SBST MAN 18.240 HOCL-NL-R (A69 chassis type) demonstrator
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Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
Eh wait wait. Guys, do you think the bus is low floor or low entry? MAN does produce low floor buses.
Low floor - Stepless from the front all the way till the back of bus.
Low entry - Steps after rear exit, just like K230s.
you raise a good point. the spces for the MAN 18.240 states its a high floor bus chassis. not low entry WAB bus. however given LTA regulations, one must assume its a modified 18.240 chassis which can take wheelchair passengers?
ZYX
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
this one duscussion go nowhere. cause the bumper level is much higher than scania K230UB. furthermore the configuration of the engine parts and dash of a MAn bus is simialir to a merc. the folks who maintain mercs will have an easier time figuring out this new creature.
the MAN shd go AMKDEP or SLBP where there are mercs ard.
as a correction, shouldn't the Dsicovery bay hong Kong MANs be MAN 18.270. pls note 18.270 is a 2008 updated model and NL273 is an older model using diff specs of engines altogether.
my opinions..shrugz
ZYX- certified MAN kee seow enthuse
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Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
I checked MAN's website for technical details. However the site is full of details which can make a newcomer confused. Anyway, the engine of the bus produces 240Bhp and a max of 945Nm(compared to 1050Nm in K230s) and is a 7 litre engine. Lets see how this bus gonna handle high loads.
i also anlaysed the specs leow. heres what i gathered with SBS99816 helping me understand the chim stuffs
review: voith 854.5?? (use this?)
gearbox = Voith 854.5 (ignoringthe Diwa branding since pretty much every voith gearbox is the Diwa brand anyways)anyhow 854.5. says in the specs is some new revolutionary gearbox designs n concepts. very intresting two way fluid thrust for accleration. think most gearbox is a one way thrust of fluids.
the reatarding pcoess sounds new..dunno what "kick back" shall be, is it the same process as when enviro 500 (dennis trident osos\)with voiths do when idle...suddenly engine rev a bits?. Conerting kinetic energy to heat energy...uhhhhh...expect hot rear rides...?
very new gearbox i figure. must be new 2008 model kind .. means new sounds of gearbox from this guy. doubt there will be voith whsitles?
_voith wbesite
review: 18.240 chassis review
we scoot over to have a looky at some MAN 18.240 specs. we chose to view 18.240HOCL-NL figuring its prob that thing.
4 rear shock absorbers for bus. wah comfy ride. i normally hear of two shcok absorber pads. this one got 4.
the engines figures have been analysed.. indeed a 6.8 litre engine. max output is 240HP (i figure u folks wd know that number is reflected in the model code by now) . 18 tonne veh. close counterpart to b7RLE. from the figures i think ze MAN might lose a bit in acc to B7RLE Mk III EURO IV.. Coupled with the new new (2008 model gearbox worh) Voith gearbox, i dunno how good the acc power wd be frankly.
one thing for sure, the bumper level from road level is a bit higher than k230UB. i think is lower than B7RLE tho.
veh width seems tad thin. cd be quite a sqeeze inside.
SBS9816 drew my attention to the in-bus diagnostics of the bus agai new generation chim gadgets figure out whats wrong with he bus. interestingly enough there is one that figures out if the brake pads r worn.\
what makes a good MAN bbus?:
have turbo whsitle, have voith whsitle. have hub reduction and the typcial MAn air pressure release sounds.
look like Lion's Citybus comes with tubro so good will have turbo whsitle.
bus already said to be with Voith may expect voith whistle
bus has hub reduction yes. but new revolutionary hub reduction reducing sound technology. wah rau. softer hubs.
Air pressure release uh? i dunno if this kind of new MAn engine makes thhat sound.
heeey check out the front of the Gemilang Lion's City bodywork (see tamago pix). its a close resemblance to a pure bred MAN Lion's City bus as can be found in germany. very chio front. very enthusing (u can imagine me drooling at tamago pic).. pity the side windows are not full length glass. if not will super reemble a MAn lion's City bus.=> we have here a goooood MAN bus.
recommedation: (a preview?)
go sit causeway link MAN 18.310 coach on CW2. that one the engine sound very sui with hubs, voith n turbo whsitles. i guess our dear MAN 18.240 wd pretty much sound like that cuasway link one
NL243 is not 18.240 is not lion's city:just to inform: NL243 is not equal to 18.240. take a close look at the engine numbers u will know. Also note that lion's City (the full integrated product line from MAn themselves) do not have 240HP chassis lines so its not a Lion's City .
Note: The transperth folks have their TP3001 the MAN NG313 (CNG fuel WAB bendybus) which is rather close to a MAN Lion's City GL bus. So that case ca sort of say iz like Lion's City.
conclusions:
all in all epxectations are expectations, u'd have to ride the bus itself to see for urself. For me i expect a comfortabble and engine that is pleasing to ears ride. hopefully same engine ptiching as the CW2 MAns lor.
ZYX
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Originally posted by Oceane:
I believe the guys at AMDEP can handle it since they've toyed around with 81S before.81S AMKDEP new new?
ZYX
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
81S AMKDEP new new?
ZYX
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
Maybe in the past SLBP do not really maintain well, after the major repair and refurbish during the IMF period. They are in tip-top condition. They do not vibrate seriously like which most of the DM 3500 does. Nt even like another depot which haven got most of their Strider/DM3500 seat covers changedaiyer. he from the zoo and farm de. jus ignore him. he will cluck here and dere SLBP the best. like those animal eat anything shit anywhere and make noise anyhow only. even when many SLBP BCs say, they drive other depot bus better than drive SLBP bus. 174 BC say 8030 and 8033 lan diao. he is mental keesiaos that cant admit xian shi. what is true is true. even if i stay in SLBP area, i will admit the fact SLBP has very poor maintenance capabilities. alot of SLBP 51 and 143 B9TLs vibrate le. 7485 and 7489 still in tip top condition.
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
SLBP flaws? but this is the best depot leh.
aiyer. he from the zoo and farm de. jus ignore him. he will cluck here and dere SLBP the best. like those animal eat anything shit anywhere and make noise anyhow only. even when many SLBP BCs say, they drive other depot bus better than drive SLBP bus. 174 BC say 8030 and 8033 lan diao. he is mental keesiaos that cant admit xian shi. what is true is true. even if i stay in SLBP area, i will admit the fact SLBP has very poor maintenance capabilities. alot of SLBP 51 and 143 B9TLs vibrate le. 7485 and 7489 still in tip top condition.
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Originally posted by Oceane:
No. No. No.To tell the truth, I've been taking the DM3500s on 52 that cameo frequently. Now even got perm. They vibrate like nobody's business. Even the BC who drove 2702X last week when I hopped on it claimed that the bus was very lousy and was like a massaging machine. Why so? Everytime the bus comes to rest the engine vibrates.
Please stop all these non-sensical claims to glorify SLBP. Enough is enough. We all have had experience. Please don't disclaim other's evidence and proclaim yours as superior. Everyone is equal here.
Accept the facts. Don't deny everything.
No No, I chartered this bus before and want this bus! It does nt had the vibrate feeling. Whereas when I take the Nokia buses (SBS 2812L), woww vibrate until dunno like wat. Still got the screeching sound. U guys all staying in the "East District" of course would say whatever u like but when this few months I had transferred to AMK to work and tried most of the buses there and was not as good as wat u all said. -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
No No, I chartered this bus before and want this bus! It does nt had the vibrate feeling. Whereas when I take the Nokia buses (SBS 2812L), woww vibrate until dunno like wat. Still got the screeching sound. U guys all staying in the "East District" of course would say whatever u like but when this few months I had transferred to AMK to work and tried most of the buses there and was not as good as wat u all said.i took 2812 jus now. its fixed le. shows AMDEP's efficiency
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Originally posted by SBS9888Y:
i took 2812 jus now. its fixed le. shows AMDEP's efficiency
Hahaah, any prove? Have the engine in high-mode? -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
Hahaah, any prove? Have the engine in high-mode?speed fine. idle fine. moving off and braking fine. engine quiet. come find me and i show you, if you jus wanna chicken out, pls keep your mouth closed. that would be all.
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Originally posted by SBS9888Y:
speed fine. idle fine. moving off and braking fine. engine quiet. come find me and i show you, if you jus wanna chicken out, pls keep your mouth closed. that would be all.
bullshit. -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
bullshit.c'mon...r e both of u so childish juz to fight over one thing?
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
bullshit.
he bullshit? den ur cowdung...absurd sia u...ppl told u da truth yet u dun believe...itz lyke wadz da point of telling u...mite as well let u perish...
gif up lah...itz nt lyke e end of da world if u surrender...if u continues aft these...u r really nt worth being look upon as an adult...u will juz b an ayam who lives lyke an autistic one...no life at all...
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
bullshit.
come and find me. if not shut your mouth. -
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
No No, I chartered this bus before and want this bus! It does nt had the vibrate feeling. Whereas when I take the Nokia buses (SBS 2812L), woww vibrate until dunno like wat. Still got the screeching sound. U guys all staying in the "East District" of course would say whatever u like but when this few months I had transferred to AMK to work and tried most of the buses there and was not as good as wat u all said.
No. No. No.You took it once.
I took it countless times.
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OK OK OK back to topic zzzzzz
any ways i hope SBST will order this MAN bus if not like last time the MAN 16.240 demo bus
.So when will it come out yet?i only 10 cannot go out expecially west distinct area and parents like dun wan me to be bus fan zzz... -
Originally posted by SBS8138K:
OK OK OK back to topic zzzzzz
any ways i hope SBST will order this MAN bus if not like last time the MAN 16.240 demo bus
.So when will it come out yet?i only 10 cannot go out expecially west distinct area and parents like dun wan me to be bus fan zzz...
I agree.Bus will most probably be out in 1 month's time... and demo usually takes 1 year.
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Originally posted by SBS8138K:
OK OK OK back to topic zzzzzz
any ways i hope SBST will order this MAN bus if not like last time the MAN 16.240 demo bus
.So when will it come out yet?i only 10 cannot go out expecially west distinct area and parents like dun wan me to be bus fan zzz...
Woah.....you're young! -
Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
Woah.....you're young!
I know you're 16... so no need to say people young.xD
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Originally posted by Oceane:
I know you're 16... so no need to say people young.xD
I wish I was 16 again.
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SBS9888Y and chickenlittle2:
Can't you guys just STOP bickering in these threads?! This is always an eye sore! Can both of you just GIVE IN and that's that?!Maggots of the forum. Once one, always one!
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
I wish I was 16 again.
moi wish moi was 16.. =(then again, moi dunch wish moi ish 16..
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Originally posted by SBS7484P:
moi wish moi was 16.. =(then again, moi dunch wish moi ish 16..
Don't worry......it will come.Anyway looking at the MAN specs, seems like the trend is now towards smaller capacity engines as far as city buses are concerned.