New Scania K230UB Buses are jerky?
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Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:
S185 BCs didnt use raiser when less passengers on the bus.
Today I took SBS 8325L then only got abt 8 pple, the BC still lower the bus. -
Last time, when a certain driver was still driving 36, he played around with the DM3500 kneeling function. Not many drivers know about the kneeling function on the DM3500. The best one I have seen, however, is the SBSL Scania L113CRL, very gradual move.
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
Today I took SBS 8325L then only got abt 8 pple, the BC still lower the bus.
i think i am more experienced with B9TL raiser than the KUB ones, as their raising sounds is quite obvious. less ppl alight/board WAB buses then no nid do so, bringing faster journey i think.last sunday i took 8440L frm JW to Holland V, BC didnt even use raiser to lower the bus. i managed to kope a seat even though the bus has not many ppl.
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Originally posted by Scania:
Last time, when a certain driver was still driving 36, he played around with the DM3500 kneeling function. Not many drivers know about the kneeling function on the DM3500. The best one I have seen, however, is the SBSL Scania L113CRL, very gradual move.
kneeling function? -
Originally posted by Scania:
Last time, when a certain driver was still driving 36, he played around with the DM3500 kneeling function. Not many drivers know about the kneeling function on the DM3500. The best one I have seen, however, is the SBSL Scania L113CRL, very gradual move.
May i know who is it?BTW half of BNDEP DM3500s kneeling function are still operatable. -
Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
Nonsense. Bus stop brake jerk happens if the bus driver opens the door when the bus is about to stop. Theres NOTHING to do with acceleration jerk.
The hard jerk is due to clutch lock-up as well as its two-stage retarder (braking jerk).
Nonsense. !!!
when press accelerater padel it is start to jerk, if dont have experience to drive wouldnt not understand one !!!
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Originally posted by Scania:
Last time, when a certain driver was still driving 36, he played around with the DM3500 kneeling function. Not many drivers know about the kneeling function on the DM3500. The best one I have seen, however, is the SBSL Scania L113CRL, very gradual move.
DM3500 (is a body btw, think u referring to the MKIV DM3500) and L113 have kneeling functions? thought is the newer lowfloor/WAB have kneeling functions de. -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
U guys are just too picky la.. These buses got great acceleration. Besides some of them jerk hard when they shift up gear(like some merc) but other problems really depend on the BC driving skills of how they control the bus.
the acceleration isnt that great..juz cos its light and theyre new, and sbst hasnt tightended the fuell pump.
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Originally posted by Supersbsbc:
Nonsense. Bus stop brake jerk happens if the bus driver opens the door when the bus is about to stop. Theres NOTHING to do with acceleration jerk.
The hard jerk is due to clutch lock-up as well as its two-stage retarder (braking jerk).
Nonsense. !!!
when press accelerater padel it is start to jerk, if dont have experience to drive wouldnt not understand one !!!
it happens in all buses. just whether the jerk is perceived as hard or not. mark IV also jerk when the BC brakes hard what. but since its heavier than the KUB it certainly doesent make the jerk feel so rough. the KUB is terribly light, making the jerk feel much harder.instant letting go of the brake pedal with the p.brake off, irregardless whether the accelerator is immediately depressed or not will induce a jerk.
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Originally posted by SBS7484P:
the acceleration isnt that great..juz cos its light and theyre new, and sbst hasnt tightended the fuell pump.
but if BC accelerates harder, u get that shiok feeling n somemore, u might hear e trademark gearbox changed, like some Mk4 DMs! -
Originally posted by AEW5001:
but if BC accelerates harder, u get that shiok feeling n somemore, u might hear e trademark gearbox changed, like some Mk4 DMs!
not very shiok :Pand it vibrates violently after 1600rpm.. feels like those voith mark 4 dm's with spoilt gearbox that vibrate at high revs.
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Originally posted by SBS7484P:
not very shiok :Pand it vibrates violently after 1600rpm.. feels like those voith mark 4 dm's with spoilt gearbox that vibrate at high revs.
if u dont like that vibration feeling, sit further away from e engine, like in e middle. -
Originally posted by Merczrox:
I think you better ride on it soon as i heard from here that its life is ending soon.lucky for me as i have taken it 3 times.2 times on 185 and 1 time on 174.and luckily,i got tickets of it also.SBS8030L's 185 ticket has faded and is now blank.but luckily,the numbers on SBS8030L's 174 ticket can still be seen.
sbst not buying the demo? -
Originally posted by AEW5001:
if u dont like that vibration feeling, sit further away from e engine, like in e middle.
not the feeling, its rather the low pitched bass note at which the whole body produces when the engine vibrates, making everything rattle even harder -
Originally posted by SBS7484P:
sbst not buying the demo?
no one knows if they will buy... not even the drivers!
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Originally posted by AEW5001:
but if BC accelerates harder, u get that shiok feeling n somemore, u might hear e trademark gearbox changed, like some Mk4 DMs!
try it out on svc 185 when the buses go thru PIE. -
and speaking of the devil
http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/singaporeseen/viewContent.jsp?id=42545 -
Originally posted by bus555:
and speaking of the devil
http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/singaporeseen/viewContent.jsp?id=42545So did that Old lady complain?
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Originally posted by AEW5001:
if u dont like that vibration feeling, sit further away from e engine, like in e middle.FYI, the strong vibration can be felt right in front, at the granny seat. I experienced this before when the BC jammed the trottle.
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There are a few types of jerking on the KUB, one that jerks after the brakes (bus stop brake) have been released, as the bus prepares to move to acceleration stage.
Another jerk that cannot be determined whether is the BC's doing or the mechanical side is the jerk after 1st gear lock up, on to the second gear, there would be a strong pushing/pulling force that constitutes as a jerk.
First when s174 got these new buses (batch 1), the jerk often makes old folks (like the one in Stomp) to fall/lose balance. I lost balance in the jerk after lock up most of the time, before getting used to the pattern.
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Originally posted by TIB537B:
DM3500 (is a body btw, think u referring to the MKIV DM3500) and L113 have kneeling functions? thought is the newer lowfloor/WAB have kneeling functions de.Eh, when we say DM3500 in this forum, what other bus can we talk about? Must we get so specific?
The DM3500s and L113CRLs (even some L113CRBs have them, like PA999Z) have them, most likely as an option. The SBSL's L113CRLs were fitted with them as they serve the Airbus routes, the kneeling function makes it easier for passengers, especially passengers with lugagge to board, the L113CRL should be the first low floor chassis to incorporate such functions.
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Originally posted by Scania:
Eh, when we say DM3500 in this forum, what other bus can we talk about? Must we get so specific?
The DM3500s and L113CRLs (even some L113CRBs have them, like PA999Z) have them, most likely as an option. The SBSL's L113CRLs were fitted with them as they serve the Airbus routes, the kneeling function makes it easier for passengers, especially passengers with lugagge to board, the L113CRL should be the first low floor chassis to incorporate such functions.
Oh icic. My bad. Thanks for the info on the L113CRLs and DM3500s kneeling function. :)
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i used to think that K230s are jerky.
But after sometime, i realise that it actually depends on the BC. Some BCs who are very used to K230s will actually make ur ride a very pleasent journey. -
Originally posted by Scania:
Last time, when a certain driver was still driving 36, he played around with the DM3500 kneeling function. Not many drivers know about the kneeling function on the DM3500. The best one I have seen, however, is the SBSL Scania L113CRL, very gradual move.
Theres 1 153 BC who likes to play with that function.
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Frankly speaking.. whether the buses are jerky or not... those buses are here to stay.
At most, SBST will stop ordering any more such WAB buses from Scania.
But I must say that Scania is a reputable brand for heavy vehicles and such problem shouldn't surface to such an extent.