KUB Vs OC500

• AEW5001

  21 Dec 08, 18:29

  for me, OCs definitely and e 80XX series KUbs. If BCs steps e gas hard, it shioks! i don think e other batches can do that.

• nenepokey

  21 Dec 08, 19:40

  Originally posted by sbs8104h:

  i feel that KUBS are much more quieter

  OC500LE is quieter leh. KUB radiator very noisy. hhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...........

• bus555

  21 Dec 08, 19:46

  even though i havent taken a Oc yet but I still find the OC the best in terms of the body work. Wish they would buy more of them though.

  for the KUBs, i have one word to say: jerking (problem)

• TIB1224Y

  21 Dec 08, 19:55

  Scania K230UB (Euro 4 EGR) reported fuel burn: 50-55 liters per 100 km (1.92-1.98km/l).

  Mercedes Benz OC500LE (Euro 5 incentive/SCR) reported fuel burn: 45 liters per 100 km.

  Now, who saves more...

• n4l

  21 Dec 08, 19:58

  MB 

• TIB1049L

  21 Dec 08, 19:59

  Originally posted by TIB1224Y:

  Scania K230UB (Euro 4 EGR) reported fuel burn: 50-55 liters per 100 km (1.92-1.98km/l).

  Mercedes Benz OC500LE (Euro 5 incentive/SCR) reported fuel burn: 45 liters per 100 km.

  Now, who saves more...

  Yeah, it kinda matters more now about the fuel consumption rate in this type of energy saving world we are in now ... ...

• sBs_boy

  21 Dec 08, 20:32

  I think i'll vote for K230 ?

  The OCs are way tooooo noisy for my own comfort.

• sbs8104h

  21 Dec 08, 20:34

  Save the earth!

  SOS... answer the call(taken from Live Earth 2007)

• Oceane

  21 Dec 08, 20:35

  Originally posted by sbs8104h:

  i feel that KUBS are much more quieter

  
  Does the sound of a bus matter? What we should compare is engine performance and not how much noise it makes. Is a quiet bus good? Is a noisy bus bad?

  Even so, a powerful bus is not totally good but a bus less powerful is not totally bad too. There are many other factors that come into place, above all which includes personal view and so on.

  Personally...

  1) The OC500LE has higher horsepower rating than the KUB
  2) The OC500LE consumes less fuel per KM travelled compared to the KUB
  3) The OC500LE is less jerky than the KUB (with some KUB sounding as if the underneath might just give way anytime - SBS 8327G of Sv36)

  Now, maybe you would say that you also want to factor in the sound of a bus. That I wouldn't stop you, but my point I want to make is that the amount of noise a bus makes isn't the main factor. You can have a loud roaring bus that drops you off at your destination much faster than a smooth quiet bus that may take a longer time to transport you to your destination. Given a choice, which would you choose?

  (Above paragraph entitles you to your personal opinion - no definite answer)

• n4l

  21 Dec 08, 20:50

  Originally posted by Oceane:

  
  Does the sound of a bus matter? What we should compare is engine performance and not how much noise it makes. Is a quiet bus good? Is a noisy bus bad?

  Yes. Buses should be as quiet as possible whilst having relatively fine engine performance. Would you like your future car or future buses to sound like an F1 Car's Engine while having maximum performance?

  MB does it almost right for the OCs. The engine insulation is great, rides are smooth if the driver knows the bus, etc

• tvcnq

  21 Dec 08, 20:53

  Originally posted by Merczrox:

  OC500LE interior is ok what.whereas the kub interior looks more boring.all brown.sux man.actually SBS8033D's purple interior is more nicer.not to say,its seats are also nice like the VSOs.actually it would have been much better if SBS8033D's interior design were put into the rest of the kubs.and many kubs engine are now noisy also when they move off from a stop.and the OC500LE aircon is good what.only that the aircon duct is quite small like the Hispano Habits.ur 1st point,which MB 0405s u mean?SBST or SMRT?

  Yeah. 8033 loooks nicer but perhaps because it's a change from the usual. If all the kubs look like that, i would think the colour scheme is boring too. I prefer kubs when seated but OCs when standing cos less jerky.

• Oceane

  21 Dec 08, 20:55

  Originally posted by n4l:

  Yes. Buses should be as quiet as possible whilst having relatively fine engine performance. Would you like your future car or future buses to sound like an F1 Car's Engine?

  MB does it almost right for the OCs. The engine insulation is great, rides are smooth if the driver knows the bus, etc

  
  Yes, my point being, the OC and the KUB all relatively sound the same, neither of them is really that loud, so there's no need to compare the sound...

• SBS997A

  21 Dec 08, 21:23

  I vote for MAN :D :D

• gorby107

  21 Dec 08, 21:27

  Originally posted by SBS997A:

  I vote for MAN :D :D

  
  Volvo for me

• gorby107

  21 Dec 08, 21:28

  Originally posted by AEW5001:

  for me, OCs definitely and e 80XX series KUbs. If BCs steps e gas hard, it shioks! i don think e other batches can do that.

  Other batches of the KUB can do that, it depends on the BC

• Stage

  21 Dec 08, 23:15

  Originally posted by SBS7484P:

  
  and freezing cold.

  your fav 7493R and my fav 7484S

  
  Eh, 7493R also my fave bus in the whole SBST fleet lah.  Then 7484P ley.

• Stage

  21 Dec 08, 23:18

  Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:

  
  I like 88's fleet of B9s the best.

  Because they are the newest.

  Except 7486L, 7495K, 7497E.

• sbs8104h

  21 Dec 08, 23:19

  i said i feel. I would choose OC500 as it is faster than KUBS

• Interception_7

  22 Dec 08, 00:00

  I love the OC rather than the KUB :D

• tr@nsp0rt_F3V3R

  22 Dec 08, 00:01

  i would say.. both are equal.

• Scania

  22 Dec 08, 00:53

  Both are out for me.

  Give me a B10M Mk II, Scania N113CRB, an O.405 or a B7R/RLE Mk I or Mk II.

• Scania N113CRB luver

  22 Dec 08, 12:35

  Originally posted by Scania:

  Both are out for me.

  Give me a B10M Mk II, Scania N113CRB, an O.405 or a B7R/RLE Mk I or Mk II.

  Haha nice one. What about the DAFs? I like the DAFs alot. Stable in cornering, superb acceleration, able to speed well, rather comfortable and its quiet.

  
  Anyway back to topic, i like OC500LE more. Mainly due to its quietness when cruising on the highway. The KUBs radiator will then kick on and start to dispose the engine heat away, much of a time its a noisy process. If you guys are talking about its noise when the OCs accelerate away, think again. Is it better to bear with loud noise of 5 seconds or a constant medium noise for 20mins?

  Last but not least, the OCs have bigger window panels. So i no need to fear that when i sit down there would be a huge pillar blocking my view. I need to look outside as i suffer from motion sickness.

• SBS7484P

  22 Dec 08, 12:58

  Originally posted by gorby107:

  
  Volvo for me

  
  x2.

  <3 SBS 8030 L

• SBS7484P

  22 Dec 08, 13:00

  Originally posted by Stage:

  
  Eh, 7493R also my fave bus in the whole SBST fleet lah.  Then 7484P ley.

  
  dun remind me of the P

  knn, ytd in an msn convo, i typoed SBS 7484 D.

• Oceane

  22 Dec 08, 13:08

  Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:

  Haha nice one. What about the DAFs? I like the DAFs alot. Stable in cornering, superb acceleration, able to speed well, rather comfortable and its quiet.

  
  Anyway back to topic, i like OC500LE more. Mainly due to its quietness when cruising on the highway. The KUBs radiator will then kick on and start to dispose the engine heat away, much of a time its a noisy process. If you guys are talking about its noise when the OCs accelerate away, think again. Is it better to bear with loud noise of 5 seconds or a constant medium noise for 20mins?

  Last but not least, the OCs have bigger window panels. So i no need to fear that when i sit down there would be a huge pillar blocking my view. I need to look outside as i suffer from motion sickness.

  I wouldn't even say the noise the OC makes when accelerating is loud. If they call that LOUD, then what is O405 for them? Deafening till the eardrums spoil?

  1 last point too, the OC uses a better brand of Lawo MKIV GmBH EDS than the cheapskate Coolair EDS. :P