Route Suggestions (Part 2)

• AJQZC

  21 Sep 08, 16:03

  The good thing about merging services is that it can save service numbers and trouble just to transfer buses. The bad thing, on the other hand, may cause the routes to be too long and drivers may not be accustomed.

  Just a tip: if you want to merge feeder services into trunk services, do take note of how you manage the fare as well.

• AJQZC

  21 Sep 08, 16:57

  Suggested service mergers:

  1. 18 & 60
  2. 26 & 73
  3. 37 & 69
  4. 52 & 99
  5. 78 & 284
  6. 83 & 87
  7. 96 & 99
  8. 98 & 333
  9. 99 & 242
  10. 101 & 161
  11. 113 & 325?
  12. 181 & 240
  13. 181 & 333
• jayh272416

  21 Sep 08, 21:44

  941 and 945? Become intratown 943

• Ajen

  21 Sep 08, 22:26

  SMRT Trunk 949 - Bukit Batok Int to Bukit Batok Rd (loop)

  SMRT Trunk 949A - Bukit Batok Int to Bukit Batok Int via Bukit Batok Rd (loop)

  (Similar Style of 113 route)

  Merger of 941 & 947

  • Bukit Batok Central
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 3
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 6
  • Bukit Batok St 11
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 3
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 8
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 6
  • Bukit Batok Ave 1 (turn left)
  • Bukit Batok Central
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 2
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 4
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 7
  • Bukit Batok Rd
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 2 (back to return route)
  • Bukit Batok Central
  • Bukit Batok Int
• ftjj0298

  22 Sep 08, 13:30

  Merger of 99 and 111

  Service 111
  Marina Ctr Term to Soon Lee Bus Park
  
  Marina Ctr Term

  Raffles Ave
  Stamford Rd
  Orchard Rd
  Penang Rd
  Somerset Rd
  Grange Rd
  Orchard Blvd
  Grange Rd
  Tanglin Rd
  Alexandra Rd
  Commonwealth Ave
  Commonwealth Ave West
  Boon Lay Way
  Jurong Town Hall Rd
  Jurong East Ave 1
  Jurong West Ave 1
  Corporation Rd
  Boon Lay Dr
  Boon Lay Pl
  Boon Lay Ave
  Jalan Boon Lay
  Jurong West Ave 4
  Jurong West St 72
  Jurong West Ave 5
  Pioneer Rd North
  Jurong West St 91
  Jurong West St 93
  Upper Jurong Rd
  Pioneer Rd North
  Soon Lee Bus Park

  111M - Marina Ctr Term to Ghim Moh Term

  Marina Ctr Term

  Raffles Ave
  Stamford Rd
  Orchard Rd
  Penang Rd
  Somerset Rd
  Grange Rd
  Orchard Blvd
  Grange Rd
  Tanglin Rd
  Alexandra Rd
  Commonwealth Ave
  Ghim Moh Rd
  Ghim Moh Term
  

  Service 502 will be withdrawn.
• SBS8033D

  22 Sep 08, 14:47

  then better not.this is quite a waste of time when you urge 111 and 99 BCs to drive long routes when the service some more need to turn in and out.

  AND keep 502 there.502 serving marina ctr has a purpose.

  if you want,merge 36 and 111.and put a lot of kubs.

   

• AJQZC

  22 Sep 08, 18:42

  On weekday mornings, espescially around 6.30am-7am, buses serving on route 66 gets especially crowded--from Bukit Batok all the way to Dunearn Road, near Hwa Chong JC (due to the number of schools there). Double deckers cannot serve due to low bridges along the later part of Dunearn Road (or is it?)

  Is it possible to shorten 66B to Hwa Chong JC, run them during the school rush period and allow double deckers on them? This would also ease the student demand for services 157 and 174--which are also packed like sardines during the school rush period even though they are already using double deckers.

• Ajen

  23 Sep 08, 15:20

  Enhancement of Service 985

  985C - Choa Chu Kang Int - East Coast Rd(loop)

  from Lorong 1 Geylang

  • Sims Ave
  • Jalan Eunos
  • Still Rd
  • Still Rd South
  • Marine Parade Rd
  • Amber Rd
  • Mountbatten Rd
  • East Coast Rd
  • Still Rd
  • Changi Rd
  • Geylang Rd
  • Lorong 1 Geylang Terminal (Short Break)
  • 985 Route

  operate on Sunday & Public Holiday

• SBS2695H

  23 Sep 08, 16:12

  Suggested Merger of Service 187 and Service 858:

  Boon Lay Temp Int
  Boon Lay Way
  Jurong West St 51
  Jurong West Ave 1
  Jurong East Ave 1
  Jurong East Central
  Bt Batok Ave 1
  Bt Batok Central
  Bt Batok West Ave 2
  Bt Batok West Ave 4
  Bt Batok West Ave 7
  Bt Batok West Ave 5
  Bt Batok Rd
  Choa Chu Kang Road
  Bt Panjang Rd
  BKE
  Woodlands Ave 3
  Woodlands Ave 5
  Woodlands Ave 7
  Woodlands Ave 4
  Woodlands Ave 9
  Gambas Ave
  Sembawang Rd
  Yishun Ave 5
  Yishun Ave 2
  Lentor Ave
  SLE
  TPE
  Jln Kayu
  TPE
  PIE
  ECP
  Airport Boulevard
  Changi Airport PTB 3
  Changi Airport PTB 1
  Changi Airport PTB 2

  With the longer route now, the "jump bus" system will be introduced, like the system practised on Servicd 036.

• jayh272416

  23 Sep 08, 20:19

  Originally posted by SBS2695H:

  Suggested Merger of Service 187 and Service 858:

  Boon Lay Temp Int
  Boon Lay Way
  Jurong West St 51
  Jurong West Ave 1
  Jurong East Ave 1
  Jurong East Central
  Bt Batok Ave 1
  Bt Batok Central
  Bt Batok West Ave 2
  Bt Batok West Ave 4
  Bt Batok West Ave 7
  Bt Batok West Ave 5
  Bt Batok Rd
  Choa Chu Kang Road
  Bt Panjang Rd
  BKE
  Woodlands Ave 3
  Woodlands Ave 5
  Woodlands Ave 7
  Woodlands Ave 4
  Woodlands Ave 9
  Gambas Ave
  Sembawang Rd
  Yishun Ave 5
  Yishun Ave 2
  Lentor Ave
  SLE
  TPE
  Jln Kayu
  TPE
  PIE
  ECP
  Airport Boulevard
  Changi Airport PTB 3
  Changi Airport PTB 1
  Changi Airport PTB 2

  With the longer route now, the "jump bus" system will be introduced, like the system practised on Servicd 036.

  
  I think cannot, BNL is SBST territory.

  However merger of 925 and 858 might work. If not then 925 + 969, CCK to Tampines.

   

  Suggest: When bartley rd east opens...

  service 94 Eunos to Changi Village

  (Current 94 route)
  Bartley Rd East
  Tampines Ave 10
  Tampines Ave 3
  Tampines Ave 4
  Tampines Ave 7
  Loyang Ave
  Changi Village Rd

• chikopek

  23 Sep 08, 21:16

  Originally posted by SBS2695H:

  Suggested Merger of Service 187 and Service 858:

  Boon Lay Temp Int
  Boon Lay Way
  Jurong West St 51
  Jurong West Ave 1
  Jurong East Ave 1
  Jurong East Central
  Bt Batok Ave 1
  Bt Batok Central
  Bt Batok West Ave 2
  Bt Batok West Ave 4
  Bt Batok West Ave 7
  Bt Batok West Ave 5
  Bt Batok Rd
  Choa Chu Kang Road
  Bt Panjang Rd
  BKE
  Woodlands Ave 3
  Woodlands Ave 5
  Woodlands Ave 7
  Woodlands Ave 4
  Woodlands Ave 9
  Gambas Ave
  Sembawang Rd
  Yishun Ave 5
  Yishun Ave 2
  Lentor Ave
  SLE
  TPE
  Jln Kayu
  TPE
  PIE
  ECP
  Airport Boulevard
  Changi Airport PTB 3
  Changi Airport PTB 1
  Changi Airport PTB 2

  With the longer route now, the "jump bus" system will be introduced, like the system practised on Servicd 036.

  Crazy..... Although a large part of the route is express sector, the total distance is too long for even a 2 direction service never to say a loop service. (Around 135 fare stages in total!)

• Rk 2010

  23 Sep 08, 21:25

  Merging of services 187 and 858?? Can't be done man. too long of a distance will cause commuters to wait for a long time to reach their destination. So this merger isnt that advisable. Besides, who would want to take a svc with many stops?

• eX.A.K.R.

  23 Sep 08, 21:25

  Originally posted by jayh272416:

  
  I think cannot, BNL is SBST territory.

  However merger of 925 and 858 might work. If not then 925 + 969, CCK to Tampines.

  Any of these mergers involving route 858 could make it's route insanely long; don't forget that it's extension into Sembawang was denied by the air-brained people at the Public Transport Council (despite it being a short detour which could have enhanced connectivity for Sembawang residents by A LOT) with the reason citied as that it will make the route too long; any sort of merger of route 858 with any other bus route in Woodlands that runs west is suicide.

  I still say: push for that Sembawang detour until they relent. That detour wasn't too long.

• Rk 2010

  23 Sep 08, 21:32

  Originally posted by SBS2695H:

  Suggested Merger of Service 187 and Service 858:

  Boon Lay Temp Int
  Boon Lay Way
  Jurong West St 51
  Jurong West Ave 1
  Jurong East Ave 1
  Jurong East Central
  Bt Batok Ave 1
  Bt Batok Central
  Bt Batok West Ave 2
  Bt Batok West Ave 4
  Bt Batok West Ave 7
  Bt Batok West Ave 5
  Bt Batok Rd
  Choa Chu Kang Road
  Bt Panjang Rd
  BKE
  Woodlands Ave 3
  Woodlands Ave 5
  Woodlands Ave 7
  Woodlands Ave 4
  Woodlands Ave 9
  Gambas Ave
  Sembawang Rd
  Yishun Ave 5
  Yishun Ave 2
  Lentor Ave
  SLE
  TPE
  Jln Kayu
  TPE
  PIE
  ECP
  Airport Boulevard
  Changi Airport PTB 3
  Changi Airport PTB 1
  Changi Airport PTB 2

  With the longer route now, the "jump bus" system will be introduced, like the system practised on Servicd 036.

  
  It is advisable for you to go through the routes through the street directory. And do up a sensible route please!!

• SBS9888Y

  23 Sep 08, 22:12

  Originally posted by SBS2695H:

  Suggested Merger of Service 187 and Service 858:

  Boon Lay Temp Int
  Boon Lay Way
  Jurong West St 51
  Jurong West Ave 1
  Jurong East Ave 1
  Jurong East Central
  Bt Batok Ave 1
  Bt Batok Central
  Bt Batok West Ave 2
  Bt Batok West Ave 4
  Bt Batok West Ave 7
  Bt Batok West Ave 5
  Bt Batok Rd
  Choa Chu Kang Road
  Bt Panjang Rd
  BKE
  Woodlands Ave 3
  Woodlands Ave 5
  Woodlands Ave 7
  Woodlands Ave 4
  Woodlands Ave 9
  Gambas Ave
  Sembawang Rd
  Yishun Ave 5
  Yishun Ave 2
  Lentor Ave
  SLE
  TPE
  Jln Kayu
  TPE
  PIE
  ECP
  Airport Boulevard
  Changi Airport PTB 3
  Changi Airport PTB 1
  Changi Airport PTB 2

  With the longer route now, the "jump bus" system will be introduced, like the system practised on Servicd 036.

  i dare you to merge 30 and 178. and den compare the journey time with 168.

• eX.A.K.R.

  23 Sep 08, 22:22

  Originally posted by SBS9888Y:

  i dare you to merge 30 and 178. and den compare the journey time with 168.

  30 + 178 = more insane than route 182 in the year 1972.

  A bus captain driving this route will only need to do at most six trips a day (one trip from Bedok to Woodlands and vice-versa) for a complete day's duty, and this is assuming operating hours from around 5 or 6 AM to 12 midnight or 1 AM.

  UBC No. 182 (Yellow) — Upp. Bukit Timah Rd (Near Ewart Circus) - Benoi Road (Jurong Industrial Estate) 

  VIA
  Upp Bukit Timah Rd, Dunearn Rd, Stevens Rd, Scotts Rd, Orchard Rd, Clemenceau Ave, Pulo Saigon Rd, Canal Rd, Upp Pickering St, South Bridge Rd, Neil Rd, New Bridge Rd, Outram Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Alexandra Rd, Ayer Rajah Rd, Upp Ayer Rajah Rd, Jln Ahmad Ibrahim, Corporation Rd, Jln Tukang, Quality Rd, International Rd, Jln Boon Lay, Jln Ahmad Ibrahim, Jln Besi, Liu Fang Rd, Jln Besi Baja, Jln Besi and Benoi Rd, near Singapore Shipbuilding Engineering Co. Ltd.
  
  RETURN
  Benoi Rd, Jln Besi, Jln Besi Baja, Liu Fang Rd, Jln Besi, Jln Ahmad Ibrahim, Jln Boon Lay, International Rd, Quality Rd, Jln Tukang, Corporation Rd, Jln Ahmad Ibrahim, Upp Ayer Rajah Rd, Ayer Rajah Rd, Alexandra Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Outram Rd, New Bridge Rd (2nd Carriage Way), Havelock Rd, Pulo Saigon Rd, Clemenceau Ave, River Valley Rd, Tank Rd, Clemenceau Ave, Penang Rd, Somerset Rd, Orchard Rd, Scotts Rd, Stevens Rd, Bukit Timah Rd, Upp Bukit Timah Rd.

  

• catinthehat

  23 Sep 08, 23:25

  Merge 189 with 95 ( see who will give up, SBS or SMRT) 

  Merge 130 with 138 - ZooDirect for tourists in the city, and still keeping the sgporeans to make the route profitable.

  Merge 163 with 142. 

  Extend 111 to clementi via clementi West

   

   

   

   

   

• SBS2695H

  23 Sep 08, 23:31

  Originally posted by catinthehat:

  Merge 189 with 95 ( see who will give up, SBS or SMRT) 

  Merge 130 with 138 - ZooDirect for tourists in the city, and still keeping the sgporeans to make the route profitable.

  Merge 163 with 142. 

  Extend 111 to clementi via clementi West

   

   

   

   

   

  
  Why not merge Service 024 with Service 138? Zoo Direct from Changi Airport.

• eX.A.K.R.

  24 Sep 08, 00:20

  You want crazy mergers, I will give you one crazy merger I just thought up:

  Routes 858 + 178 + 30 + 9

  Changi Airport > Woodlands > Boon Lay > Bedok > Changi Village

  Bus captains driving this route can give up all hopes of meals, rest, and - most importantly - toilet breaks  .

• Scania

  24 Sep 08, 00:24

  Why have long routes when short or super express routes should be the way to go?

• Simple_boi

  24 Sep 08, 01:10

  Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:

  You want crazy mergers, I will give you one crazy merger I just thought up:

  Routes 858 + 178 + 30 + 9

  Changi Airport > Woodlands > Boon Lay > Bedok > Changi Village

  Bus captains driving this route can give up all hopes of meals, rest, and - most importantly - toilet breaks  .

  
  So near yet so far. haha

• ngjy22

  24 Sep 08, 01:18

  Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:

  You want crazy mergers, I will give you one crazy merger I just thought up:

  Routes 858 + 178 + 30 + 9

  Changi Airport > Woodlands > Boon Lay > Bedok > Changi Village

  Bus captains driving this route can give up all hopes of meals, rest, and - most importantly - toilet breaks  .

  
  1 shift only drive that 1 trip [to and from] already tired enough. Such service, S-Shift also about the same as A/P.

  Let's just roughly calculate by hours.

  858 > 1 hour
  178 > 1 hour
  30 > 2 hours
  9 > 1 hour
  5 hours half trip

• Ajen

  24 Sep 08, 02:19

  SBST 53M

  Bishan - Hougang St 21

   

• AEW5001

  24 Sep 08, 10:59

  forget e mergers pls! Think for e passengers n BCs! Anyway, my suggestion that i thought:

   

  On weekdays, 0700 to 1000, CT8 and CT18 upon exiting CTE, will head to Shenton Way Ter. via Shenton Way instead of New Bridge Rd.

  Routes bef CTE remains unchanged and these svcs will call upon all stops along Shenton Way. It is a 1-way svc n passengers will be charged e original fares based on current CT routes. Feq: 20-30 mins

• SBS9888Y

  24 Sep 08, 12:43

  short routes are there to cater the pax. due to certain portions of route requiring a certain bulk of pax. it is not ideal for merging.

  there is need for more short routes rather than merging short routes to have more long routes.

  bc prefer shorter routes too. but not too short (e.g 284 and 354) hahah.