Route Suggestions (Part 2)

• Fryderyk HPH

  15 Nov 08, 08:17

  SMRT Sv. 884

   

  Choa Chu Kang Int -> Punggol Int

   

  • Choa Chu Kang Loop[Choa Chu Kang Int]
  • Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
  • Choa Chu Kang Ave 3
  • Choa Chu Kang Way
  • Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
  • Teck Whye Ave
  • Choa Chu Kang Road
  • Upper Bukit Timah Road
  • Petir Road
  • Gangsa Road
  • Bukit Panjang Road
  • Express(BKE, PIE, Lornie Road)
  • Upper Thomson Road
  • Thomson Road
  • Sin Ming Ave
  • Bishan St 22
  • Bishan Road
  • Ang Mo Kio Ave 8
  • Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
  • Express(CTE, TPE)
  • Punggol Road
  • Punggol Field
  • Punggol East
  • Punggol Central
  • Punggol Place[Punggol Int]

• tanjun

  15 Nov 08, 08:45

  Originally posted by Ajen:

  SBST 47

  Punggol Int - Tomlinson Rd (loop) via

  • Punggol Int
  • Punggol Pl
  • Punggol Dr
  • Edgedale Plains
  • Punggol Ctrl
  • Punggol East
  • Sengkang East Dr
  • Sengkang East Way
  • Sengkang East Rd
  • TPE
  • KPE
  • ECP
  • Temasek Blvd
  • Temasek Ave
  • Raffles Ave
  • Stamford Rd
  • Penang Rd
  • Somerset Rd
  • Grange Rd/Orchard Link
  • Orchard Turn
  • Tomlinson Rd
  • Tanglin Rd
  • Orchard Rd
  • Bras Basah Rd
  • Raffles Blvd
  • Republic Blvd
  • ECP
  • KPE
  • TPE
  • Sengkang East Rd
  • Sengkang East Way
  • Sengkang East Dr
  • Punggol East
  • Punggol Ctrl
  • Edgedale Plains
  • Punggol Dr
  • Punggol Pl
  • Punggol Int

  *Fast connection between North East & Downtown Area

   

  
  67 stages in total since it is a loop service. 15 non express sectors.

   

  This service seems like Cityshopper 581 but it covers the Sengkang areas too.

  For Punggol, alternatively, if there is no service 47, they can utilise the LRT and MRT system to get to town quickly too.

• Fryderyk HPH

  15 Nov 08, 09:15

  Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:

  SBST Sv. 41

   

  Eunos Int - Tampines Ave 5(Loop)

   

  • Eunos Int
  • Sims Ave
  • Jln Eunos
  • Express(PIE)
  • Bedok North Road
  • Bedok Reservoir Road
  • Tampines Ave 1
  • Tampines Ave 8
  • Tampines Ave 3
  • Tampines Ave 4
  • Limited Express(Tampines Ave 7, Tampines Ave 9)
  • Tampines St 72(New Bus Stop)
  • Tampines St 71
  • Tampines Ave 5
  • Tampines Ave 4
  • Tampines Ave 3
  • Tampines Ave 8
  • Tampines Ave 1
  • Bedok Reservoir Road
  • Bedok North Road
  • Express(PIE)
  • Jln Eunos
  • Changi Road
  • Jln Turi
  • Eunos Int

   Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:

  SMRT Sv. 883

   

  Sembawang Int -> Punggol Int

  • Sembawang Vista[Sembawang Int]
    
  • Canberra Link
  • Yishun Ave 2
  • Yishun Ring Road
  • YIshun St 11
  • Yishun Ave 5
  • Yishun RIng Road
  • Yishun Ave 2
  • Express(Lentor Ave, Yio Chu Kang Road)
  • Hougang Ave 9
  • Hougang Ave 4
  • Hougang Ave 10
  • Hougang Ave 6
  • Sengkang Central
  • Sengkang East Ave
  • Sengkang East Dr
  • Punggol East
  • Punggol Field
  • Punggol Road
  • Punggol Central
  • Punggol Place[Punggol Int]

  
  

  
  

  Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:
  

  SMRT Sv. 884

   

  Choa Chu Kang Int -> Punggol Int

   

  • Choa Chu Kang Loop[Choa Chu Kang Int]
  • Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
  • Choa Chu Kang Ave 3
  • Choa Chu Kang Way
  • Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
  • Teck Whye Ave
  • Choa Chu Kang Road
  • Upper Bukit Timah Road
  • Petir Road
  • Gangsa Road
  • Bukit Panjang Road
  • Express(BKE, PIE, Lornie Road)
  • Upper Thomson Road
  • Thomson Road
  • Sin Ming Ave
  • Bishan St 22
  • Bishan Road
  • Ang Mo Kio Ave 8
  • Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
  • Express(CTE, TPE)
  • Punggol Road
  • Punggol Field
  • Punggol East
  • Punggol Central
  • Punggol Place[Punggol Int]

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Comments please

  
  

• tanjun

  15 Nov 08, 09:17

  Originally posted by Ajen:

  SMRT 850

  Yishun Int - Kent Ridge Bus Terminal

  • Yishun Int
  • Yishun Ave 5
  • Yishun Ave 2
  • Yishun Ave 1
  • Mandai Ave
  • Mandai Rd
  • Woodlands Rd
  • KJE
  • Choa Chu Kang Dr
  • Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
  • Choa Chu Kang Ave 3
  • Brickland Rd
  • Bt Batok West Ave 5
  • Bt Batok West Ave 2
  • Bt Batok Rd
  • PIE
  • Clementi Ave 6
  • AYE
  • Clementi Rd
  • Kent Ridge Bus Terminal

  
  38 stages in total.

  Provides a link from Yishun to Choa Chu Kang. However, it goes along Yishun Ave 2 which has an MRT line to provide the link too.

  It seems to be a "faster version" of 188 from Choa Chu Kang except for the part at CCK Ave 3

• Fryderyk HPH

  15 Nov 08, 09:21

  Can someone please comment on my previous three/four posts?

• tanjun

  15 Nov 08, 12:32

  Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:

  SBST Sv. 41

   

  Eunos Int - Tampines Ave 5(Loop)

   

  • Eunos Int
  • Sims Ave
  • Jln Eunos
  • Express(PIE)
  • Bedok North Road
  • Bedok Reservoir Road
  • Tampines Ave 1
  • Tampines Ave 8
  • Tampines Ave 3
  • Tampines Ave 4
  • Limited Express(Tampines Ave 7, Tampines Ave 9)
  • Tampines St 72(New Bus Stop)
  • Tampines St 71
  • Tampines Ave 5
  • Tampines Ave 4
  • Tampines Ave 3
  • Tampines Ave 8
  • Tampines Ave 1
  • Bedok Reservoir Road
  • Bedok North Road
  • Express(PIE)
  • Jln Eunos
  • Changi Road
  • Jln Turi
  • Eunos Int

  
  This service has about 27 stages in total considering it to be a looping service. It mainly links Tampines St 71, Tampines Ave 3 to Eunos and the bus stop at Bedok Nth Rd for transfer to 23, 60 or 87.

   

  One thing is it can be confusing for consumers to board this service at Tampines MRT to various destinations. To Tampines St 71, board at Tampines Ave 4 and to Eunos, board at Tampines Ave 5.

   

  Alternative direction

  21 Eunos MRT / Tampines MRT

  15 Eunos MRT / Bedok Reservoir Rd / a small part of Tampines Ave 1

   

• n4l

  15 Nov 08, 12:33

  Originally posted by tanjun:

  
  38 stages in total.

  Provides a link from Yishun to Choa Chu Kang. However, it goes along Yishun Ave 2 which has an MRT line to provide the link too.

  I don't think you have a choice with Yishun Avenue 2. Nearly any service that runs into Yishun runs parallel with the MRT Line...

• tanjun

  15 Nov 08, 13:33

  Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:

  SMRT Sv. 883

   

  Sembawang Int -> Punggol Int

  • Sembawang Vista[Sembawang Int]
    
  • Canberra Link
  • Yishun Ave 2
  • Yishun Ring Road
  • YIshun St 11
  • Yishun Ave 5
  • Yishun RIng Road
  • Yishun Ave 2
  • Express(Lentor Ave, Yio Chu Kang Road)
  • Hougang Ave 9
  • Hougang Ave 4
  • Hougang Ave 10
  • Hougang Ave 6
  • Sengkang Central
  • Sengkang East Ave
  • Sengkang East Dr
  • Punggol East
  • Punggol Field
  • Punggol Road
  • Punggol Central
  • Punggol Place[Punggol Int]

  
  About 29 stages in total.

   

  This service in my opinion can be feastible looking at 854's demand as a reference. Although 85 from Yishun to Punggol is still faster than 883, it provides the link from Sembawang / Yishun to Hougang.

• tanjun

  15 Nov 08, 13:37

  Originally posted by n4l:

  I don't think you have a choice with Yishun Avenue 2. Nearly any service that runs into Yishun runs parallel with the MRT Line...

  
  Yup. Agreed with you.

   

  The service can go deeper into 804 or 806, 811 or 812 areas but then, this will increase the number of fare stages to 40+ since people long Yishun Ave 2 can utilise the NSL to get to Choa Chu Kang and Bukit Batok.

   

   

• sbs8104h

  15 Nov 08, 20:10

  why not make 143 go 1 big round in toa payoh b4 heading to int???

  jln toa payoh>>lor 2>>lor 1>>lor 4>> lor 6>> back to int...

  i find a waste of time changing to a feeder bus in toa payoh.... or maybe edit some buses to lor 1,2 area... sure high demand!!!

• azharjj

  15 Nov 08, 20:45

  Originally posted by sbs8104h:

  why not make 143 go 1 big round in toa payoh b4 heading to int???

  jln toa payoh>>lor 2>>lor 1>>lor 4>> lor 6>> back to int...

  i find a waste of time changing to a feeder bus in toa payoh.... or maybe edit some buses to lor 1,2 area... sure high demand!!!

  
  haha

  just like current big round of teban/pandan area =D

  the teban/pandan area big round i can understand but big round at toa payoh ?

• SBS8033D

  15 Nov 08, 20:48

  Originally posted by azharjj:

  
  haha

  just like current big round of teban/pandan area =D

  the teban/pandan area big round i can understand but big round at toa payoh ?

  Agree. SBS8104H, if you don't know what the feeders are for, then keep it in yourself.

  Fedders are short haul routes, that are short, of course.They have flat fare.

• SBS8033D

  15 Nov 08, 20:49

  Originally posted by tanjun:

  
  This service has about 27 stages in total considering it to be a looping service. It mainly links Tampines St 71, Tampines Ave 3 to Eunos and the bus stop at Bedok Nth Rd for transfer to 23, 60 or 87.

   

  One thing is it can be confusing for consumers to board this service at Tampines MRT to various destinations. To Tampines St 71, board at Tampines Ave 4 and to Eunos, board at Tampines Ave 5.

   

  Alternative direction

  21 Eunos MRT / Tampines MRT

  15 Eunos MRT / Bedok Reservoir Rd / a small part of Tampines Ave 1

   

  15 is whole part lah.

• ftjj0298

  15 Nov 08, 21:44

  Originally posted by sbs8104h:

  why not make 143 go 1 big round in toa payoh b4 heading to int???

  jln toa payoh>>lor 2>>lor 1>>lor 4>> lor 6>> back to int...

  i find a waste of time changing to a feeder bus in toa payoh.... or maybe edit some buses to lor 1,2 area... sure high demand!!!

  i'm 75% sure he is a clone.

• tvcnq

  15 Nov 08, 21:51

  Originally posted by sbs8104h:

  why not make 143 go 1 big round in toa payoh b4 heading to int???

  jln toa payoh>>lor 2>>lor 1>>lor 4>> lor 6>> back to int...

  i find a waste of time changing to a feeder bus in toa payoh.... or maybe edit some buses to lor 1,2 area... sure high demand!!!

  I thought of 139, 143, 145 going lor 2 >> central >> lor 4 >> lor 6 cos I dont like the idea of them going out of TPY on second stop. But it didnt really make sense. Quite a waste of time.

  Lor 6/7 area got higher demand, esp during peak hours. Just look at the loads on 57 and 59 after it goes past the central area.

• SBS9888Y

  15 Nov 08, 22:02

  Originally posted by sbs8104h:

  why not make 143 go 1 big round in toa payoh b4 heading to int???

  jln toa payoh>>lor 2>>lor 1>>lor 4>> lor 6>> back to int...

  i find a waste of time changing to a feeder bus in toa payoh.... or maybe edit some buses to lor 1,2 area... sure high demand!!!

  hey, toa payoh guy. check your mailbox on the top right hand corner.

  why u choose my favourite svc? haha. i gonna hear the drivers complaint if that happens haha.

• sinicker

  15 Nov 08, 22:53

  we follow sbs8104h, all trunk services must loop in their terminating neighbourhood before entering interchange liao.
  
  tamp - 10, 23, 31, 65, 67 (all to follow 28 way)
  
  psr - 5, 15, 21, 58 (all to follow 518 way)
  
  

• SBS8033D

  15 Nov 08, 23:07

  Originally posted by sinicker:

  we follow sbs8104h, all trunk services must loop in their terminating neighbourhood before entering interchange liao.
  
  tamp - 10, 23, 31, 65, 67 (all to follow 28 way)
  
  psr - 5, 15, 21, 58 (all to follow 518 way)
  
  

  ur brains got problem le ah?

  he say what u follow.

  my bionic eyes can tell me that he is a clone.

• Fryderyk HPH

  15 Nov 08, 23:16

  Originally posted by sinicker:

  we follow sbs8104h, all trunk services must loop in their terminating neighbourhood before entering interchange liao.
  
  tamp - 10, 23, 31, 65, 67 (all to follow 28 way)
  
  psr - 5, 15, 21, 58 (all to follow 518 way)
  
  

  Whaaa... 10, 23, 67 for TP Int so long already wanna loop in Tp? Gosh! And somemore Tp East already got so much link... Got some to Pasir Ris, Changi Village, and other western destinations. But then Tp West and area around Ave 3, 4 of Tp got few X-country services... Maybe 31 can link to Tp West?

   

  For Pasir Ris, for all to follow Express 518, wouldn't that be an overkill on capacity? It seems to much. Moreover, services 5 and 21 are quite long. Sv. 15 definitely cannot. Loop service round at Marine Parade already so long still wanna link round PRis? BC confirm strike one lorh... Anyways from Tp, PRis, got service 3. Townlink also have right?

   

  Anyways, I guess must amend with prudence. I guess the shorter ones are best to amend though. I will work on amending Service 31 to Tampines West(Ave 3, 4) shortly.

• sinicker

  15 Nov 08, 23:17

  Originally posted by SBS8033D:

  ur brains got problem le ah?

  he say what u follow.

  my bionic eyes can tell me that he is a clone.

  my brains no problem. ur sense of humour got problem.

• AEW5001

  15 Nov 08, 23:25

  it is not wise to amend 5, 10, 15, 21, 23, 31, 58, 65, 67.

   

  They have their own purpose. if u want maybe Bedok to Changi Airport via Tampines West Est or something
   

• tanjun

  15 Nov 08, 23:25

  Originally posted by sbs8104h:

  why not make 143 go 1 big round in toa payoh b4 heading to int???

  jln toa payoh>>lor 2>>lor 1>>lor 4>> lor 6>> back to int...

  i find a waste of time changing to a feeder bus in toa payoh.... or maybe edit some buses to lor 1,2 area... sure high demand!!!

  
  Pertaining to your route amendment of service 143, with the roundabout, 143 can easily reach 39 stages which is pretty long.

   

  Besides, 56 provides the link from Lor 4 Toa Payoh to Novena. There is NSL line Braddell MRT at Lor 2 Toa Payoh and further down Toa Payoh MRT Stn although residents along Lor 2 may have to walk some distance to the nearest stations. NSL Line provides the link to the main "high demand areas" like Novena, Newton, Orchard and Chinatown, Harbourfront which is all plied by 143. Kindly correct me if the above statement is wrong.  

• SBS9888Y

  15 Nov 08, 23:39

  Originally posted by tanjun:

  
  Pertaining to your route amendment of service 143, with the roundabout, 143 can easily reach 39 stages which is pretty long.

   

  Besides, 56 provides the link from Lor 4 Toa Payoh to Novena. There is NSL line Braddell MRT at Lor 2 Toa Payoh and further down Toa Payoh MRT Stn although residents along Lor 2 may have to walk some distance to the nearest stations. NSL Line provides the link to the main "high demand areas" like Novena, Newton, Orchard and Chinatown, Harbourfront which is all plied by 143. Kindly correct me if the above statement is wrong.  

  lol. 143's route is currently good enough. there's a reason what the feeder is created for. to serve people to the town centre, that links people out of tpy. i feel that 232's frequency is rather good and consistent.

• Fryderyk HPH

  15 Nov 08, 23:39

  Originally posted by AEW5001:

  it is not wise to amend 5, 10, 15, 21, 23, 31, 58, 65, 67.

   

  They have their own purpose. if u want maybe Bedok to Changi Airport via Tampines West Est or something
   

  
  

  Can only amend Service 31. To serve Tp West. But I think that is as much as it can go.

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  Amendment: Extension of SBST Sv. 31

   

  Tampines Int -> Toa Payoh Int

   

   

  • Tampines Central 1[Tampines Int]
  • Tampines Ave 5
  • Tampines St 83
  • Tampines Ave 3
  • Tampines Ave 8
  • Tampines Ave 1
  • Tampines Ave 4
  • Tampines Ave 5
  • Simei Ave
  • Upper Changi Road East
  • New Upper Changi Road
  • Bedok South Road
  • Bedok South Ave 1
  • Marine Parade Road
  • Amber Road
  • Tg Katong Road
  • Dunman Road
  • Guillemard Camp Road
  • Guillemard Road
  • Cassia Link
  • Old Airport Road
  • Mountbatten Road
  • Sims Way
  • Geyland Road
  • Geyland Lor 1
  • Boon Keng Road
  • Serangoon Road
  • Jln Toa Payoh
  • Toa Payoh Lor 6[Toa Payoh Int]

  
  

  Toa Payoh Int -> Tampines Int

  
  

  • Toa Payoh Lor 6[Toa Payoh Int]
  • Jln Toa Payoh
  • Bendemeer Road
  • Boon Keng Road
  • Geyland Lor 1
  • Sims Ave
  • Sims Way
  • Mountbatten Road
  • Old Airport Road
  • Cassia Link
  • Guillemard Road
  • Guillemard Camp Road
  • Dunman Road
  • Tg Katong Road
  • Amber Road
  • Marine Parade Road
  • Bedok South Ave 1
  • Bedok South Road
  • New Upper Changi Road
  • Upper Changi Road East
  • Simei Ave
  • Tampines Ave 5
  • Tampines Ave 4
  • Tampines Ave 1
  • Tampines Ave 8
  • Tampines St 84
  • Tampines St 83
  • Tampines Ave 5
  • Tampines Central 1[Tampines Int]

  
  

  
  

  
  

  The revised routing will ease capacity shortage on townlink service 291 during peak hours, and provide Tp West residents a link to Toa Payoh. Currently the only other link in Tp West(Semi-XCountry) is Service 22 which is extremely infrequent.

   

• sinicker

  15 Nov 08, 23:45

  Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:

  Can only amend Service 31. To serve Tp West. But I think that is as much as it can go.

  _________________________________________________________________

   

   

   

   

  Amendment: Extension of SBST Sv. 31

   

  Tampines Int -> Toa Payoh Int

   

   

  • Tampines Central 1[Tampines Int]
  • Tampines Ave 5
  • Tampines St 83
  • Tampines Ave 3
  • Tampines Ave 8
  • Tampines Ave 1
  • Tampines Ave 4
  • Tampines Ave 5
  • Simei Ave
  • Upper Changi Road East
  • New Upper Changi Road
  • Bedok South Road
  • Bedok South Ave 1
  • Marine Parade Road
  • Amber Road
  • Tg Katong Road
  • Dunman Road
  • Guillemard Camp Road
  • Guillemard Road
  • Cassia Link
  • Old Airport Road
  • Mountbatten Road
  • Sims Way
  • Geyland Road
  • Geyland Lor 1
  • Boon Keng Road
  • Serangoon Road
  • Jln Toa Payoh
  • Toa Payoh Lor 6[Toa Payoh Int]

  
  

  Toa Payoh Int -> Tampines Int

  
  

  • Toa Payoh Lor 6[Toa Payoh Int]
  • Jln Toa Payoh
  • Bendemeer Road
  • Boon Keng Road
  • Geyland Lor 1
  • Sims Ave
  • Sims Way
  • Mountbatten Road
  • Old Airport Road
  • Cassia Link
  • Guillemard Road
  • Guillemard Camp Road
  • Dunman Road
  • Tg Katong Road
  • Amber Road
  • Marine Parade Road
  • Bedok South Ave 1
  • Bedok South Road
  • New Upper Changi Road
  • Upper Changi Road East
  • Simei Ave
  • Tampines Ave 5
  • Tampines Ave 4
  • Tampines Ave 1
  • Tampines Ave 8
  • Tampines St 84
  • Tampines St 83
  • Tampines Ave 5
  • Tampines Central 1[Tampines Int]

  
  

  
  

  
  

  The revised routing will ease capacity shortage on townlink service 291 during peak hours, and provide Tp West residents a link to Toa Payoh. Currently the only other link in Tp West(Semi-XCountry) is Service 22 which is extremely infrequent.

   

  TP West ppl have S8 or they can walk a little to take S59 to toa payoh. either way, they're definitely faster than amended 31. they also have links to Marine Parade by S15.
  
  Capacity shortage on S291 is more apparent on the eastern loop.