SMRT Yutong bus - A discussion on China buses

• TIB1224Y

  13 Mar 09, 12:51

  What I observed on 1224...

  When the speed closes to 60 km/h, there is a rapid increase or RPM over the range from 2000 to 2200 RPM, the maximum governed speed the engine can run at, according to the tachometer. The 2000 to 2200 RPM comes about 55 to 60 km/h, when the RPM would increase to the maximum that the engine can be told to run. Not sure if this occurs to other Voiths as well.

• TIB930Z

  13 Mar 09, 18:51

  Voith : Climb hill (GOOD)

  ZF : Pick-up , acceleration (GOOD)

  what's the point of haviing a high RPM but pick-up, gear change is slow ?

  while ZF dosen't have much RPM as voith have but performs better than voith ? Singaporeans rush here rush there de, Voith is so not suitable on public transport in Singapore . Other Country Voith maybe can , one more thing Voith is smoother , Zf is kinda of jerky , you prefer save time or comfortable ?

• SMRT BUSES LuvER

  13 Mar 09, 19:22

  Hmm.. Which gearbox do u guys think tht will be installed on the Yutong?

  1. Voith
  2. ZF4HP500
  3. ZF6HP592C
  4. ZF6HP502C
  5. Allison

  Pls vote!

• TIB537B

  13 Mar 09, 20:57

  Originally posted by SMRT BUSES LuvER:

  Hmm.. Which gearbox do u guys think tht will be installed on the Yutong?

  1. Voith
  2. ZF4HP500
  3. ZF6HP592C
  4. ZF6HP502C
  5. Allison

  Pls vote!

  ZF 6 ba, or Voith. Allison unlikely.

• TIB958U

  13 Mar 09, 23:34

  Originally posted by SMRT BUSES LuvER:

  Hmm.. Which gearbox do u guys think tht will be installed on the Yutong?

  1. Voith
  2. ZF4HP500
  3. ZF6HP592C
  4. ZF6HP502C
  5. Allison

  Pls vote!

  
  If I'm not wrong, ZF4HP500 should be out of factory production now.

• AEW5001

  14 Mar 09, 00:11

  i reckon they will be going for a 6-gear auto gearbox.

• TIB930Z

  14 Mar 09, 12:55

  Originally posted by SMRT BUSES LuvER:

  Hmm.. Which gearbox do u guys think tht will be installed on the Yutong?

  1. Voith
  2. ZF4HP500
  3. ZF6HP592C
  4. ZF6HP502C
  5. Allison

  Pls vote!

  Allison is the best !

• Interception_7

  15 Mar 09, 12:12

  has the demonstrator arrived?

• SBS7484P

  15 Mar 09, 12:17

  its taking a long time to arrive..

• seyKai

  15 Mar 09, 12:20

  gearboxes from original manufacturers or under licence made in china?

  if made in china - bad choice

• TIB537B

  15 Mar 09, 12:59

  Originally posted by seyKai:

  gearboxes from original manufacturers or under licence made in china?

  if made in china - bad choice

  
  who knows. the buses e.g. Yutong seems pretty reliable, gearbox being licensed to be mfg in China should be ok ba.

  if cannot just swop with a compatible gearbox from the spares

• ^tamago^

  23 Mar 09, 22:59

  bump......
• jayh272416

  23 Mar 09, 23:43

  Originally posted by SBS7484P:

  its taking a long time to arrive..

  still riding ship here ah 

• TIB537B

  23 Mar 09, 23:53

  Originally posted by jayh272416:

  still riding ship here ah 

  
  maybe ship sank or got captured by pirates

• gorby107

  24 Mar 09, 08:42

  Taking many MIC buses here in Wuhan
  
  One word to say: Suspension is bad, it will bounce continously when it is travelling on bridges or uneven road
  
  Btw do they use leaf-spring(or spring-leaf) suspension or air suspension?

• TIB537B

  24 Mar 09, 09:21

  Originally posted by gorby107:

  Taking many MIC buses here in Wuhan
  
  One word to say: Suspension is bad, it will bounce continously when it is travelling on bridges or uneven road
  
  Btw do they use leaf-spring(or spring-leaf) suspension or air suspension?

  
  Most likely air suspensions for the more modern buses and coaches like Yutong and King Long.Can't imagine that they are still using leaf spring for their new buses right now (the retiring UDs, anyone? :D) . Are the buses in Wuhan the modern type or the older type?

• Basiling

  24 Mar 09, 09:33

  Originally posted by TIB537B:

  
  Most likely air suspensions for the more modern buses and coaches like Yutong and King Long.Can't imagine that they are still using leaf spring for their new buses right now (the retiring UDs, anyone? :D) . Are the buses in Wuhan the modern type or the older type?

  ......Ha, you are wrong. Most new buses in Shenzhen are using leaf spring.......=,,=" , as i know Buses on Rt.59 in Shenzhen are using air suspensions, others are using leaf spring.

  As i know the new buses in Shanghai and beijing are air suspensions, the Suspension is similar to EU buses

  Beijing bus ride

  http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=628F4DECF748C716

  Shenzhen bus ride

  http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0B648EFFFEF06CD7

   

• TIB1234T

  24 Mar 09, 09:39

  Originally posted by Basiling:

  ......Ha, you are wrong. Most new buses in Shenzhen are using leaf spring.......=,,=" , as i know Buses on Rt.59 in Shenzhen are using air suspensions, others are using leaf spring.

  As i know the new buses in Shanghai and beijing are air suspensions, the Suspension is similar to EU buses

  Beijing bus ride

  http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=628F4DECF748C716

  Shenzhen bus ride

  http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0B648EFFFEF06CD7

   

  
  Sian..... But ok lar. A brother of UDs.

• TIB537B

  24 Mar 09, 10:05

  Originally posted by Basiling:

  ......Ha, you are wrong. Most new buses in Shenzhen are using leaf spring.......=,,=" , as i know Buses on Rt.59 in Shenzhen are using air suspensions, others are using leaf spring.

  As i know the new buses in Shanghai and beijing are air suspensions, the Suspension is similar to EU buses

  Beijing bus ride

  http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=628F4DECF748C716

  Shenzhen bus ride

  http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0B648EFFFEF06CD7

   

  
  er...

  guess i should have mentioned the capital beijing in my previous post. lol.

• sexy girls

  24 Mar 09, 16:20

  My Higer tour coach in Shanghai uses leaf-spring suspension. The bus will bounce continuously when travelling on uneven roads. Very uncomfortable

• .SBS9888Y.

  24 Mar 09, 16:26

  Originally posted by gorby107:

  Taking many MIC buses here in Wuhan
  
  One word to say: Suspension is bad, it will bounce continously when it is travelling on bridges or uneven road
  
  Btw do they use leaf-spring(or spring-leaf) suspension or air suspension?

  for all you know there's some cheena gearbox that goes with it.

  with cheena, its all about cheena.

  cheena ftw.

• Stage

  24 Mar 09, 19:32

  Originally posted by .SBS9888Y.:

  for all you know there's some cheena gearbox that goes with it.

  with cheena, its all about cheena.

  cheena ftw.

  
  

• XiaoTaro

  24 Mar 09, 19:51

  Originally posted by TIB537B:

  
  Most likely air suspensions for the more modern buses and coaches like Yutong and King Long.Can't imagine that they are still using leaf spring for their new buses right now (the retiring UDs, anyone? :D) . Are the buses in Wuhan the modern type or the older type?

  Most of the King Long coaches here in sg are still using leaf springs, and it does really bounce continuously when travelling on the expressways here.

  The only good thing is that the shock absorbers seems to be doing a pretty good job compared to the UDs.

• jayh272416

  24 Mar 09, 19:52

  Originally posted by .SBS9888Y.:

  for all you know there's some cheena gearbox that goes with it.

  with cheena, its all about cheena.

  cheena ftw.

  is that sarcasm 

• TIB537B

  24 Mar 09, 19:57

  Originally posted by .SBS9888Y.:

  for all you know there's some cheena gearbox that goes with it.

  with cheena, its all about cheena.

  cheena ftw.

  
  ...the seats MIC not from VogelSitze?

  ...the aircon MIC not from Hispacold/Konvekta?

  ...the EDS MIC (Coolair) and not from LAWO/Transit Media/Hanover?

  ...the engine MIC and not Cummins?

  wow can't wait for this bus!