SBS Transit orders 900 buses from Scania (Part 3)

• jayh272416

  21 Feb 09, 11:25

  Originally posted by Destined2REIGN:

   

  BNdep zai or not? (Even masking tape can't fix this!)
  
  

  

  what rego. i want go steal the things

  ok i was jking  but still wad rego

• Destined2REIGN

  21 Feb 09, 13:49

  Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:

  
  that thing is actually a storeroom

  I know. The door has been ripped off..

• Destined2REIGN

  21 Feb 09, 13:51

  Originally posted by jayh272416:

  

  what rego. i want go steal the things

  ok i was jking  but still wad rego

  forgot. :X iirc is 8225S  / 8227L. Inside got breakdown triangle, First aid box and mechanism for the windscreen wiper.

• JaSoNhSu92

  21 Feb 09, 20:28

  Originally posted by Destined2REIGN:

  forgot. :X iirc is 8225S  / 8227L. Inside got breakdown triangle, First aid box and mechanism for the windscreen wiper.

  
  and got broom and dustpen somemore. 8160U kena accident got that storeroom door put to one side.

• Destined2REIGN

  22 Feb 09, 00:49

  Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:

  
  and got broom and dustpen somemore. 8160U kena accident got that storeroom door put to one side.

  IIRC, thought in K230. Brooms and dustpans are place in another cabinet next to the granny seat? Didnt see any brooms and dustpans in that cabinet.

• JaSoNhSu92

  22 Feb 09, 00:54

  Originally posted by Destined2REIGN:

  IIRC, thought in K230. Brooms and dustpans are place in another cabinet next to the granny seat? Didnt see any brooms and dustpans in that cabinet.

  
  

• Destined2REIGN

  22 Feb 09, 00:59

  Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:

  
  

  saw that in the other thread :). Anyway, the cabinet I was talking about is also in this picture... LOLS!

• TIB537B

  22 Feb 09, 01:00

  Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:

  
  

  i always thought the compartment (green cross) is to store first aid stuffs...

• scaniaB7RLE

  9 Mar 09, 18:09

  wah so long no news nor updates. so anyone got news abt the upcoming KUB eur5 ??

• Scania N113CRB l0v3r

  9 Mar 09, 19:27

  Originally posted by scaniaB7RLE:

  wah so long no news nor updates. so anyone got news abt the upcoming KUB eur5 ??

  
  Gt go ask SBST or LTA

• QX179R

  9 Mar 09, 19:31

  by right the green + compartment is used to store the first aid box..

  the + should be in red colour instead..

• Fryderyk HPH

  9 Mar 09, 19:47

  Originally posted by QX179R:

  by right the green + compartment is used to store the first aid box..

  the + should be in red colour instead..

  The "red" cross *redcross* thing is a copyright of the International Red Cross Organisation.

   

  That is why now even ambulance don't have the red cross sign...

• QX179R

  9 Mar 09, 19:54

  by rights, the red cross should have given them the permission to use it..

  anyway its related to medical items..

• SBS8533C

  9 Mar 09, 20:03

  Originally posted by Destined2REIGN:

  IIRC, thought in K230. Brooms and dustpans are place in another cabinet next to the granny seat? Didnt see any brooms and dustpans in that cabinet.

  
  But not all the buses have..
• SBS3688Y

  9 Mar 09, 22:37

  there's an article in the Sunday Times yesterday complaining about SBST and SMRT new WAB buses. among the complaints from commuters are the steps leading to the rear and very few seats.

  I've tried the WAB buses in Melbourne and noticed WAB pax enter and exit from the entrance doors. The front part of the bus can be lowered to level with the roadside kerb for WAB pax to enter and drop off without the driver's assistance! But still, there's steps leading to the rear. But I don't think their designs are applicable to sg context, as Melb bus ridership are lower than sg.

  My suggestion is to design the similar types of layout as per older buses in sg. With a step in the front and exit doors again. This prob helps to increase seating capacity by utilising the area above the front tyres. I believe pax feel better with a step at the doors rather than steps in the middle aisle. Design a WAB ramp (prob longer than existing design) that can be manually placed from the top of the door step onto the roadside kerb.

• TIB537B

  9 Mar 09, 22:43

  Originally posted by SBS3688Y:

  there's an article in the Sunday Times yesterday complaining about SBST and SMRT new WAB buses. among the complaints from commuters are the steps leading to the rear and very few seats.

  I've tried the WAB buses in Melbourne and noticed WAB pax enter and exit from the entrance doors. The front part of the bus can be lowered to level with the roadside kerb for WAB pax to enter and drop off without the driver's assistance! But still, there's steps leading to the rear. But I don't think their designs are applicable to sg context, as Melb bus ridership are lower than sg.

  My suggestion is to design the similar types of layout as per older buses in sg. With a step in the front and exit doors again. This prob helps to increase seating capacity by utilising the area above the front tyres. I believe pax feel better with a step at the doors rather than steps in the middle aisle. Design a WAB ramp (prob longer than existing design) that can be manually placed from the top of the door step onto the roadside kerb.

  Something like this?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8xj8BLquqE

• 16/f/lonely

  9 Mar 09, 22:54

  At the crux of the problem is the "throwing all eggs in the same basket" problem.

  We need WAB buses. But we don't need 100% WAB buses!

  Of course I see advantages in 100% WAB. Admin stuff like cameos will be less of a headache.

  I am ok with 100% WAB, and am willing to make sacrifices for the disabled. Why can't the others do the same?

  Putting steps in front/middle/back don't help one bit. Just a few years ago, people were already compalining about the B10Ms and 0405s.

  So what do you think is the problem here?

  And there was a cuckoo who even mentioned on Straits Times placing the exit at the back of the bus. Just to solve the problem of people not moving you want to remove the engine as well?

   

• SBS3688Y

  10 Mar 09, 23:40

  I believe when those people who complain of steps in the front and rear exit doors of older buses, they expect the entire bus interior to be stepless which is impossible for a city bus design.

  Older buses: with steps on both doors. With engines more well spread out underneath, the bus need not have any steps along the aisle; slope only. Also can accomodate more seats.

  New WAB buses: stepless on both doors. But to compensate for accomodation of engines, the rear half of the bus got to be much higher and need to add in steps along the aisle.

  If commuters were to know the costs and benefits of both types of buses? What would they prefer???

  To try balance by adding a step to both doors, so that can add in more seats and avoid steps along the aisle? And designing a ramp that can be used to overcome the door steps?

• TIB537B

  11 Mar 09, 00:31

   

  Originally posted by SBS3688Y:

  I believe when those people who complain of steps in the front and rear exit doors of older buses, they expect the entire bus interior to be stepless which is impossible for a city bus design.

  Older buses: with steps on both doors. With engines more well spread out underneath, the bus need not have any steps along the aisle; slope only. Also can accomodate more seats.

  New WAB buses: stepless on both doors. But to compensate for accomodation of engines, the rear half of the bus got to be much higher and need to add in steps along the aisle.

  If commuters were to know the costs and benefits of both types of buses? What would they prefer???

  To try balance by adding a step to both doors, so that can add in more seats and avoid steps along the aisle? And designing a ramp that can be used to overcome the door steps?

  Not really. Take a look at the Mercedes Citaro Interior. Front to last row of seats are stepless.

  http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/unitedkingdom/mpc/mpc_unitedkingdom_website/en/home_mpc/buses/home/products/new_buses/new_Citaro_12/Impressions/Interieur.html

  SMRT/SBST are only getting Low Entry buses. Entrance to exit door stepless....hm

• lianamaster

  11 Mar 09, 09:30

  Spotted a Scania KUB on Service 198 this morning at about 8:30am along Jurong Town Hall road in the direction of Boon Lay. I couldn't catch the bus rego though 'cos I was on another bus in the opposite direction...

• SMB32T

  11 Mar 09, 09:50

  Originally posted by lianamaster:

  Spotted a Scania KUB on Service 198 this morning at about 8:30am along Jurong Town Hall road in the direction of Boon Lay. I couldn't catch the bus rego though 'cos I was on another bus in the opposite direction...

  
  Service 198 already got 2 Scania K230UB perms from BBDEP starting this week, check the redeployments thread.

• TIB 589B

  11 Mar 09, 09:51

   

  Originally posted by lianamaster:

  Spotted a Scania KUB on Service 198 this morning at about 8:30am along Jurong Town Hall road in the direction of Boon Lay. I couldn't catch the bus rego though 'cos I was on another bus in the opposite direction...

  Maybe perm K230UB :)

• SBS8043A

  11 Mar 09, 14:08

  Originally posted by TIB 589B:

  Maybe perm K230UB :)

  
  didn i say its perm on 198 in da other thread...

• SBS8033D

  11 Mar 09, 15:03

  Originally posted by Destined2REIGN:

  forgot. :X iirc is 8225S  / 8227L. Inside got breakdown triangle, First aid box and mechanism for the windscreen wiper.

  SBS8225S.

• lianamaster

  11 Mar 09, 20:49

  Originally posted by SMB32T:

  
  Service 198 already got 2 Scania K230UB perms from BBDEP starting this week, check the redeployments thread.

  Thanks for clarifying that.