[Photos Of Buses] January 2009
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Originally posted by TWS4793:
You're sure it's White plate?
Doesn't look like White plate to me. I see Block 412 (and the coffeeshop) not Block 416...
then Green Plate i confused over W n G srry wor
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Originally posted by n4l:
Oh, or are you SBS233X? Clone account ah?
How can Simple_Boi and me be clones whereby you seen both us in person before.
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Originally posted by TIB537B:
What is the red thing on the left of the bus windscreen?
(apologies that i had contributed to spam..i think. simple_boi, i told you already, that is far enough. Stop it.)
The red thing is the Terninating plate, used when BCs are on their last trip before mealbreak. -
Originally posted by Scania N113CRB l0v3r:
i help u with some photo i dun dare to show it here hehe
SBS608Z on 225G|
lolx? Toa Payoh IntThanks. And don't "dun dare". This is a bus forum, a bus community. Fear don't and should not exist in a community
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Originally posted by SBS 233 X:
How can Simple_Boi and me be clones whereby you seen both us in person before.
Apologies. I can't link the most people here with their forum nicknames...neither do I really remember most of you....no negative feelings, but I can't really remember unless I've knowingly met you all once or twice...
I believe you've probably seen me in an outing, but I've never really noticed who you all are and remembered which usernames you all use...
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Originally posted by lifelikedrama:
Thanks. And don't "dun dare". This is a bus forum, a bus community. Fear don't and should not exist in a community
I feel extreme fear in posting any photos (if say I ever do take photos of buses again) I take in this thread...lest Simple_Boi claims that its not up to his standards yah... :(
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Originally posted by n4l:
Apologies. I can't link the most people here with their forum nicknames...neither do I really remember most of you....no negative feelings, but I can't really remember unless I've knowingly met you all once or twice...
I believe you've probably seen me in an outing, but I've never really noticed who you all are and remembered which usernames you all use...
I salute you. You have the guts to own up to your mistakes. BTW: I think I suffer the same problem as you (and serveral other bus enthus). I need to meet some people SERVERAL times to rememeber their names. Let alone their User IDs. :$
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Originally posted by n4l:
I feel extreme fear in posting any photos (if say I ever do take photos of buses again) I take in this thread...lest Simple_Boi claims that its not up to his standards yah... :(
Don't care about other's comments. There's definitely people who will appreciate your photos no matter how bad they are. Just look at tintinspartan's example. lol..Not being longwinded but I still need to stress a point, please refrain from using flash when taking night shots. I believe simple_boi was also trying to stress this point, but it's just that he used the wrong words, that's all.
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Originally posted by lifelikedrama:
Don't care about other's comments. There's definitely people who will appreciate your photos no matter how bad they are. Just look at tintinspartan's example. lol..Not being longwinded but I still need to stress a point, please refrain from using flash when taking night shots. I believe simple_boi was also trying to stress this point, but it's just that he used the wrong words, that's all.
Heh... (:
Yeah got it...
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Originally posted by Destined2REIGN:
I salute you. You have the guts to own up to your mistakes. BTW: I think I suffer the same problem as you (and serveral other bus enthus). I need to meet some people SERVERAL times to rememeber their names. Let alone their User IDs. :$
yes, i sometimes at real outing talk talk talk with some pple, later i think, who is this pple huh? i think need to post intor thread with face, maybe UD tour gp photo can be used, row one, row two blahblhablah
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Originally posted by lifelikedrama:
Don't care about other's comments. There's definitely people who will appreciate your photos no matter how bad they are. Just look at tintinspartan's example. lol..Not being longwinded but I still need to stress a point, please refrain from using flash when taking night shots. I believe simple_boi was also trying to stress this point, but it's just that he used the wrong words, that's all.
it now makes me feel that simple_boi is just a cocky n boastful person after all.
anyway, all r welcomed to continue posting bus pics here.
also note that yr comments should be constructive.
on another note, Simple_boi, pls post yr pic if u think yrs is better than n4l, otherwise,
NPNT!
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Just my 2 cents here.
This entire post is not directed to anyone in particular, but rather, a community as a whole. If you feel offended by the nature of my posting & certain keywords, I sincerely apologise in advance because I have no intention to do so.
I feel saddened that in a bus community like Singapore, it's mandatory to have proper sunlight / absolutely no obstacles in bus photos, failing which the person gets a super harsh lecture and probably gets skinned alive virtually.
Just look at the Hong Kong bus community. People post photos of a VSO with flower pots blocking the sides of the bus. People post photos of a Trident that has no proper lighting. People post night shots using free hand (and abit grainy). People post photos of bus in wierd angles (some even tilted). People post night shots that have the sides looking super dark.. But do people there lash at those who do not follow so-called proper protocol in taking photos?
Yes having proper lighting conditions makes your photo look nicer. It's an added bonus, not a must-have. What matters more is that the bus is there; the registration plate is shown, the service number & route details are shown too as well as what's inside the bus. Is it a crime to have obstacles in your photo? Is it illegal to have the wrong lighting conditions in your photo?
Alright. People probably say that since they can take photos with super-good quality, so why not the rest. Please. Different people have different styles of photo-taking. So what if your photo looks "nicer" than the rest; please respect another person's photo-taking style. If there is no Sun for 7 days, will you NOT take photos for 7 days? W/O sunlight and you will die because your photos will turn out "horrible"?
I'm not suggesting that we follow Hong Kong's way of treating fellow bus enthusiasts, but as we are from an Asian culture, humility is what makes us stand out from other cultures. Mutual respect is important here. I'm sure if everyone treats another with some basic respect, the entire community can be much more fun-loving and enjoyable. Of which I seriously see no point in having this senior-junior barricade theory, because it's totally rubbish. Does it mean that a senior knows more than a junior? Does it mean that a junior must learn everything a senior teaches them?
I think I've said this before somewhere, but I shall say this again. In chinese there is this saying that goes "三人行，必有我师焉。则其善者而从之，其�善者而改之。"
For those that don't know what it means, it means that obviously there will be someone here who knows more than others do. However, as someone who knows lesser, one should only learn the correct things and change the wrong doings (i.e. Remind the person that this is morally wrong / has dire consequences). This is a Confucian principle passed down through many generations; the fact that this principle still stands today shows that it does have a great impact on human beings.
Of course, sometimes it does take a reminder or two to let the person know that he is in the wrong. But not till the extent of a lecture. I shall put it this way that the more cocky you are, the more you fail in life. Being humble shall push you to greater heights.
I shall stop here. I hope my viewpoint will be taken into consideration. Of course, you don't need to implement a rule that you must treat others with respect, the fact that we are humans (or homosapients in leeman terms) means that we should already treat one another with respect. Sometimes we may get stressed up due to various reasons (pressure or certain personal problems) but it's best not to relieve them off here. Of which I also admit that I've been too rowdy at times before, and I sincerely apologise for the emotional distress I may have caused, to anyone affected.
Yes it's an open forum, we would see people from all walks of life; but one thing in common we have is that we are all humans. And this is a fact.
SBS 9644J on 86
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Originally posted by Oceane:
Just my 2 cents here.
This entire post is not directed to anyone in particular, but rather, a community as a whole. If you feel offended by the nature of my posting & certain keywords, I sincerely apologise in advance because I have no intention to do so.
I feel saddened that in a bus community like Singapore, it's mandatory to have proper sunlight / absolutely no obstacles in bus photos, failing which the person gets a super harsh lecture and probably gets skinned alive virtually.
Just look at the Hong Kong bus community. People post photos of a VSO with flower pots blocking the sides of the bus. People post photos of a Trident that has no proper lighting. People post night shots using free hand (and abit grainy). People post photos of bus in wierd angles (some even tilted). People post night shots that have the sides looking super dark.. But do people there lash at those who do not follow so-called proper protocol in taking photos?
Yes having proper lighting conditions makes your photo look nicer. It's an added bonus, not a must-have. What matters more is that the bus is there; the registration plate is shown, the service number & route details are shown too as well as what's inside the bus. Is it a crime to have obstacles in your photo? Is it illegal to have the wrong lighting conditions in your photo?
Alright. People probably say that since they can take photos with super-good quality, so why not the rest. Please. Different people have different styles of photo-taking. So what if your photo looks "nicer" than the rest; please respect another person's photo-taking style. If there is no Sun for 7 days, will you NOT take photos for 7 days? W/O sunlight and you will die because your photos will turn out "horrible"?
I'm not suggesting that we follow Hong Kong's way of treating fellow bus enthusiasts, but as we are from an Asian culture, humility is what makes us stand out from other cultures. Mutual respect is important here. I'm sure if everyone treats another with some basic respect, the entire community can be much more fun-loving and enjoyable. Of which I seriously see no point in having this senior-junior barricade theory, because it's totally rubbish. Does it mean that a senior knows more than a junior? Does it mean that a junior must learn everything a senior teaches them?
I think I've said this before somewhere, but I shall say this again. In chinese there is this saying that goes "三人行，必有我师焉。则其善者而从之，其�善者而改之。"
For those that don't know what it means, it means that obviously there will be someone here who knows more than others do. However, as someone who knows lesser, one should only learn the correct things and change the wrong doings (i.e. Remind the person that this is morally wrong / has dire consequences). This is a Confucian principle passed down through many generations; the fact that this principle still stands today shows that it does have a great impact on human beings.
Of course, sometimes it does take a reminder or two to let the person know that he is in the wrong. But not till the extent of a lecture. I shall put it this way that the more cocky you are, the more you fail in life. Being humble shall push you to greater heights.
I shall stop here. I hope my viewpoint will be taken into consideration. Of course, you don't need to implement a rule that you must treat others with respect, the fact that we are humans (or homosapients in leeman terms) means that we should already treat one another with respect. Sometimes we may get stressed up due to various reasons (pressure or certain personal problems) but it's best not to relieve them off here. Of which I also admit that I've been too rowdy at times before, and I sincerely apologise for the emotional distress I may have caused, to anyone affected.
Yes it's an open forum, we would see people from all walks of life; but one thing in common we have is that we are all humans. And this is a fact.
SBS 9644J on 86
Your post is very true. I don't think i'd like people to flame about the pictures posted. A reminder is enough, not needing to go overboard with all the ruckus yesterday.i admit my pics posted here are of a very low standard than others here, but i posted them here because it's my hobby and my passion. But the main point to Simple_boi is that each photo that i take, i know there is something unique to the picture..becauseyour point of "But too bad, you aren't capable of taking nice photo. Given your photo, it doesn't even worth to develop it out. You don't even know of appreciating photos" is very hurting to me and to everyone in the bus community. I'd be ashamed if i knew you personally.
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I have shot photos for quite a number of years, and perhaps the bus community is a place where I hear the most funny and restricting protocols, really...
In photography as a general term, there should not be too many rules to restrict how a photo should be shot, and there are no hard and fast rules either. There may be some tricks like 'rule of thirds' and so on, but they should be only regarded as tricks and not how you should be governed to make your pictures look nice.
I have tried to share with some folks around me to try these tricks commonly used in commercial photography, but I feel being shunned every time. Bus must be well lighted, bus must be in the center. I even got flamed by god-knows-who about a Scania N113 being posed in the 'rule of thirds' with a battery powered rubbish collector. What is the constant refusal in accepting new ideas?
Maybe no one has seen my potential, maybe people do not know me well. I feel sad again and again when these commercial tricks were put to waste just because there was a trend set about how a bus photo should be taken.
Then again, I am not the best. But experience on the field is important. While you guys have shot bus photos on the street for the past number of years, I have shot on community levels all the way to international levels. Its only recently that i have joined the bus theme, and its also recently that i have left it... Retired for good until I can find what i should shoot, instead of grabbing a thousand-dollar camera just to shoot something on the streets and call myself a 'street-photographer' which any uncle or auntie can do.
I have ever thought of the fields that I can head after this. Studio? Macro? Or even a theme like capturing people at work in different jobs on the society. Who knows...
Maybe I have reached the level of reckoning, that competition with a fellow photographer is no longer of importance; we all have our own styles. I cannot compete with another bus fan's style, neither can I compete with other commercial photographers out there, we are simply on different fields rather than levels.
I welcome anyone to approach me to learn more about the different ways that you can shoot a photo. To round up, share something that was shot in the past...
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i don't see why there will be arguments here when there should be posting of photos of buses. there is definitely no need to say things like "useless photos" or comparing each other of their photography skills or photos to see which is better. ok so n4l had posted his first photo, so he should be new to taking photos and not knowing the usual guidelines of posting photos (i don't know also), so i don't understand why Simple_boi have to scold n4l for not listen to advices about not using flash, when he's new to taking photos of buses.
somemore i don't see how can 2 bus fans keep arguing about photography skills and then to insulting? can't you use PM? Simple_boi is wrong here, i do agree. he was wrong to start judging whether the photo are good or not or said n4l's photo is useless, but n4l is not good either by talking back and talking nonsense. why do both of you have to exchange insults at each other? if you are intending to shame yourselves further by using such words (applies if incident happens in the future), go ahead. since its just 2 people arguing (which brought in TIB537B and dfs24 to argue with Simple_boi also, which i think can be uncalled for), both of you should have used PM to settle both of your issue, and yet both didn't.
i think it should be high time some bus fans should learn to control their mouth and anger in here before this cause another of such incidents to happen.
i hope im not tiring out the moderators but if it is possible, please remake a new photo of buses topic and close this existing topic.
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I wasn't angry in the first place (:
To shut his boastful trap up, you just had to do that, because PMs don't work. There are different ways to dealing with different people. Mind you, this isn't the first time he posted in such a boastful and egoistic tone with regards to Photography of Buses and pissed people off. I believe some people were pissed by his boastful tone and some have told me via PM so, just that they didn't react to stir this up, which isn't helping imo, because the problem isn't solved but ignored. It's just the first time I've reacted to his ridiculous posts.
An eye for an eye - he insults me, I take the liberty and insult him.
Let's see, if one was wrong, he wouldn't have anyone standing with him on his side, as simple as that. Not saying that I am right after all.
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Debate until the cows come home...
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Originally posted by n4l:
I wasn't angry in the first place (:
To shut his boastful trap up, you just had to do that, because PMs don't work. There are different ways to dealing with different people. Mind you, this isn't the first time he posted in such a boastful and egoistic tone with regards to Photography of Buses and pissed people off. I believe some people were pissed by his boastful tone and some have told me via PM so, just that they didn't react to stir this up, which isn't helping imo, because the problem isn't solved but ignored. It's just the first time I've reacted to his ridiculous posts.
An eye for an eye - he insults me, I take the liberty and insult him.
Let's see, if one was wrong, he wouldn't have anyone standing with him on his side, as simple as that. Not saying that I am right after all.
i do know that this isn't the first incident that happened in the photo of buses topic. i also do know that this isn't the first incident with regards to him making other bus fans angry but you can simply ignore his posts and not reply him. no need to follow the "an eye for an eye" theory, by you replying him and he replies back, it is childish to keep doing so, annoying to see and at the same time, he will tend to reply more. let nature takes its course. im sure something would be done eventually if he keeps on doing so.
i agree with what is said in bold.
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I'm just trying to say simply why people cant understand no flash is allowed.
Why i am so fed up with people flashing? I have even tried to flash some of my friends in buses, all felt it is so irritated to be shoot at with flash on. In fact, a number of drivers already don't like people to take photos of their bus. In worse situation, driver might even horn at you.
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haiz .... i just have to say being a bus fan isn't really about taking photos of buses , be yourself , do your own ways ,ignore crap from others , for some bus fans , the prefer taking photos of buses , but for others may not , maybe many do joyrides instead , but for those who are trying to take photos of buses due to peer pressure by other bus fans , give them a try ? it may not turn out good but it's a good learning process , like what Oceane said HK bus fans are so much better and enjoyable , their photos don't have porper sun light , just take for de sake of see-ing service and rego can le , why must it be everything nice nice? i'm a bus fan who hardly take photos of bus except sometimes i do night shots , i can say my photos isn't really good as long as i enjoy myself . It becomes stressful when you die die must take nice photos Being a bus fan i guess it's not about stress , just enjoy yourself and do what you want , other peopl's photo not nice ? don't bother , if you think you're going to post something negative , refrain from posting then , flame wars will occur ...
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edit....Can't be bothered to post about it already. simple_boi and n4l.
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From a photo being called useless and "you need flash shows that you're 100% noob" to how "advice" isn't listened to to stating that you're justwanting to say why people can't understand no flash is allowed
~I certainly love how statements can change within 1 day to make yourself seem innocent...
Of course, "You need flash shows that you're 100% noob" tells me that using a camera flash is irritating to you
~ Makes ALOT of sense yah. ~