[Photos Of Buses] January 2009
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this is photos of buses. not slam each other left right centre.
its PHOTOS not TEXT, like this
may this page be of more photos than text.
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Originally posted by n4l:
From a photo being called useless and "you need flash shows that you're 100% noob" to how "advice" isn't listened to to stating that you're justwanting to say why people can't understand no flash is allowed
~I certainly love how statements can change within 1 day to make yourself seem innocent...
Of course, "You need flash shows that you're 100% noob" tells me that using a camera flash is irritating to you
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Makes ALOT of sense yah. ~Actually from the safety point of view, it is best not to use flash on moving vehicles at night. I bet many of you have tried before, especially with cameras with strong flashes, the result could be similar to that of a flash bang, temporary blinding a person. Usual flashes will make you see colours. These will pose threats to road users.
Hope you see my point, and I don't take photographs of buses. -
Take it from a driver's perspective. You're in command of a 12 tonne vehicle in heavy traffic. A small car cuts infront of you but you don't realise because a tourist in a nearby park has taken a photo using a flash. The distraction was enough for the bus to run a red light and nearly rear-end the small car, which, had it not been for the good brakes of the bus, could have possibly killed the driver and passenger.
How do I know this? It's happened to someone I know, and similar circumstances have happened to me. DON'T USE YOUR FLASH! Drivers have enough distractions from passengers asking questions to rowdy school kids. They don't need another thing to make their job tougher. It is even worse at night because it can momentarily dazzle the driver, but the bightness of the flash also remains imprinted on the retina, making it hard to judge distances for a moment.
Again I say, PLEASE REFRAIN from FLASH PHOTOGRAPHY!
Thank you.
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Aiyo, the argument hasn't ceased ah? I'm just going to opine honestly on this matter.
Firstly, I think we've got to agree, and tackle the root cause of this argument - that is n4l snapped a photo using flash at night. I do agree that using flash at night, irregardless whether the bus is stationary or not, inflicts a degree of disturbance to the bus driver, though the extent of disturbance is subjective. So, n4l, please refrain from using your flash in the future. :) It might be so that you own a camera that is not the most ideal for taking night shots, but it's alright! Even if you don't use flash, and your photos turn out to be awful, its okay, you can learn from that experience and slowly improve. I don't judge the photographer by the quality of photos per se, but I judge the photographer by the genuine willingness to learn and improve. Having said that, I'd also like to appeal to the others to be more tolerating of mediocre photos, taken by budding photographers, as everyone, even the most professional photographers start from zilch. So, n4l, I hope this experience will not deter you from taking night shots and posting your pictures up. I'm sure a handful (though not all, sadly) of us will appreciate your effort, regardless how abysmal your photo can be. Just don't use your flash at night! All the best! :)
On a less amicable tone, I really think it is a shame that I see egoism, boastfulness and intolerance, at its best, in this forum. It is pretty apparent who is guilty of these sins, but I'm not going to censure the culprit, as he has a proven record of resembling a stubborn wooden block and epitomising a totally egoisitic bigot. So I'm going to be wise and not going waste my breath here. :)
On a parting note, I'd like to say, from a 3rd party point of view, its very obvious who is escalating the matter and who is more right. It is also quite known, for a fact, that those who criticise haughtily are likely to be those who feel very empty and insecure, so they have to boost their low self-worth by lashing out on others who are weaker in some aspects. How saddening! As the cliche proverb suggests, "Pride comes before a fall". :)
Cheers and peace out!
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I wish the parties involved would just shut up.
On an online forum, where your tone of voice cannot be easily identified, misunderstanding others is easy. I once also took a pic of TIB619Z with flash. After that, I boarded the bus and apologised to the driver. He said he didn't really mind, but others may. He also told me not to use flash again, because it can obstruct and distract drivers.
Flash photography should be avoided, even if it means missing a rare cameo or something. Accidents can happen, especially for inexperienced drivers.
Both parties are at fault, one for taking a pic with flash (hope you learn), one for acting like a stuck-up know it all. Nobody's Perfect, you know. We all just have to learn. Back in 2006, when I started posting pics, I was given quite a few pointers by other members, albeit in a nice and friendly tone. Now, flame wars are common, harsh tones and insults are tossed at each other.
What the hell happened to the bus enthusiast community?
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I shall post a really old pic, to add more pics in and so everyone can forget those arguments never happened.
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Please take the advices from other bus fans seriosuly. I dun want to keep reminding people all over again. Don't make this issue into a major controversy Now this problem is spreading like wildfire. If this go on, this thread will end up reaching 100 pages of wasteful posts and its very annoying. Well, if you are concern that your pix is very badly taken, then I suggest you do not post in this thread. Keep it to yourself.
Getting back to topic a little... (TIB716B on 970 taken yesterday)
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Am I one of the few people here who can see the views held by both parties? Yes both have over-reacted. One out of eagerness to be an enthusiast. The other in an effort to educate and reduce the impact on the reputation of all enthusiasts. I have seen that flash photography is prevalent. I have already outlined above what the potential impacts caused by flash photography. I only state this not to boast, but because I am one of the few people who have seen the community grow from only a group of 10-15
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Am I one of the few people here who can see the views held by both parties? Yes both have over-reacted. One out of eagerness to be an enthusiast. The other in an effort to educate and reduce the impact on the reputation of all enthusiasts. I have seen that flash photography is prevalent. I have already outlined above what the potential impacts caused by flash photography. I only state this not to boast, but because I am one of the few people who have seen the community grow from only a group of 10-15 people to about
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Originally posted by Windy_hates_B10TLs:
Am I one of the few people here who can see the views held by both parties? Yes both have over-reacted. One out of eagerness to be an enthusiast. The other in an effort to educate and reduce the impact on the reputation of all enthusiasts. I have seen that flash photography is prevalent. I have already outlined above what the potential impacts caused by flash photography. I only state this not to boast, but because I am one of the few people who have seen the community grow from only a group of 10-15 people to about
Errr... Hold on there.. This is a photo of buses thread nt a some kind of both parties thingy.. Thank you for ur cooperation.
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Am I one of the few people here who can see the views held by both parties? Yes both have over-reacted. One out of eagerness to be an enthusiast. The other in an effort to educate and reduce the impact on the reputation of all enthusiasts. I have seen that flash photography is prevalent. I have already outlined above what the potential impacts caused by flash photography. I only state this not to boast, but because I am one of the few people who have seen the community grow from only a group of 10-15 people to about 100 over people. One thing that I have kept first and foremost is the reputation of bus enthusiasts. The last thing that is needed is a news story in The Straits Times or on CNA saying that an accident was caused by an enthusiast taking a photo, or that an enthusiast was injured or killed while running in an interchange. Please understand that how you behave will reflect on all of us as a community.
(Can the mods please delete the 2 double posts I made further up the thread)
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Aiyoh.. i don really read fully.. But heyy.. this is not a photography forum.. go Clubsnap at the critic thread and post ur photos there. See what would people say ablout flashes..
Mod should add this rule: Those who are posting photos should accept possible comments and critics.
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Lets stop all this now shall we....i want to enjoy bus pictures already. :X
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Originally posted by Roderick a.k.a Guai Kia:
haiz .... i just have to say being a bus fan isn't really about taking photos of buses , be yourself , do your own ways ,ignore crap from others , for some bus fans , the prefer taking photos of buses , but for others may not , maybe many do joyrides instead , but for those who are trying to take photos of buses due to peer pressure by other bus fans , give them a try ? it may not turn out good but it's a good learning process , like what Oceane said HK bus fans are so much better and enjoyable , their photos don't have porper sun light , just take for de sake of see-ing service and rego can le , why must it be everything nice nice? i'm a bus fan who hardly take photos of bus except sometimes i do night shots , i can say my photos isn't really good as long as i enjoy myself . It becomes stressful when you die die must take nice photos Being a bus fan i guess it's not about stress , just enjoy yourself and do what you want , other peopl's photo not nice ? don't bother , if you think you're going to post something negative , refrain from posting then , flame wars will occur ...
I don't take picture of bus photos unless there is a rare cameo (e.g. SBS8030L on Express 502/502A).
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talk talk talk so much might as well dont post. send around your fellas you trust thru msn and save the trouble of getting rediculed in public.
Got see my photos here? Maybe yes... a few years ago.
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Okok. Let's make it to a stop.
SBS 2598 E on Sv143
SBS 9037 L on Sv88
SBS 9267 P on Sv132
TIB 1074 M on Sv61
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SBS3796T Breakdown
TIB376Z on 178
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Originally posted by tintinspartan:
SBS3796T Breakdown
TIB376Z on 178
May i know where is the location for the former pic
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lucky this vso comes in no time after i came out frm my hse.(9024Z block)
presenting... the mercz which cameoed like as if a perm.
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
May i know where is the location for the former pic
YMCA. Taken last weekend during an event. Spotted the bus breakdown by accident. Engine problem if i'm not wrong. Doing Sv 131 when it brokedown -
TIB908P on 167
SMB30Z on 167
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Originally posted by tintinspartan:
YMCA. Taken last weekend during an event. Spotted the bus breakdown by accident. Engine problem if i'm not wrong. Doing Sv 131 when it brokedownNoted......but bus got any damage by the accident?
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Originally posted by SBS n SMRT:
Noted......but bus got any damage by the accident?
I meant: I spotted the bus by accident.I'll forgive your error.
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SBS8381Z on 64
SMB67T on 700A
