's not even in production anymore. How to get some more?
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Originally posted by Superbus:
It's not even in production anymore. How to get some more?
if they wanna get second hand
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Originally posted by I miss old annoucements:
Maybe SBST can refurbish our LO3x's. Maybe good look = bad specs and average looks = better specs. Anyway, I also appreciate our Volvo MKIVs (well mantained ones without problems), Scania N113CRB (OAC and CAC) and Merz O405 (OAC and CAC)'s engines. Some of the Merz O405 are undergoing refurbishment. I wonder how it will look like. The Merz O405s have a degree of smoothness that I don't think our K230UBs have.doesnt mean good looking bus is lousy. our CNGs have good pickup and acceleration though they are problematic. but the new buses now, arent as powerful as the older buses last time. e.g MKII.
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Originally posted by SBS9888Y:
if they wanna get second hand
do you even see SBST taking in 2nd buses? -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
do you even see SBST taking in 2nd buses?
i said IF THEY.i m sick and tired of fighting. kindly stop messing around with me unless you wanna talk it out face to face. if not kindly keep mum.
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
do you even see SBST taking in 2nd buses?
wawa...u reali lyke 2 luk ppl up 4 a fight??? or izit u got ayam eyes instead??? -
Originally posted by SBS8043A:
wawa...u reali lyke 2 luk ppl up 4 a fight??? or izit u got ayam eyes instead???
let him be la. -
Originally posted by SBS9888Y:
if they wanna get second hand
'If' is not in the question. Second hand buses are not allowed with regards to LTA's regulations.
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Originally posted by SBS9888Y:
this younger generation of bus fans cannot appreciate bus specs but only how the bus looks. they also dun appreciate old buses which are way better than the newer buses. like LO3x. so much more powerful than a B10TL.
Talking about powerful buses, i would say LO3x is still not the best. O305 should be the bus that is powerful. -
Originally posted by sBs_boy:
Talking about powerful buses, i would say LO3x is still not the best. O305 should be the bus that is powerful.haha some of the bus fans have never had a chance to ride those. i put LO3x at least they may have an experience. i remember a BC telling me that he missed the O305s alot. even wanna bring it home.
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Originally posted by Superbus:
'If' is not in the question. Second hand buses are not allowed with regards to LTA's regulations.
well what if things change in the future. we're talking about the what ifs.
well its good that we have only 51. haha.
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Originally posted by sBs_boy:
Talking about powerful buses, i would say LO3x is still not the best. O305 should be the bus that is powerful.But for now i think the ZF B9TLs fits the title
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Originally posted by SBS9888Y:
haha some of the bus fans have never had a chance to ride those. i put LO3x at least they may have an experience. i remember a BC telling me that he missed the O305s alot. even wanna bring it home.
I may have rided it once or twice on Service 28 or 31 when I was below 6 years old. -
Originally posted by I miss old annoucements:
I may have rided it once or twice on Service 28 or 31 when I was below 6 years old.
i love those.. lots in serangoon int last time. they were horribly noisy just like the Leyland atlanteans, but they were nice to ride. -
Originally posted by SBS7484P:
i love those.. lots in serangoon int last time. they were horribly noisy just like the Leyland atlanteans, but they were nice to ride.
I remember clearly their W3E gearbox had 1 second of silence between gear shifts...e.g. From 1st gear: Roar~ (silence) [switch gear] Roar~ (repeat)
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Do remember that the O305's were NAC buses.
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Originally posted by I miss old annoucements:
Do remember that the O305's were NAC buses.
As if we don't know... -
Originally posted by Oceane:
I remember clearly their W3E gearbox had 1 second of silence between gear shifts...e.g. From 1st gear: Roar~ (silence) [switch gear] Roar~ (repeat)
yes, that 1 second of silence was heaven.. after that it was rattling and, well, all those hub reduction axle sounds again. haha. atlanteans sounded like this too. the manual gearbox.. i liked it. to me, those atlantean wheels look nicer than alcoa rims.
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Originally posted by Oceane:
I remember clearly their W3E gearbox had 1 second of silence between gear shifts...e.g. From 1st gear: Roar~ (silence) [switch gear] Roar~ (repeat)
The O.305s has a non-electronic gearbox W3D 080R
The O.405s were the ones to get an electronic gearbox W3E 110/2.2R
Just get a Merc O.405 driver to use kickdown and you will get the same thing.
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Originally posted by Scania:
Just get a Merc O.405 driver to use kickdown and you will get the same thing.
Ah but the sounds of the gearbox is more clearly heard with an NAC bus. =D -
I notice that the plug doors of some Volvo B10TL's exit plug doors are not in very good condition. I boarded SBS9813M today and when it was time for the exit plug doors to open, the right door opened first and the left door opened a second later. I believe plug doors are to open and close together. When the doors of SBS9813M was closing, at least both doors closed together. On a side note, the doors closing chime for SBS9813M was of a different pitch from SBS9820S but it still sounded nice.
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Originally posted by I miss old annoucements:
I notice that the plug doors of some Volvo B10TL's exit plug doors are not in very good condition. I boarded SBS9813M today and when it was time for the exit plug doors to open, the right door opened first and the left door opened a second later. I believe plug doors are to open and close together. When the doors of SBS9813M was closing, at least both doors closed together. On a side note, the doors closing chime for SBS9813M was of a different pitch from SBS9820S but it still sounded nice.
Seriously, they cant be closing together. If they close together, something is very wrong. No matter how it is close of open, there will be a lag time. It only depends on how long the lag time is for the other side of the door to respond.The next time u take a Habit / Volgren bendy / Trident / VSO / B10BLE / B9TL / L94UB / K230s. Take a closer look.