Which bus service should be WAB?
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Since the first day that 147 becomes WAB in around Sept 2006 when I first took a B9TL bus serving 147, I have not seen a wheelchair-bound personnel onboard on service 147 till now. That makes me ponder the number of wheelchair-bound people taking buses as their main form of transport.
In addition, seeing WAB buses packed daily during peak hours make me wonder again whether wheelchair-bound can board onto a WAB bus to get to their destination. 147 for example is normally packed from 0730 hrs to around 0830 hrs, during noontime from Hougang to Clementi. That means that it is typical for a wheelchair-bound personnel to wait for a long time for a WAB bus to arrive. This will instead deter them from taking buses even though there are facilities available to transport the disabled.
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wonder when will svc 16 and 175 get theirs.
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Originally posted by tanjun:
Since the first day that 147 becomes WAB in around Sept 2006 when I first took a B9TL bus serving 147, I have not seen a wheelchair-bound personnel onboard on service 147 till now. That makes me ponder the number of wheelchair-bound people taking buses as their main form of transport.
In addition, seeing WAB buses packed daily during peak hours make me wonder again whether wheelchair-bound can board onto a WAB bus to get to their destination. 147 for example is normally packed from 0730 hrs to around 0830 hrs, during noontime from Hougang to Clementi. That means that it is typical for a wheelchair-bound personnel to wait for a long time for a WAB bus to arrive. This will instead deter them from taking buses even though there are facilities available to transport the disabled.
The no. of PIWs on 147 is quite healthy. Can see 1 PIW every now and then.
The problem is, PIWs usually avoid taking the bus during the Peak hour. If you've been taking 147 during peak hour all these while, it is likely that you wont be able to see. try taking off-peak and u might see a few.
p.s. I know theres 1 PIW who always take from Hougang Int and the other will always board along Bendemeer Rd.
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Originally posted by shentonn:
wonder when will svc 16 and 175 get theirs.
Until now only 5 services that ply Orchard Road uses K230UBs (36, 64, 105, 123 & 174).
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wat bus will 16 use after the b10m r phased out?
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King Long volgren WAB if there is lol
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Originally posted by bus555:
King Long volgren WAB if there is lol
What do you mean by a King Long Volgren ?
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I think 232 and 238 should be WAB. Either 88 or 163 too because of the total extreme lack of WABs on Toa Payoh, there only being 143.
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197 is the best choice, given the route that it goes to...
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I hope Service 30 become WAB with lots of B9TLs, but no KUB please. The ideal fleet would be half LO3x and half B9TL
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Originally posted by SBS2695H:
I hope Service 30 become WAB with lots of B9TLs, but no KUB please. The ideal fleet would be half LO3x and half B9TL
.I hope there is Zero B9 on 147...
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Service 197This service passes by Alexandra Hospital, National University Hospital, Raffles Hospital and Singapore General Hospital.Service 166This service passes by Kandang Kerbau Women's and Childrens Hospital, Mount Alvernia Hospital, Ren Ci Hospital (Thomson), Singapore General Hospital and Tan Tock Seng Hospital.Service 93This service passes by Adam Rd Hospital, Alexandra Hospital and Mount Alvernia Hospital.Service 157This service passes by Adam Rd Hospital, Mount Alvernia Hospital and St. Luke Hospital for the Elderly.Service 145This service passes by HMI Balestier Hospital, Kwong Wai Shiu Hospital, Raffles Hospital and Ren Ci Hospital (Thomson).Service 66This service passes by Kandang Kerbau Women's and Children's Hospital, Kwong Wai Shiu Hospital and St. Luke Hospital for the Elderly.Service 130This service passes by HMI Balestier Hospital, Kwong Wai Shiu Hospital, Mount Alvernia Hospital, Raffles Hospital and Ren Ci Hospital (Thomson).Service 33This service passes by East Shore Hospital, Raffles Hospital and Singapore General Hospital.And Many More.......
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The purpose of WABs is not just to link PIW to hospitals, but as alternative transportation around Singapore.
So like I've mentioned before, all services should go WAB, not services that we think "should be WAB" services.
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Being wheelchair-bound does not mean they spend their whole day visiting hospitals!
There needs to be an established and inter-connected network of WAB routes in Singapore before we can see them being utilised in a big way. A reasonable first step would be to make all feeder bus services WAB so as to expand the reach of the rail system which has already been made wheelchair-accessible.
May I also emphasise that services that have a lot of old folk =/= services that should get WAB. In a recent report by Shin Min, most old folk interviewed actually detest the new WAB designs as it meant they needed to climb steps while the bus is in motion so as to get a seat, thereby increasing the risk of falls and injuries. As a result many of them would rather stand along the way.
Unless anyone of us forumers are also wheelchair users, we should not impose our opinions on them for they should be allowed to speak up for themselves on which services should be provided to benefit them best.
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Feeders should be WAB.
My ideal is to serve PIWs around the neighbourhood.
So the feeders with existing WAB buses should be WAB services.
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Originally posted by sv966:
Being wheelchair-bound does not mean they spend their whole day visiting hospitals!
There needs to be an established and inter-connected network of WAB routes in Singapore before we can see them being utilised in a big way. A reasonable first step would be to make all feeder bus services WAB so as to expand the reach of the rail system which has already been made wheelchair-accessible.
May I also emphasise that services that have a lot of old folk =/= services that should get WAB. In a recent report by Shin Min, most old folk interviewed actually detest the new WAB designs as it meant they needed to climb steps while the bus is in motion so as to get a seat, thereby increasing the risk of falls and injuries. As a result many of them would rather stand along the way.
Unless anyone of us forumers are also wheelchair users, we should not impose our opinions on them for they should be allowed to speak up for themselves on which services should be provided to benefit them best.
Originally posted by off_service:
The purpose of WABs is not just to link PIW to hospitals, but as alternative transportation around Singapore.So like I've mentioned before, all services should go WAB, not services that we think "should be WAB" services.
Thats true, but its a matter of which services should get them FIRST. I, too, agree that all services should become WAB but i believe that feeders and those passing by major hospitals should get them first. -
It is a matter of time bef all SG buses become WAB
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Originally posted by shentonn:
wonder when will svc 16 and 175 get theirs.
16 i think cannot, it cannot use DD and KUB because of height restriction at medarva bridge
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
16 i think cannot, it cannot use DD and KUB because of height restriction at medarva bridge
its merdeka bridge T.T
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I feel that all public bus services should be WAB.Dunno bout Jurong Industrial though
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
16 i think cannot, it cannot use DD and KUB because of height restriction at merdeka bridge
LOL!! oh okay, i didnt know that KUB is much taller than normal single decks.. O.O woo.. then 16 would be one of the few services which wont get kub afterall. that's sad -
Originally posted by musli_bar:
its merdeka bridge T.T
thanks
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Originally posted by shentonn:
LOL!! oh okay, i didnt know that KUB is much taller than normal single decks.. O.O woo.. then 16 would be one of the few services which wont get kub afterall. that's sadThis was whot i heard about from some sources, at first S16 is gonna get KUB when BNDEP has KUB, but later the bridge make the deployment failed
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Looks like service 86 going to be soon
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Originally posted by TIB1018B:
Looks like service 86 going to be soon
I want to ORD already then 86 going to get KUB....
