SMRT New Euro-V Mercedes-Benz OC500LE WAB bus (Part 2)
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SMB66X (KJDEP SP)
Spotted it at Yishun Int at 8:30 pm
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Originally posted by tintinspartan:
SMB66X (KJDEP SP)
Spotted it at Yishun Int at 8:30 pm
Go on service 852?
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Originally posted by nenepokey:
in SMRT livery? if it is, then maybe this is the next batch coming in...
I do really hope it's another batch of Mercedes OC500LE buses. I will really [censored] if the next 66 buses are those rumoured buses from that Communist country.
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Go on service 852?
how to?
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Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:
I do really hope it's another batch of Mercedes OC500LE buses. I will really [censored] if the next 66 buses are those rumoured buses from that Communist country.
Pardon me...but the way you put it is not very nice. (and no flaming intended...just food for thought. :D)Firstly SMRT's Yutong demo is (apparently) not rumored and it's being shipped to Singapore. Secondly, it's not like as if buying China buses means china bad and China communist is your[censored]. Thirdly, if applying your thinking, SMRT shouldn't have bought UDs and Hinos from that country that invaded us about half a century ago. Not mixing up at all.
In fact, be it Chinese, Japanese, English, American company they'll defintely want to do trade with Singapore de. like Yutong offering a demo WAB to SMRT for evaluation (and hopefully a bulk purchase after evaluation). Maybe Yutong will also erase the misconception that China products are cheap knockoffs too.
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Now is free trade century... Did America not buy China products? They attempt to. Did they ban it outright? When they are afraid they ban.
Your computer might be made by parts from that country too! There must be one thing in your house which is made by China, less to speak the whole country! Put aside any prejudice for China and live with the World!
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Originally posted by TIB537B:
Pardon me...but the way you put it is not very nice. (and no flaming intended...just food for thought. :D)Firstly SMRT's Yutong demo is (apparently) not rumored and it's being shipped to Singapore. Secondly, it's not like as if buying China buses means china bad and China communist is your[censored]. Thirdly, if applying your thinking, SMRT shouldn't have bought UDs and Hinos from that country that invaded us about half a century ago. Not mixing up at all.
In fact, be it Chinese, Japanese, English, American company they'll defintely want to do trade with Singapore de. like Yutong offering a demo WAB to SMRT for evaluation (and hopefully a bulk purchase after evaluation). Maybe Yutong will also erase the misconception that China products are cheap knockoffs too.
I just read the thread about that bus, and I realised that that one is indeed a demonstrator.
No offense intended, but having heard so much nasty news about their products, and that their quality control is often so inferior, I don't exactly trust anything China-branded. I do use products made in China (the very Logitech keyboard that I'm typing this post on is made in China), but only if it's a non-China branded product - I trust that the overseas companies that have manufacturing operations in China oversee their production lines more stringently than the Chinese companies themselves. Even then, there had been problems - who could forget those lead-tainted toy trains and those melamine-added milk products from China? Much of those aren't even China-branded products! Also, I often find China-branded products to be rather inferior in quality to non-China-branded products, even if both of them were made in China!
Plus, I detest Chinese products because I often find they lack originality. In China, everything has been ripped off - clothes, shoes, cars, computers, MP3 players, mobile shows, anime merchandise, and practically everything in between had been shamelessly ripped off, and let's not mention that shameless and disgusting Zonda ripoff bus that was discussed a long time ago here. Even their original products has elements that seem lifted from other similar products, which are often subsequently desecrated horribly in a shameless effort to make it look "original". Worse still, there's even now a culture in China in which they take pride in such ripped-off designs and products! As an aspiring designer and artist, and having experienced first-hand the effort needed to develop an original design, I am disgusted by the alarming and utter disrespect they have for the hard work and sweat of the original designers whose designs have been copied by them, and no self-respecting designer could ever support such products.
I hope this clears up any misconceptions anyone had about my opinions.
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Originally posted by azharjj:
u mean those w/o the black thing at the back of the bus ?
ya... i think Batch 1. I dun think it's SMB15T
some batch 1 also got the black thing at the back of the bus. that bus might be 15T which is still on laid up? -
Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:
I just read the thread about that bus, and I realised that that one is indeed a demonstrator.
No offense intended, but having heard so much nasty news about their products, and that their quality control is often so inferior, I don't exactly trust anything China-branded. I do use products made in China (the very Logitech keyboard that I'm typing this post on is made in China), but only if it's a non-China branded product - I trust that the overseas companies that have manufacturing operations in China oversee their production lines more stringently than the Chinese companies themselves. Even then, there had been problems - who could forget those lead-tainted toy trains and those melamine-added milk products from China? Much of those aren't even China-branded products! Also, I often find China-branded products to be rather inferior in quality to non-China-branded products, even if both of them were made in China!
Plus, I detest Chinese products because I often find they lack originality. In China, everything has been ripped off - clothes, shoes, cars, computers, MP3 players, mobile shows, anime merchandise, and practically everything in between had been shamelessly ripped off, and let's not mention that shameless and disgusting Zonda ripoff bus that was discussed a long time ago here. Even their original products has elements that seem lifted from other similar products, which are often subsequently desecrated horribly in a shameless effort to make it look "original". Worse still, there's even now a culture in China in which they take pride in such ripped-off designs and products! As an aspiring designer and artist, and having experienced first-hand the effort needed to develop an original design, I am disgusted by the alarming and utter disrespect they have for the hard work and sweat of the original designers whose designs have been copied by them, and no self-respecting designer could ever support such products.
I hope this clears up any misconceptions anyone had about my opinions.
do not want to pick up arguments. but if MB open a factory in China and make OC and sell to SmRT, then no issue with you right as this is consider as non-china-branded product right? But everything at the factory is still run by China workers (except for some top management). I dun see any difference at all.
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a bus is still a bus.. it isnt that something you own.. hahaha..
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Originally posted by eX.A.K.R.:
I just read the thread about that bus, and I realised that that one is indeed a demonstrator.
No offense intended, but having heard so much nasty news about their products, and that their quality control is often so inferior, I don't exactly trust anything China-branded. I do use products made in China (the very Logitech keyboard that I'm typing this post on is made in China), but only if it's a non-China branded product - I trust that the overseas companies that have manufacturing operations in China oversee their production lines more stringently than the Chinese companies themselves. Even then, there had been problems - who could forget those lead-tainted toy trains and those melamine-added milk products from China? Much of those aren't even China-branded products! Also, I often find China-branded products to be rather inferior in quality to non-China-branded products, even if both of them were made in China!
Plus, I detest Chinese products because I often find they lack originality. In China, everything has been ripped off - clothes, shoes, cars, computers, MP3 players, mobile shows, anime merchandise, and practically everything in between had been shamelessly ripped off, and let's not mention that shameless and disgusting Zonda ripoff bus that was discussed a long time ago here. Even their original products has elements that seem lifted from other similar products, which are often subsequently desecrated horribly in a shameless effort to make it look "original". Worse still, there's even now a culture in China in which they take pride in such ripped-off designs and products! As an aspiring designer and artist, and having experienced first-hand the effort needed to develop an original design, I am disgusted by the alarming and utter disrespect they have for the hard work and sweat of the original designers whose designs have been copied by them, and no self-respecting designer could ever support such products.
I hope this clears up any misconceptions anyone had about my opinions.
You better mind your words, this is a public forum. There are many kinds of people who browse this forum. I will give you 2 days to remove this distasteful immature post of yours. If not, I will show this thread to my PRC friends and then if they decide to sue you, good luck to you. Perhaps it's better if you get sued , why? Then you wake up your f***ing idea. Meanwhile, I will save this post for evidence.
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aiyah.. whats the fuss here people.. its not like you own the bus right.. you are just a commuter only what..it isnt like you are going to bring home the bus or whatever..
furthermore, its a demonstrator.. we will see how SMRT reacts on this.. if its good, SMRT will buy it.. if it isnt, then they wont buy.. SMRT should know better than us..
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it's just a bus. no need so patriotic/loyal.
at most, they'll only give u a 2-cent decrease in fares. -
Originally posted by sinicker:
it's just a bus. no need so patriotic/loyal.
at most, they'll only give u a 2-cent decrease in fares.
2 cents only. So blah... -
Originally posted by Interception_7:
aiyah.. whats the fuss here people.. its not like you own the bus right.. you are just a commuter only what..it isnt like you are going to bring home the bus or whatever..
furthermore, its a demonstrator.. we will see how SMRT reacts on this.. if its good, SMRT will buy it.. if it isnt, then they wont buy.. SMRT should know better than us..
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
do not want to pick up arguments. but if MB open a factory in China and make OC and sell to SmRT, then no issue with you right as this is consider as non-china-branded product right? But everything at the factory is still run by China workers (except for some top management). I dun see any difference at all.
As I said, the issue I have is not China or their workers per se, but rather, who designs the product and supervises the quality (emphasis added). China is well known as the factory of the world, but their reputation as being original or having good quality control themselves is known to be terrible generally.
As for your example: yes, I don't mind if Mercedes opens a factory in China and build buses there for sale to Singapore; to me, it doesn't matter where the product is made (mostly), it's about who designed it and is supervising the production.
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Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:
You better mind your words, this is a public forum. There are many kinds of people who browse this forum. I will give you 2 days to remove this distasteful immature post of yours. If not, I will show this thread to my PRC friends and then if they decide to sue you, good luck to you. Perhaps it's better if you get sued , why? Then you wake up your f***ing idea. Meanwhile, I will save this post for evidence.
Just as you have the right to support China products, I have the right to criticise them. It's my personal freedom of speech here, and you will have to learn to accept opposing arguments. Mob violence and suing won't get you anywhere.
I know there's a difference between libel/slander and voicing out your opinions; unlike the last time when I spilled fire over SMRT in the other thread (which I subsequently deleted as an act of taking responsibility over the mess it caused), my post here maturely pointed out my arguments supporting my point of view. Threatening me rather than intelligently arguing back with your point of view is going to get you nowhere, and is basically a form of trolling and flame-baiting.
And, really, do you even have the money to sue me? Or know where I live? Do you have my real name, my exact address, and such, which are needed to serve me a lawyer's letter? Sure, you can go to my ISP, but do you think they will turn over my personal data so I can be sued over rightfully expressing my opinions rationally over the internet?
This is the internet, pal, and you do know that this is a public forum - and a public forum is for voicing out all kinds of opinions, including those that you will not like hearing. Either accept that, or go somewhere else where everyone agrees with you. Trust me, that kind of place gets boring after a while - it's like playing a computer game with all the challenges and achievements already unlocked and completed.
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Finally I can't resist but post:
He's not the one suing you if it ever gets to that lar....
Do you know anything?
I mean? There was a guy who managed to sue mcdonald bcos he claimed he didn't know the coffee was hot, and he subsequently placed it in the groin when driving and the coffee spilled.
Of course his balls were burned.
Do you have any idea what you're saying can be held against you at any given time? Don't think yourself as knowledgeable/mature. Be humble.
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
Finally I can't resist but post:
He's not the one suing you if it ever gets to that lar....
Do you know anything?
I mean? There was a guy who managed to sue mcdonald bcos he claimed he didn't know the coffee was hot, and he subsequently placed it in the groin when driving and the coffee spilled.
Of course his balls were burned.
Do you have any idea what you're saying can be held against you at any given time? Don't think yourself as knowledgeable/mature. Be humble.
I'm just pointing out facts, and - apologies if I do really sound arrogant here but - I feel he's the one trying to be arrogant in the first place by threatening me over nothing more than a forum post supporting my arguments.
I won't pursue this much further. I will leave everything else to a moderator to decide.
Edit: just to add on: if he thinks suing me will force me to like or at least change my opinions to agree with him, bad luck. It will just make me hate China even more.
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So what now? This is bringing up what had happened just before he "left".
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Sigh. I guess this forum is really too much for me.
Bye folks.
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and just to bring this thing back to topic...
Does anyone know when all the OCs coming out?and what's the newest OC so far?
and eX.A.K.R.,my thought for a nickel...if you think this forum is too much,and u subsequently decide to quit,just let me tell you:don't expect everyone to respect your opinion.
and to others:keep all the bad comments to yourself,for goodness sake...
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lets get back to topic..
newest OC? SMB 67 T?
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Originally posted by Interception_7:
lets get back to topic..
newest OC? SMB 67 T?
huh? i tot 67T is already alive and is now living under KJDEP?
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Originally posted by nenepokey:
huh? i tot 67T is already alive and is now living under KJDEP?
but he's asking, whats the new OC so far.. so 67 T is the newest right? haha..